IDEEN FÜR RYZOM

On Arispotle I ran a HA Mats Bank. I put all my HA mats in GH (Sup Tama, Glue, Irin, Silverweed) that I dug. As peeps collected their mats, they could put 260 mats from that list in any combination and I would make up what they were missing. At any given time, there was always 5 or 6 sets in Apt and always cupla thousand mats in GH.

I understand your examples, but how many peeps ever found themselves in a position to make 10 saets in one sitting ? I have not heard of any such game imposed deadlines. Why must you craft in apartment ? These ar all "self imposed" limits, not game limits.

I don't really use vendor storage. I keep a mektoub near a hawker in all 4 above ground regions. I dig a bag / mek full of mats, I craft off the mats and put HA on vendors.... . Rinse and repeat just one time and I got 12. Not really a problem. I know other peeps that store 10k mats on vendors, then stand at stables and craft....thats 46 sets of HA.

one thing i can say freddy, your teaching me ways to get what i want without getting what i want, and i like that, if others looking for what i want read what you and other's have told me, they'll also find the ways to get what they wanted as well, so while i keep saying things on this, and hopping to one day get it, i'm learning ways to do just what i want to do without ever getting it, so while it hopeless to want this upgrade, it's not hopeless to find ways to do just the things i want.

Yes, that's why I think you will see support from new players but the vets ill be wishy washy cuz they have figured other, many times more convenient ways, to do same thing.

..... There are more than a few ways to skin a varynx

well after we skin the cat, are we making taco's? (yummy! varnix taco's)

This, like the one for the Guild Hall is important. Sometime 4 Mektoubs and an Apt just not enough.

still would like to see this added, using the merchaint fails to fix this, u must continually re-buy everything, and it's useless for gear because you cant sell used items. also, there are players that will buy you stuff even when you ONLY wanted to store it.

i still see no reason we cant have this. i'm still waiting for one, IF there is one.

Many of the alts and guilds (and their GHs) exist solely for storage because we don't have enough space. And being in a guild with ~150 people makes it worse as we have a lot more need for space than a 20-toon guild.

Space is a *SERIOUS* issue, and the constant logging and shuffling, and creating alts just to have storage not only inconveniences the players, but probably isn't exactly kind to the servers either.

We already have ideas for pricing, and I think this is one of those things that is a high enough priority that we should build a time machine to fix it years ago. Sure, I'd like more rites and more content, but I think solving the space issue (and the resulting population boom in alts and alt guilds/GHs) should come first.

150 people.. and how many are inactive?

150!!!
Where are they all when we have kami/kara battles??

Must be busy getting stuff out of their numerous alt GHs!

The point is Gidget you clearly don't have 150 active players. I would say at a guess below 20 active members. Being in a large guild I can understand space is a constraint- and I believe it should be a constraint.

If you want more space alt guild halls aren't too much of a bother to use. I do not see space as an issue that requires fixing, let alone something that should take priority over new content. On top of that if they did make more space available you can guarantee people will just max that space out very quickly and be asking for more space saying that there once again isn't enough space for all their hoarding.

Well, I'm usually at work for those (I have odd hours), and we have quite a few in other time zones. I rarely see more than about 20 on at one time. And, of course, different people at different times. But even if we assume only 50 active, that's still a lot of mats/equipment that needs storing; more than a guild of 15-20 would need.

First, I'd say it's at least double that, though you're correct that probably about half are inactive. And yes, there is a lot of shuffling. Sometimes a frustrating amount of logging as a result.

As for your second point, they're a bit more of a hassle for those that only have one subbed account, but I take your point about just asking for more space. As you may have guessed, it's a chronic enough issue to really get under my skin. Maybe I was a little strong, but it also seems like something that would be quick and (relatively) easy to fix, and I'm the type of person who likes getting the quick-and-easy done ASAP just to reduce the number of things I have to deal with.

One reason I don't want to see this is it will only lead to more hoarding. I don't want to create a 1 %'ers class on Ryzom :)

When servers were closing pre-merge I watched and chuckled while several players ground off thousands of sups that had been stored in mutliple GHs. What was the point of keeping them there all those years ? I knew one player, who if to be believed, stated that he had over 25,000 sup mats.... in a one man guild.

What is the purpose of hoarding that much material ? To be prepared for a Guild influx of 50 nekid masters who need a complete kit ? To keep them away from others ?

Yes, mule'ing stuff from one toon to another is a PITA....it's suppossed to be.

+1 Freddy

hoarding is a problem this could lead to, but it's already a problem, the idea is for it to be a dapper sink, if they want to pay for the "upgrades" let them waste the dappers to do it, as always, it's OPTIONAL content, it would be very easy to fix, and i personally would like to have it so that once there are stores of mats, it's less of an issue when someone needs to use them, as things are now in order to keep a fair number of mats in storage you have to limit what's kept and what's not, this thread however is for APARTMENTS, and that's so that i can store grind mat's to craft off later, since storage of 128 stacks of mat's on the merchants means that every 5 days i need to do the shuffle to not loose them, i'd like to buy the space to just store those in my apartment, where's the crime in that, how does me storing 128,000ish basic/fine mat's hurt anyone? and as for people that hoard sup mat's, if they want to put in the effort to have stockpiles let them, who know's maybe if they could see them all in one place they wouldn't hoard so much, but since they might have a stack of one mat in 15 gh's or apt's they'll never know they have 15,000 of a single mat, which only leads to more hoarding in more gh's.

i know this is something i'm wasting breath on because there's so much more hard things to fix that are more importaint to do, but this has been asked for for 7 years, and would not take 7 days to fix, but better we can complain about it all the time, so we don't complain about other stuff more serious.... wait we still do that too, lolx.

so many excusess for something that would be easy to do and could not hurt anyone if it was done.
i honestly think if it was done there would be less load on the server in the end, no need to alt shuffle, no need to log and then switch to another toon on the same account over and over with a f2p alt standing by to do the hand-off, and much less likely for someone to have 20,000 of the same mat but not know because they're in 20 different gh's

anyway nice to see this still getting attention as always, but this one's for apartments, which is personal storage for players. it would be nice if i could use my apartment as my personal crafting bench and spend weeks filling it with 100,000 mat's to craft with, or even 500,000 mat's to craft with, but that's a dream i'll never get, so i just have to be happy with my personal gh if i want to, and that's only 40,000 mat's MAX vs 4,000 in my apt.

anyway sorry to ramble, at least i've not changed any, lolx

take care my friends