wow!
i want a guild were everyone that's posted to this topic can be together. the chat in that guild would never stop, and there would always be something to discuss and debate.
let's try this:
why do most players align? to get PR tp's. (to have access to other regions via a teleport, NOT anything to do with RP. {myself and many others i know})
would a guild where (just an example for the friends names i use here, please don't get mad at me) talkirc, suboxide, bitttymcod, rubiksmomo, and binarabi are all together (that's kami, mara, ranger, kara, and trytionist incase anyone didn't know) really going to hurt the game? no, but it sure could make it interesting given all the different views that could be represented in a single gathering.
no matter what banter we go on about, it's not likely that we'll get a guild where we can mix, and while i'd love it (cookies is the compromise to this, and i'm without a doubt part of that already.) i know that the odds of this comming to pass are slim.
I would like to see us able to have more then 2 dynamic chat channels (so that we can have our "special chats") and more controll over it.
how about a warehouse where the owner (eg like a guild leader) could grant or revoke access? with our cookies chat we have to collect everyone back after every server reset, imagine how fast a guild would die if it was required to do so. with cookies there's no way that someone can get the mat's i have for another cookie to craft if i'm offline (no guild hall or warehouse) so it's just not the same to use a chat channel, there are some serious limits to what we cookies can do because we don't have a storage system we can all share, nor do we have a chat channel that is going to always be there.
would a guild that had a little of everything kill the game? i'd say not given that the last time i counted cookies had roughly 70+ ACTIVE (but not all in chat channel because some have given up having to rejoin all the time, or are limited by the 2 dynamic channel limit to have the cookies chat open as well as the other's required by their gameplay and allience.) i can't tell the number of times that the cookies members have killed eachother at an OP war, it happens every single war where more then one side shows up (thinking of the times no one on the "other side" knew there was a war) but sometimes even then cookies that were all on the same side will kill eachother just to create some fun where there was nothing more then guard bashing. (seams to me that a multi guild would always find a way to have a good time.)
something else everyone should think about: regardless of the guild's alignment or lack of, the PLAYERS would still be limited to the restrictions of factions. i think that EVERYONE forgot that this wasn't about giving a guild more of anything beyond the choice of who is invited. just because i'm kami if i was invited to a kara guild i wouldn't get the kara tp's too, nor would i get anything else that's kara, i'm kami and limited as a toon to kami stuff.
you can't trade kami/kara/mara pvp gear so a mixed guild can't do that (bashing someone's claim this would be game braking with that point) someone said that gear would become obsolete, i sure don't see how that's true either, since no two recipes are the same and the merchants don't sell anything beyond junk anyway.
i read every word of this post before i wrote this, and it's amazing how far from the point this went at times. the cookies group has NO advantage over another guild beyond more people to play with and talk to, so anyone that thinks this is a bad idea, doesn't have a clue to be honest. i'm amazed to see cookies on both sides of this topic to be honest (granted that i only see one or two that are against this idea, and those are 100% rp only {i'd say the person, not the homin, does see that this isn't a bad thing, but the homin does})
i for one love this idea of not limiting a guild to who can join, a guild is a group, limit the individual, the player should choose his path, not be forced to follow a guilds path.
i think the only reason some don't like this idea is because they would have to get to know people 1 on 1 instead of just ruthlessly attacking a guild's seal. (makes me think of when i was in PR treking a noob and got attacked by fellow kami because at the time there was a mara in WaO, i was attacked based on my guild's seal and name, and not by my personal actions {given i've ALWAYS been a dedicated and devoted kami}.) so i guess those that are not happy about this idea are worried they'd have to get to know a individual before they killed, and could no longer just say "kill that guild". for those that think this idea makes things easy, think on what i just said, because let's face it, that's how things are in ryzom (even i'm guilty of doing it, for the longest time i wouldn't speak to a single member of "just us" simply because they were a member of "just us".)
i want to keep going but i think this novel has said enough at this time. i'll await future posts and those that want to directly discuss with me things before i go on.
