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Hallo Homins,

ich möchte euch die neue Version der Ruhm-Übersicht ankündigen. Die aktuelle Version kommt mit einigen Veränderungen und Erweiterungen, sowohl sichtbar als auch im Hintergrund, die es erlauben, dass die App in zukünftigen Versionen noch mehr leisten kann.

Du kannst die Ruhm-Übersicht aus App Zone heraus installieren oder mit durch Ausführen des Befehls /appzone 2132. Damit es läuft, musst du zuerst einen gültigen API Key hinterlegen, und dann kann es dann auch wirklich losgehen ...


Was hat sich in der Benutzung geändert?

Die Liste der NPC Homin wurde drastisch erweitert und umfasst nun fast alle Haupt-Charaktere auf Atys. Die Liste ist aber weiterhin noch nicht vollständig, und auch eine Ruhmes Voraussetzungen könnten noch falsch sein. Falls ihr einen fehlenden NPC Homin, der Missionen ausgibt, oder fehlerhafte Ruhmes-Voraussetzungen entdeckt habt, dann sagt es uns bitte. Wir sind allen Hinweisen dankbar.

Einige werden nun einwenden, dass die Listen je Stamm/Nation/Höherer Macht zu lang sind. Ja, dass sind sie. Dies ist nur der Anfang, eine Verbesserung ist in Planung. Der Plan schließt auch ein, die Liste noch zu erweitern und die Art von Interaktionen mit aufzunehmen, so dass man dann schlussendlich NPC gezielt suchen kann, in Abhängigkeit der Art der Interaktion, der Missionen und des Einflusses auf den Ruhm.

Die Ansichten für die Zivilisationen und Höheren Mächte sind nun ähnlich zu denen der Stämme: Es werden alle bewohnten Orte und alle dortigen NPC Homins gelistet, von denen einige die Gefolgschaft benötigen. Damit dieses auch berücksichtigt werden kann, benötigt die Ruhm-Übersicht nun auch einen API Key, der den Abschnitt C01 enthält. Falls der bestehende Schlüssel diesen noch nicht enthält, fragt die App nach einem (neuen) Schlüssel der es mit enthält, bevor man sie weiter nutzen werden kann.

Das es eine Vielzahl an NPC Homins gibt, kann man sich diese nun auch in verschiedenen Kategorien anzeigen lassen, nach Typ, Titel und Ort und darüber zu den Informationen über den NPC gelangen. Auch ist es nun möglich NPC Homins anhand ihres Namens zu suchen.

Eine weitere Neuerung betrifft den Service von New Horizons. In einer Tabelle sind die einzelnen Leistungen aufgeführt auf Basis deines aktuellen Ruhms und eine andere Tabelle zeigt, welche Werte des Ruhms zu welchen Änderungen in den Leistungen führen.

Daneben wurden einige bekannte Fehler und Probleme behoben, insbesondere ein besseres IG Aussehen sowie fehlerhafte Übersetzungen, sowie weitere Änderungen, welche die Bedienung erleichtern sollen.

Was hat sich im Hintergrund geändert?

Es gibt eine Maske um NPC zu verwalten und den benötigten Ruhm zu setzen. Es ist noch nicht ganz ausgereift und benötigt weiteren Feinschliff (verschiedene Aktionen mit einer Person könnten verschiedenen Ruhm voraussetzen), allerdings kann es verwendet werden um eine prinzipielle Idee des benötigten Ruhms/Gefolgschaft zu vermitteln.

Es wurden einige Änderungen vorgenommen, um die verschiedenen Apps besser zu vernetzen. Die Stammeslager werden nun in der gleichen Datenbank gespeichert wie die Gildenhallen und Orte von Atys. In Analogie zu den Beziehungen zwischen Gilden, ob Freund oder Feind, ist es programmatisch auch möglich solche Beziehungen zwischen Stämmen und bald auch zwischen Stämmen und Gilden zu setzen, da sie auf die gleiche Datenbank zugreifen. Letzteres wird freigegeben, sobald die Beziehungen zwischen Stämmen veröffentlicht sind.

