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#181 [fr] 

"blackburn trade post" did not trigger after several saves in the area.
"woodburn magic pole" did not trigger after several saves.
"woodburn stronghold" did not trigger after a few saves.
"whirling stronghold" did not trigger after several saves
"eastshore magic pole" does not trigger after a few saves.

please check triggers.

Last edited by Kemen (1 decade ago)

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Remickla (atys)
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#182 [en] 

I never had problems with Outposts
Only with areas that are on or close to the border between 2 regions - I can say with confidence that all outposts in the desert triggered for me.

On that note: "The Cursed Cavern" in the Land of Continuity didn't trigger for me even if I moved to the other region (still staying in the cursed cavern though)

And while I was trying to trigger some exotic regions together with other people they noticed that the outposts are not translated yet so please include the translations from english for all outpost names as well.

And while I'm writing a small suggestion (if at all possible with this weird "trigger on save" system)
Create law enforcement achievements for killing bandits, please.

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#183 [en] 

pei-ruz works, but you have to teleport to the 'hidden area' (its wont trigger in HoP)

#184 [en] 

Dinorath (atys)
pei-ruz works, but you have to teleport to the 'hidden area' (its wont trigger in HoP)

then the trigger is wrong since only the secret camp (in void) should require the porting..

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#185 [en] 

Jarnys (atys)
Dinorath (atys)
pei-ruz works, but you have to teleport to the 'hidden area' (its wont trigger in HoP)

then the trigger is wrong since only the secret camp (in void) should require the porting..

yep, it was

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#186 [en] 

Karu, can you please verify if the achievements are working? Just tried 2 new spots and it didnt compute... I remember Cotare saying that sometimes it stopped for some reason...

Thanks

#187 [en] 

Dinorath (atys)
Karu, can you please verify if the achievements are working? Just tried 2 new spots and it didnt compute..
yeah, API is not updating either and thats a good sign that its stuck.

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#188 [en] 

Just a headsup to anyone doing it, sometimes it is taking many saves to trigger the achievement, so, don't give up! :)

#189 [en] 

thanks Dino for noting on multi-saves, after my xp with exploration of the different zones i learned then that at least 2 saves minimum to get credit, and i use a minimum of 3 saves as my personal minimum, with as many as 8 saves to attempt to get the trigger before giving up and moving on to the next location to stand around and wait.

a few days of treking and waiting (again in some cases) and still no triggers for the following locations. after wasting between 24 minutes (3 saves) and 64 minutes (8 saves) i'm still not getting credit for the below locations, please check the triggers (and/or trigger them for me, it is a real pain to trek and wait on a save, refresh the achievements, wait for another save, refresh the achievements, wait for another save, refresh the achievements again, wait for yet another save, refresh the achievements, wait for another save yet again, refresh the achievements again, wait..... i think you get the point) it's broken, please fix it. (just a thought: a button on the achievements for explorations that would force the checking of the current x,y at that moment and then trigger IF in the correct zone would very likely solve this problem.)

"blackburn trade post" still did not trigger after several saves.
"woodburn magic pole" still did not trigger after several saves.
"woodburn stronghold" still did not trigger after a few saves.
(because those not triggering it's preventing me from completing the desert player owned op achievement.)

"whirling stronghold" still did not trigger after several saves.
"twintops workshop" did not trigger after several saves.
"windyway workshop" did not trigger after several saves.
(because those are not triggering it's preventing me from completing the lakes player owned OP achievenment.)

below are all found in a forced pvp zone, making them very unsafe to stand around and wait, but again i waited long enough for at least 3 saves in each of the following zones:

"Destiny's end diplomatic outpost" does not trigger after several saves.
"ichorgate research center" does not trigger after several saves.
"hammer hills trade post" does not trigger after several saves.
(watchcomb workshop triggered on the first save, which leads me to believe that the triggers are not all working)
"wastegate border post" does not trigger after several saves.
(because these are not triggering i'm not getting the points for all of "defeat in the nexus", and that's anything but good in a forced PvP zone)

(nexusgate stronghold triggered on the first save)
(west saprun research center triggered on the first save)
(east saprun workshop triggered on the first save)

EDIT: went back to nexus after all of AoI triggered on the first save, the triggers are indeed broken, after several saves in different spots within the area of "ichorgate research center" i decided to move as close to the marker as i thought i could get, at 3m no trigger, moved to 2m and no trigger, moved to 1m and no trigger, moved around a bit until the compass said 0 m and once it saved it triggered, the triggers are indeed broken, and need to be checked.