talk
i want a guild were everyone that's posted to this topic can be together. the chat in that guild would never stop, and there would always be something to discuss and debate.
let's try this:
why do most players align? to get PR tp's. (to have access to other regions via a teleport, NOT anything to do with RP. {myself and many others i know})
would a guild where (just an example for the friends names i use here, please don't get mad at me) talkirc, suboxide, bitttymcod, rubiksmomo, and binarabi are all together (that's kami, mara, ranger, kara, and trytionist incase anyone didn't know) really going to hurt the game? no, but it sure could make it interesting given all the different views that could be represented in a single gathering.
no matter what banter we go on about, it's not likely that we'll get a guild where we can mix, and while i'd love it (cookies is the compromise to this, and i'm without a doubt part of that already.) i know that the odds of this comming to pass are slim.
I would like to see us able to have more then 2 dynamic chat channels (so that we can have our "special chats") and more controll over it.
how about a warehouse where the owner (eg like a guild leader) could grant or revoke access? with our cookies chat we have to collect everyone back after every server reset, imagine how fast a guild would die if it was required to do so. with cookies there's no way that someone can get the mat's i have for another cookie to craft if i'm offline (no guild hall or warehouse) so it's just not the same to use a chat channel, there are some serious limits to what we cookies can do because we don't have a storage system we can all share, nor do we have a chat channel that is going to always be there.
would a guild that had a little of everything kill the game? i'd say not given that the last time i counted cookies had roughly 70+ ACTIVE (but not all in chat channel because some have given up having to rejoin all the time, or are limited by the 2 dynamic channel limit to have the cookies chat open as well as the other's required by their gameplay and allience.) i can't tell the number of times that the cookies members have killed eachother at an OP war, it happens every single war where more then one side shows up (thinking of the times no one on the "other side" knew there was a war) but sometimes even then cookies that were all on the same side will kill eachother just to create some fun where there was nothing more then guard bashing. (seams to me that a multi guild would always find a way to have a good time.)
something else everyone should think about: regardless of the guild's alignment or lack of, the PLAYERS would still be limited to the restrictions of factions. i think that EVERYONE forgot that this wasn't about giving a guild more of anything beyond the choice of who is invited. just because i'm kami if i was invited to a kara guild i wouldn't get the kara tp's too, nor would i get anything else that's kara, i'm kami and limited as a toon to kami stuff.
you can't trade kami/kara/mara pvp gear so a mixed guild can't do that (bashing someone's claim this would be game braking with that point) someone said that gear would become obsolete, i sure don't see how that's true either, since no two recipes are the same and the merchants don't sell anything beyond junk anyway.
i read every word of this post before i wrote this, and it's amazing how far from the point this went at times. the cookies group has NO advantage over another guild beyond more people to play with and talk to, so anyone that thinks this is a bad idea, doesn't have a clue to be honest. i'm amazed to see cookies on both sides of this topic to be honest (granted that i only see one or two that are against this idea, and those are 100% rp only {i'd say the person, not the homin, does see that this isn't a bad thing, but the homin does})
i for one love this idea of not limiting a guild to who can join, a guild is a group, limit the individual, the player should choose his path, not be forced to follow a guilds path.
i think the only reason some don't like this idea is because they would have to get to know people 1 on 1 instead of just ruthlessly attacking a guild's seal. (makes me think of when i was in PR treking a noob and got attacked by fellow kami because at the time there was a mara in WaO, i was attacked based on my guild's seal and name, and not by my personal actions {given i've ALWAYS been a dedicated and devoted kami}.) so i guess those that are not happy about this idea are worried they'd have to get to know a individual before they killed, and could no longer just say "kill that guild". for those that think this idea makes things easy, think on what i just said, because let's face it, that's how things are in ryzom (even i'm guilty of doing it, for the longest time i wouldn't speak to a single member of "just us" simply because they were a member of "just us".)
i want to keep going but i think this novel has said enough at this time. i'll await future posts and those that want to directly discuss with me things before i go on.
talk
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