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#202 Added by Micina(arispotle) 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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I believe that no one has understood what the situation is. Merge or nothing, because they do not make it to maintain all the servers. If you agree we start from scratch together. If you do not agree, that's the door. You did not understand that they will not beg anyone but they are pointing to a new community.
I read about threats, words and reactions extremely out of place. Perhaps someone should remember that this is a game, not real life. And above all, that the friendship created in game will exist anyway.

#203 Added by Dudeleader(arispotle) 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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I think this a bold move. There are a lot of opportunities that new players will have after this move that would have been impossible for them without the move.

New players will have the opportunity to craft items that are useable by others. The way the game was intended. They will have the chance to learn the regions the way it was meant for them to learn them - through exploration and teaming with others of their own level and a lot of hard work. They will experience the true difficulties of going from one capitol to another without the assistance of "trek masters" who will most probably have left the game. The new players will be given a chance to become significant instead of constantly in the shadows of the old-timers.

What about those old-timers? What is left for them? Well they will still have all the knowledge of the game. The knowledge and skills that were learned by having previously mastered the game. And that is a huge advantage over a truely new player. I've often said that I think the game should have an 'aging' component so that characters don't become 'all powerful'. I don't believe that the game was intended to have players build a character that was a master of all things.

This player wipe is a form of a terrible catastrophy occuring in Atys which takes the lives of all the masters, but allows Atys to continue - granted for a new generation only.

Why not embrace that? Why not enjoy the turmoil that will exist and offer your knowledge and skills to help bring about the change to the new generation that will grow to enjoy life on Atys? Don't look just at the negative. There will be a lot of fun to be had. And you can be part of it.

#204 Added by Gazzi 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Ähhhh..nope.
Merge is not the Problem why so many old players now leaving the game. The toon reset after 7 years of playtime is the reason. They could strip us from all the materials but could leave the progress archieved like level or jobs intact. So they dont. Why? Technically impossible? Good Joke!

I would like to live on a new populated Atys with people from all over the world. But not starting from zero, stripped from the existance of the past years? No way.


One more adding:

Yes.. people can craft things other can use. The economy will be better. And after another 2 years.. make another reset, when a crafter hits the first billion dapper. Goooooood plan.

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#205 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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All luck to the new generation. It won't be mine, though; I'll stay behind, with all the masters and levels I never made in 7 long years.

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#206 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Micina, the problem simply is that they are killing the game. They could as well announce final shutdown. At least they could be honest with their customers. explaining the economic situation, and what they were and are gaining and spending every month . Afterwards, the customers might consider whether or not they accept an icreased price, or whatever. A "solution" driving away considerable parts of the community, thus significantly reducing the playerbase further, is doomed to fail.

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#207 Added by Neira 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Dudeleader
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New players will have the opportunity to craft items that are useable by others. The way the game was intended. They will have the chance to learn the regions the way it was meant for them to learn them - through exploration and teaming with others of their own level and a lot of hard work. They will experience the true difficulties of going from one capitol to another without the assistance of "trek masters" who will most probably have left the game. The new players will be given a chance to become significant instead of constantly in the shadows of the old-timers.

What about those old-timers? What is left for them? Well they will still have all the knowledge of the game. The knowledge and skills that were learned by having previously mastered the game. And that is a huge advantage over a truely new player. I've often said that I think the game should have an 'aging' component so that characters don't become 'all powerful'. I don't believe that the game was intended to have players build a character that was a master of all things.
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The "old players" that'll keep around, don't just have an "advantage" in knowledge. This advantage will grant them the possibility to achieve old standards in a much faster way as the new players ever could.
They'll have the basic levels back to current status that fast, you won't be able to imagine right now, this fact is increased by the announced xp-boost for transferred characters.

No "trek masters" you say? Those veterans who'll stay are able to pass all the roots unharmed even with a silan-type character by sneaking past all the mobs. They know by heart all the supreme mat-spots.
They know what material they need to make proper PvP-equipment.
They'll get all the neutral teleporter-tickets within one evening.
This is not just an advantage. The discrepancy between veteran and new players will quite fast, faster as you might want to realize now, be the same as it is right now.

