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Admittedly, forgetting to credit, vaguely suggesting you collected it yourself... it'd be a minor thing I'd not even consider malice on it's own, were it not that I increasingly hear this is not isolated but rather Freddy's mode of operandi; that he's constantly presenting other people's findings as if he collected them himself, I guess to gain false gratitude and respect from the community.

This relatively minor case happens to be the only one I can clearly show, so there you go. I'd urge the real Atysian explorers out there to watch your data around him.

Hmmm... wouldn't it be interesting if this Jared96 fellow of which started the first post you linked is also Freddy?

Marelli

It takes a real unusual mindset whereby you can accuse someone of claiming credit for themselves when you readily admit it was very clearly indicated that the data was taken from "old forums" and "forum posts over the years". I claim credit for nothing but spending few minutes to track down the information, combine the data from the two sources (with minor edits) into a single list and put it conveniently in a single place accessible to someone who requested that I do so. The two threads themselves contain data from other, and I'll note "uncredited", sources. The ranges listed in the two links for example are taken directly out of patch notes.

For consecutive days there was an ongoing discussion in uni along these lines. I had answered the different forms of the question several times (what are numbers for LA, what are numbers for HA, etc), posting the info along with those very links. At one point, a player indicated that they couldn't use an external browser while in game, copy / pasting those long url's was a PITA and could I post in IG forum". Little while later, it was there.

As to your beef, to quote Alanis... "Isn't it ironic, don't ya think ?" that your complaint is that I didn't post a link to the very thread I myself started in 2008.

"Isn't it ironic" that the genesis of **my thread** was to re-create data previously copied and assembled from "Ryzon News", Patch Notes, forum posts, other guild web sites and other sources that was lost due to an inadvertent guild forum deletion ? A new guildie didn't realize that deleting a post in the IG Guild Forum deleted it for everyone, not just him.

Normally I would have just spent the time searching the forums and recreating the data myself but, as I indicated in **my original thread**:

"BTW, one of the reasons I am asking for this is the search functions of the forum are not working, at least not for me. Any search I do comes back with a "Done" message at the status bar in my browser (Firefox) and a completely blank white page. So if ya have the links to any of these old messages, I'm not being lazy, I just can't find them and ya help would be appreciated."

"Not looking for recipes......just the stuff that was published on the news page and stuff we have all talked about here many many times but which is difficult to find with search function not working."

Perhaps you could explain why ya not outraged that the information in these two threads does not credit the patch notes and other original sources ? Seems the "forgetting to credit, vaguely suggesting you collected it yourself" accusation is much more apt here ..... I outright stated the sources weren't mine, I see no such disclaimer citing patch notes or other sources in the posts you are trumpeting.

Oh and BTW, it's "modus operandi" not "mode of operandi".

Ryzom is missing a well-known and complete knowledge base for these kind of things. In most games there are fansites doing that. On fansites knowledge is usually honored when it is contributed but rarely afterwards.

I think this is a replacement for that missing knowledge base, the important thing is to keep it (more or less) available to anyone. Thank you Fyrosfreddy.

P.S.: Dear BM (and silenda, if reading this) people, don't feel offended. Your site is great and it offers 95% of all relevant knowledge. Imagine how many threads of this kind we would need to keep all that knowledge you collected!

Uly:

The original source of most of this information is the Patch Notes and the forum threads that follow..... when there's changes, this is where for example the -20% t 0% changes to 0% - 20% comes from. One of the more valuable ones is the one with the recent fame changes; Sywindt made a great post for example here:

http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=35113&page=4

Back in February, I made a page on bunnynet to provide links to those patch notes. We&'ve still never recovered all the data we lost in those forum deletions, and slowly but surely, when a subject comes up, I'm trying to rebuild.

If anyone is interested in helping, or just using, the list I have so far is in the "Friends of the Bunnies" section here:

http://fluffybunnies.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1526

Feel free to copy to your own forums anythng you find in the Friends of Bunnies section

I'll start a new thread on this subject entitled "Patch Notes Compilation"

Sorry just a comment to bump this to the first page of the forums so i dont keep having to flick to the 2nd (im lazy :P)

Thanks for putting all the information in one easy to reach place FF :)
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little surprising this hasn't been stickified with all your bumping :P

save it as a pdf for your use perhaps?

Simultaneous bump and question:

NPC LA and HA what ranges have? I know HA has +4 parry (and guess LA +3 dodge) which is outside the normal ranges, but what about the other stats like protection factor and so on?

Thanks.

NPC HA has 4 parry, 1 dodge, 60% pf and 532 in all max vs. Crafted has those stats as a maximum. Crafted NPC HA will also have more hp than dropped sets.

NPC LA has 3dodge, 1 parry, 25%pf and 224 max vs. with 150hp and 50sap.

npc la vest and boots have 100hp 100sap

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