Last edited by Talkirc (1 decade ago) | Reason: confirmed that triggers are broken, and explained how they are broken in the "EDIT:"

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#190 [en] 

triggers for OP's and broken OP's are indeed in need of checking, some ONLY trigger if you are at 0 m (zero meters) on the compass, the trigger area needs to be fixed to the exact area matching the message on screen that says "you have entered......." much like the region exploration had to be fixed.

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#191 [en] 

I tought about moving, trying to find a better spot, but it seems thats not the problem Talk.

I spent 3h on Greenpool Workshop yesterday, and it didnt trigger. I went to bed and woke up this morning and it was OK. No movement needed.

Maybe moving helps? I don't know, its rly weird....

#192 [en] 

I'm trying to find the cause of this.

short version: achievements are not counted on char save.

long version: TBD

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#193 [en] 

karu, the way cotare explained it to me, the triggers for these are checked based on the last position of your toon at the time of a save, as that's the only way (he said at that time, things could be different now) that a location can be verified, however, i've gotten all but one broken OP in nexus to trigger now after hours of moving a little, sadly i'm now only one broken OP away from another 10 points.

dino, i would go afk but this is 1) a forced pvp zone, and someone would take advantage regardless of afk tag or not. and 2) is close enough to a boss spawn point that it could be considered camping, regardless of the fact that i spend hours and sometimes days afk, and prefer to hunt my prey via treking around.

Edit:
it's very late for me at this point, i've not slept in about 20 hours, so i'm going to trek to the nearest tp and wait it out till i wake back up, then i'll continue to try for the last broken op in nexus, then move back to the player owned op's for a third attempt to get the last of those i need done. (outside of forest that is, that will be the last one i do, that place is hell on atys)

Last edited by Talkirc (1 decade ago) | Reason: see "edit:"

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#194 [en] 

ok, waited in blackburn trade post for the time it took me to re-read the entire 193 post's on this topic, 7 saves later and still no trigger. (closest you can get to marker on map is 1m)

also was looking over all the different achievements, the "that's mine now" is impossible to complete, there are NO known items on the server that are of this Q, i've asked many players time and time again, since merger nothing like that has been offered other then sap crystals (which should count IF there are points given for the achievement), i'd like to suggest that this achievement be moved to heroic deeds, unless there's some secret that everyone's withholding about a special craft skill, or special secret boss that only the csr's can kill i'd like to see this counted as a "heroic deed" with no yubo points.

also, please post an update as to when the OP and broken OP triggers are fixed, after the last few days getting any triggers even after countless saves is getting no where (i did get a few to trigger, but only after getting my compass to say i was 0 m (zero meters) away from the marker on the map)

collecting yubo points is a nice brake from the normal day to day play (fame runs, grinding skills, hunting)

following this post i'll start to use both this forum post, and file tickets (perhaps the csr's will do as cortare did in the past and just trigger them if they can be proven, which a csr can do on the spot, they can tp to you, see where you are, and trigger, problem solved for the player in question on the spot.) (I also plan to provide screen shot's at each of these locations in question, where you can clearly ready my system info tab that will say "you have entered xxxx" and then followed by a "talkirc has been saved." at which point i would like the trigger done, i'm getting a little bored with having to do the same thing over and over with NO reward yet.)

after all, exploration is one of the easy yubo points to collect, unless your collecting them in forest or a few spots in lakes, lolx.

anyway, i'll just throw in the towel here at blackburn trade post (after typing all this i'm up to 9 saves and still no trigger, after proofreading and then adding more)

also, it would be nice to see the DP achievement come back, (i never did understand how it was not working correctly, as it was one of the few i thought was right every time)

(another save just done..... still NO trigger {that's 80 minutes in one spot this is absurdly long time for something to trigger})

EDIT: woodburn magic pole triggers on the first save. woodburn stronghold triggered on first save this time as well. with the luck of those two triggering on the first try, i went back to blackburn trade post and on the first save it triggered.

Edited 3 times | Last edited by Talkirc (1 decade ago) | Reason: see "edit:"

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Remickla (atys)
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#195 [en] 

whirling stronghold, 3 saves this time around, still no trigger.

Edit:
i honestly believe that a button added to the achievements that would do a forced check of the current x and y location of the players toon would fix this issue, if it's not the save's that are checked, as cotare explained to me in the past, then it's a random thing, that should a) be documented exactly how often it's checked. or b) have the button option (with a 60 second cool-down if someone's afriad that button would crash the server) this current system is very flawed it seams, because it will work for one player, but not another, sometimes wasting hours waiting for a single trigger isn't an option, i don't want to stand in a dangerous place for hours waiting because i have to watch the screen the whole time to ensure i don't get aggro dragged or killed by another player because i'm in a forced pvp zone.

btw, there's been 5 more saves on this return trip to whirling stronghold, still no trigger.

Last edited by Talkirc (1 decade ago) | Reason: see "edit:"

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