Die Übersetzung dieses Textes hat dankenswerterweise Gaperila geliefert.

Edited 6 times | Last edited by Moniq (3 years ago)

#17 [en] 

Looks good, nice upgrade.  Love the ability to turn off the columns .  Thank you.

I only played with it a few minutes, but is there any way to see max fame as a number ?

If we can provide any additional assistance in filling out the NPC tables, give a yell.  Or if you are going to expand, to include things like for each NPC:

Busted Missions
Impossible Missions (or nearly)
Craft Missions w/ mats neeeds (so ya can go prepared)
Kill Missions
etc.

... would be glad to provide the info collected to date.

Last edited by Fyrosfreddy (3 years ago)

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#18 [en] 

Fyrosfreddy
I only played with it a few minutes, but is there any way to see max fame as a number ?
You mean your maximal fame with current allegiance? No, those data are missing yet. Do you have any details about what maximal fame is allowed by all combinations of allegiance?

Fyrosfreddy
If we can provide any additional assistance in filling out the NPC tables, give a yell.
Let me know if you meet any NPC with name and title not being in database.

Fyrosfreddy
Or if you are going to expand, to include things like for each NPC:

Busted Missions
Impossible Missions (or nearly)
Craft Missions w/ mats neeeds (so ya can go prepared)
Kill Missions
etc.

... would be glad to provide the info collected to date.
Besides some changes i did for next release, one of future steps will be database of skills (i need it to identify what is user possible to do) and then database of interactions for each NPC. One of interactions will be missions, ie we will have to add every regular mission to every NPC including required fame, level, earned dappers, cooldown, if broken and fame change (small/medium/big rise/lost to every affected fame). With that we will need help, because EVERY mission will have to be done at least once. Including rites and sage. But wait for more precise instructions and I am sure it will be devided into more steps.

Last edited by Moniq (3 years ago) | Reason: minor improvement

#19 [en] 

Moniq
You mean your maximal fame with current allegiance? No, those data are missing yet. Do you have any details about what maximal fame is allowed by all combinations of allegiance?

It's in the game as a white bar on the fame window, tough part i guess is finding it in the game code :) ... I bet Karu knows where it is.
Moniq
Let me know if you meet any NPC with name and title not being in database.

The spreadsheet file I sent you for the Bunny Fame Tool .... not part of IG Tools, (this was started in 2007 - 08 era and updated as we have found more NPCs) has all the known ones I believe.   All the ones added since BT 3.0 was released (about a dozen) are shown in blue text here.

https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/177916

Moniq
Besides some changes i did for next release, one of future steps will be database of skills (i need it to identify what is user possible to do) and then database of interactions for each NPC. One of interactions will be missions, ie we will have to add every regular mission to every NPC including required fame, level, earned dappers, cooldown, if broken and fame change (small/medium/big rise/lost to every affected fame). With that we will need help, because EVERY mission will have to be done at least once. Including rites and sage. But wait for more precise instructions and I am sure it will be devided into more steps.

We have many of these recorded, tho many missions were just ignored... for example, those requiring "go find mission mats", we just figured no one was going to invest the T & E.   Our efforts to date have focused on recording:

Busted Missions  - Those that can't be done say "Go target Mob of  a level that does not exist" and therefore can not be done.

Broken Missions - Those that say "Go craft 7 of these and hand in" and the timer gives you 90 seconds to complete.

Kill and Craft Missions that can be quickly done without unreasonable difficulty or time investment.

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#20 [en] 

Fyrosfreddy
Moniq
You mean your maximal fame with current allegiance? No, those data are missing yet. Do you have any details about what maximal fame is allowed by all combinations of allegiance?

It's in the game as a white bar on the fame window, tough part i guess is finding it in the game code :) ... I bet Karu knows where it is.

Yes, I know. Do you have those numbers? Or can you get it? :) I am currently busy with other things, but I plan to add this, maybe as part of future changes related to real marauder fame.


Fyrosfreddy
Moniq
Let me know if you meet any NPC with name and title not being in database.