The only thing the skill-tree wipe achieves, is to have lots of players leaving the game. Making eventually room for some new players, but lets be honest, those won't replace those people right now paying for 3 up to 5 accounts.
And those new players, that'll have to learn the game first, will then be confronted yet again with a mass of veteran players that are able to overcome them in any imaginable way of gameplay.

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#208 Added by Micina(arispotle) 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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I prefer to have another chance to play rather than just see the game closed. But, in the end, this is about the way of seeing the game. I prefer to start from scratch and try again rather than give way.

#209 Added by Tissarius 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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I'd rather Ryzom went bankrupt again, maybe someone else would have bought the game without character wipe, or Winchgate would open game data as they did with source code and assets. I think that character wipe, at least in the way as it's planned, is not a good idea.
I agree with Baffos. I have kept paying for my account even when I didn't have time to play, just to support Ryzom, the game i loved. But now I really regret it. I've never thought it will end up like this.

#210 Added by Legend 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Just got the sad news that the chars/toons i have played with love and care,Ryzom i loved to play is coming to a close soon. I have only just come back to Ryzom after time away,what is the point of me leveling if at the end of this month its for nothing!
Whatever happens to this beautiful game i thank you all for a fantastic ride. Thank you to all those i have known over the past eight years,i have loved every minute of our lives together and i wish you well.
One more that will not be playing past the death of our beautiful server.

#211 Added by Danto(arispotle) 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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I don't mind the wipe, Ryzom will be just as fun (and probably much more) as before.

We all here love Ryzom because its great community and its very unique gameplay, but please don't forget that friendship will remain and the game (and that's all about) will be even better than before.

I also pay to play this game, even if I can't play few days or weeks, but just for support Ryzom.

Too all the players against the wipe:
Please, demostrate that Ryzom community is STRONGER that its player's characters

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#212 Added by Frappi 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Tissarius
I'd rather Ryzom went bankrupt again, maybe someone else would have bought the game without character wipe, or Winchgate would open game data as they did with source code and assets. I think that character wipe, at least in the way as it's planned, is not a good idea.
... I've never thought it will end up like this.

I agree completely. Sell the game to someone who cares about the community and their long, hard earned efforts of getting their characters where they are now. You're betraying your most loyal subscribers. I'd even rather see you triple the cost of subscribing than a full wipe.

#213 Added by Zyeir 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Is that zombie frappi or real frappi?

#214 Added by Nitrouss 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Cheer's for all the fun time's everyone :)
Just remember the epic battles and the fun we had!!!!

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Through passion, you gain strength.
Through strength, you gain power.
Through power, you gain victory.
Through victory, your chains are broken.
Ma-Duk shall free you.

#215 Added by Krakun 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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We know that you have spent a lot of time on your current characters. It is you that has helped keep this game running as long as it has. You are an unbelievable community that other MMO games and players envy. We would not have made ​​this decision if there was an alternative, and we realise that many of you will be dissapointed. We ask for your support to make this transition as painless as possible.

This is maximum insult to loyal Players in one Paragraph.
What a Joke! All to maximise their profits at the expense of all our hard work, I Loved Ryzom subbed 2 accs, I will remove Ryzom without any reservation out of hate if they wipe and i will never return. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT WIPE you may not be able to manage the game but please dont punnish us too, leave our chars for someone that cares and understands the time it has taken people to get where they are.... Bye Bye Folks o/

#216 Added by Rollocks 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Krakun
We know that you have spent a lot of time on your current characters. It is you that has helped keep this game running as long as it has. You are an unbelievable community that other MMO games and players envy. We would not have made ​​this decision if there was an alternative, and we realise that many of you will be dissapointed. We ask for your support to make this transition as painless as possible.

This is maximum insult to loyal Players in one Paragraph.
What a Joke! All to maximise their profits at the expense of all our hard work, I Loved Ryzom subbed 2 accs, I will remove Ryzom without any reservation out of hate if they wipe and i will never return. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT WIPE you may not be able to manage the game but please dont punnish us too, leave our chars for someone that cares and understands the time it has taken people to get where they are.... Bye Bye Folks o/

Cry me a river! Please someone wipe the server of this dribble. Please wipe the message board too!

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