#76 Добавлено Anastase 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
The Karavan hope to save the homins who have been fooled by the lies of Ma-Duk. They try to make them see the error of their ways and lead them out of the shadows, so they may return to the light of Jena. But there are some who do not want to be saved, and who do everything they can to drag other homins to their downfall. In such cases, a confrontation is inevitable.http://ballisticmystix.net/?p=karavan_temple
The Karavan homins raise a quandary for the Kamis. These disciples of Ma-Duk would prefer to convert the homins rather than punish them, but they cannot do so by force. Those that have chosen to follow the dark ways of Jena seek to attract other homins into the shadows, and the Kamis will never allow this.http://ballisticmystix.net/?p=kami_sanctuary
* Consolidate and extend their influence over homins* Oppose the Kamis and prevent the worship of Elias Tryton from spreadinghttp://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_Karavan
* Recruit Homins to their cause* Oppose the Karavanhttp://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_Kami
What are our goals?* fight against the Karavan to impose a new order around Kami worship* consolidate and conquer more territory.Who are our friends?* Matis: The Matis are our inherent enemy not to be trusted. We do not adhere to the Matis sense of justice which centers around the monarchy and Jena Law. Even in these times of peace we must stand vigil lest they team up against us. http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_BeingFyrosHow they see the MatisThe Fyros ceaselessly endeavored to keep the conquering Matis in check in the old lands. And Matis attempts to spread their religion often led to skirmishes, especially when the Fyros began to break away from Karavan influence. The Fyros never could abide the Matis sense of justice centered around the monarchy and Karavan Law. Conflicts with the Matis lasted over 200 years coming to a head when the Matis perfidiously took the city of Karavia during the Fire of Coriolis, and made an attempt to extend their dominions to Tryker lands and so deprive the Fyros of water supplies. The subsequent treaty of Karavia brought with it a time of peace throughout the lands until the terrible kitin onslaughts of 2481.Despite the present state of peace, various incidents in the recent past such as frontier skirmishes in 2506, or Matis persecution of Fyros in forest lands in 2508, have kept the Fyros thinking that the Matis are still the same dangerous snakes as before.http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_FyrosCivilisation
Who are our friends?Since the Peace Treaty signed at Fairhaven in 2515, we have been at peace with the other homin peoples. But ten years of peace could never erase the scars of past infamy. Indeed our relations vary depending on the civilization. * Zoraï: The Zoraïs are infidels and their paganism ought to be checked. Even so, it was a Zoraï warrior who saved the present king. With all due respects, many of us resent this 'debt' to the Zoraïs which tarnishes our credibility in the eyes of the Karavan. It is preferable that this does not happen again.* Fyros: The Fyros are our inherent enemy who, over the past 44 years, have moved closer and closer to the evil Kamis. We mustn't forget that in the past they have succeeded in coaxing the Trykers to side with them against us. But the Fyros now prefer to side with the Zoraïs whose love for the Kami demon they share. However, we must remain vigilant that they don't try to convert the Trykers with their blasphemous talk.http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_BeingMatisHow they see the FyrosThe Fyros are the inherent enemy of the Matis. In the old lands Dyros the Great, the Fyros Emperor, secured a water route from the lake lands to the desert through Matis territory. This 'intrusion' on Matis territory triggered the start of the war of civilizations. The intermittent skirmishes went on for over two hundred years coming to a head with the Fire of Coriolis. A peace treaty signed at Karavia brought with it a period of relative peace despite discord over Fyros placing national interests above Karavan Law.The skirmishes that were rife during the reign of Jinovitch have given place to relative peace with the Fairhavan Peace Treaty signed in 2515 by the present Matis King, Yrkanis. Nevertheless, the Fyros moving ever closer to the Kamis has given rise to much agitation within the Matis court many of whom call for a firmer stand against Pyr and their policy of Kami proliferation.http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_MatisCivilisation
#77 Добавлено Salazar 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
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#78 Добавлено Zhoi 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
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#79 Добавлено Icus 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
#80 Добавлено Anastase 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
Aaaah, yes, of course: "opposing" the Karavan of course means attacking and slaughtering their followers!