The spreadsheet file I sent you for the Bunny Fame Tool .... not part of IG Tools, (this was started in 2007 - 08 era and updated as we have found more NPCs) has all the known ones I believe.   All the ones added since BT 3.0 was released (about a dozen) are shown in blue text here.

https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/177916

Hm, I am not sure about the image, I have similar and we have all in + some more. Gaperila can tell you more, she works hard on NPC list.


Fyrosfreddy
Moniq
Besides some changes i did for next release, one of future steps will be database of skills (i need it to identify what is user possible to do) and then database of interactions for each NPC. One of interactions will be missions, ie we will have to add every regular mission to every NPC including required fame, level, earned dappers, cooldown, if broken and fame change (small/medium/big rise/lost to every affected fame). With that we will need help, because EVERY mission will have to be done at least once. Including rites and sage. But wait for more precise instructions and I am sure it will be devided into more steps.

We have many of these recorded, tho many missions were just ignored... for example, those requiring "go find mission mats", we just figured no one was going to invest the T & E.   Our efforts to date have focused on recording:

Busted Missions  - Those that can't be done say "Go target Mob of  a level that does not exist" and therefore can not be done.

Broken Missions - Those that say "Go craft 7 of these and hand in" and the timer gives you 90 seconds to complete.

Kill and Craft Missions that can be quickly done without unreasonable difficulty or time investment.

My main interrest is fame. Every mission should be added and have set requirements. The goal is to allow you find all missions you can currently do with your fame, skill levels and allegiance. And filter.

Example: I want rise/lower fame with Company of the Eternal Tree but not affect (keep) my fame with kami/kara/Kuilde/Zorai and exclude missions with killing homins.

But I also want to inform user if he can trade with a merchant or use a service.

List of broken missions would be also very useful :)

#21 [en] 

These are some amazing ideas! Can't wait to test them and optimize my fame grind.

arc

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#22 [en] 

génial, mais curieusement j'ai toujours le message de log : #0: ERROR! Impossible de sauver vos paramètres.

je suis sur Mac, j'ai regénéré mes clefs API, une idée d'où ca peut venir ?

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#23 [en] 

Iwakura
génial, mais curieusement j'ai toujours le message de log : #0: ERROR! Impossible de sauver vos paramètres.

je suis sur Mac, j'ai regénéré mes clefs API, une idée d'où ca peut venir ?

Hm, using older version? If you try do the operation at [0] (link to stable version everyone should use), does it work? Because working for me.

[0] http://beta.kdyne.net/rygreg/STABLE/fameapp/

#24 [en] 

same troubles, info gets are good that's enough
i think it tries to write something local and OsX refuse

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#25 [en] 

A webapp is just a homepage, which can set cookies at maximum. No local access allowed for javascript or any server side language.

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#26 [en] 

Your OS should not be important, however i saw combination of platform and browser sending strange data.

Ok, can you send me an izam and describe exactly which details you wish to insert?

If you try to edit your guild details by this character, hope you know you are not allowed. You have to be the leader or leader has to allow you in member settings.

Last edited by Moniq (3 years ago) | Reason: extended

#27 [en] 

I have the same problem too. I can however use it in a webbrowser. IG it gives me the same notification, something like " your data can't be saved" .

This happend the first time i was trying to use this app IG. Don't know if it was fixed by using the app in a browser after that... I should check the next time i log in...

#28 [en] 

happy not to be alone ;)
app ig or web is the same, i done many tries but no idea of the reason why?

Version du système : macOS 10.12.5 (16F73)
Version du noyau : Darwin 16.6.0
Volume de démarrage : Macintosh HD

I use RyzomClient :
Patch 3.2.1 8925

Sometimes (1 /10) it crashes and i see all INSERT("xxxx","xxxx") commands (i refresh and it works again)

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#29 [en] 

Iwakura
Sometimes (1 /10) it crashes and i see all INSERT("xxxx","xxxx") commands (i refresh and it works again)

Sounds like something related to a database (SQL?), probably an internal problem of the app and not your system.

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#30 [en] 

Are you both using MAC client?
Does the problem occur only with a specific action or while sending random forms?
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