I have to voice this again: a number of players just wants to do whatever they please
Our server histories are no anchor anymore. The only anchor left is the Lore, which has pretty much the potential for conflict, although not the need for open War. But if we are all in for a cuddle party, with "peace" signs als over the place, with sit-ins and sex, drugs, and Rock'n Roll (without sex and drugs because of the age rules), we don't need the lore anymore, or any background story actually, and that would be, indeed, the death of RP on Atys.
#81 Добавлено Salazar 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
I agree totally with you Salazar.Playing a peace-keeper takes a lot of involvement and courage currently with few reward. But I want for the story to move and I've read more books and seen more movies where the story moved because of some conflict than through peaceful daily routine.
#82 Добавлено Fakuang 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
"Melinda, I love you.-Ho, what a surprise. I don't know anything about you, but I love you too. Do you want marry me ?-Ho, yes !-Ok. And now ?"*see the clock*"hem... porn ?-Yes, porn."
#83 Добавлено Gidget 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
Well, according to that description of extremes I'm supposedly sitting between chairs. I do enjoy a bit of conflict, for without any conflict, without contradiction of opinion all what is left - especially in politics - is a bore; it's like your whole life in RP is forever trapped in an endless circle of small talk - which I even loathe in real life, to be honest. On the other hand I try to take in that other people might be affected in one way or the other. But at least of the politicians in game I expect both the ability to seperate IG and OOC, and to take in a somewhat rougher handling, so to say - as I expect politicians in RL to deal with animosity and conflict, for one should not stay in the kitchen if one can't stand the heat. So I really don't mind if Binarabi verbally attacks Matis as a rule, or if Rikutatis takes a more subtle method to undermine our standing. Salazar will remember, and most likely will pay back debts if he sees fit. ;)In both cases I don't see the need to deny help to someone who asks for it. That's more a matter of manners and common sense for me than of politics and conflict.
What we value most?To be a true Tryker, you gotta live by the virtues of freedom, equality and sharing:Freedom: Consider all homins responsible and free of their acts. Any homin violating the freedom of another will be in breach of the Homin Rights Act, which as it happens, was first drawn up by the Tryker Council.Equality: Every homin has an equal right to walk the land, to obtain instruction, to harvest the natural resources, to choose their own destiny, as long as they don't encroach on other homin rights.[p]Sharing: We believe that our force lies in our solidarity and that solidarity is borne from sharing. If we could persuade all Jena's children to be like us Trykers the world would be a safer place!
Freedom: Consider all homins responsible and free of their acts. Any homin violating the freedom of another will be in breach of the Homin Rights Act, which as it happens, was first drawn up by the Tryker Council.
Equality: Every homin has an equal right to walk the land, to obtain instruction, to harvest the natural resources, to choose their own destiny, as long as they don't encroach on other homin rights.
Note that nowhere in there does it say that we have to be peaceful about it, nor is there any prohibition against conflict.
#84 Добавлено Nuzanshi 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
#85 Добавлено Salazar 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
If a non/light-RP player whose character was of an opposing faction needed help, would you let RP take precedence over keeping Atys friendly to those who see Ryzom as a game rather than an interactive story? Would you be willing to break character to help them, or would you "stick to your guns" at the risk of causing OOC resentment?
Also with good reason we all want to keep those on board who doesn't care for the RP at all, but love the game, don't we? So I have no problem resurrecting an "enemy" calling for help in the Universe or Region channels, which are OOC anyway, or with joining in a mixed boss hunt, which I also don't take really seriously (...)
One nice thing about being a Tryker is that RP-ing a proper Tryker pretty much requires OOC decency (...)
2497: Trykers breach Edict of Four Peoples and sign a preferential trade agreement with Fyros, depriving Matis peoples of water supplies. Trykers refuse to renew lease of Lagoons of Loria.
#86 Добавлено Gidget 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
I think I already answered that, didn't I? See here:Salazar (atys)Also with good reason we all want to keep those on board who doesn't care for the RP at all, but love the game, don't we? So I have no problem resurrecting an "enemy" calling for help in the Universe or Region channels, which are OOC anyway, or with joining in a mixed boss hunt, which I also don't take really seriously (...)
#87 Добавлено Talkirc 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.
#88 Добавлено Placio 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
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#89 Добавлено Gidget 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
@Talk I think if you are ooc, or have a problem with being attacked for any reason you just don't tag, right?
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#90 Добавлено Placio 9 лет назад Доклад | Цитировать
Not all attacks involve loss of HP though; words can be weapons too.
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