#55 Добавлено Neira 5 лет назад
Edited 2 times | Last edited by Neira (5 лет назад)
#56 Добавлено Heernis 5 лет назад
The idea is more to put consequences on little acts like teaming with enemies on daily things (exchange, hunting...)Not something that will drop fame to the abyss. But losing max fame could be already a serious matter. (could be easily retrieved with missions, but, if every days....)
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#57 Добавлено Neira 5 лет назад
When it comes to PVE (hunting, leveling) , there could be also a fame mechanic to gain loose fame.Lets say a Mara and a Karavan are hunting. Mara will loose his own fame, but gain Fame for Karavan and the Karavan will loose his Karavan fame and gain Mara fame. But it should be still low by every kill. Lets say 0,06 by every kill. That should only work if both chars are aligned (my opinion).Another Situation: Ranger and Mara are hunting. Ranger loose 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan, but gain 0,06 in Mara fame. Mara loose 0,06 fame on Mara, but gain 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan.Neutrals with no alignment should be an exception. I think that is acceptable.
#58 Добавлено Revvy 5 лет назад
HeernisWhen it comes to PVE (hunting, leveling) , there could be also a fame mechanic to gain loose fame.Lets say a Mara and a Karavan are hunting. Mara will loose his own fame, but gain Fame for Karavan and the Karavan will loose his Karavan fame and gain Mara fame. But it should be still low by every kill. Lets say 0,06 by every kill. That should only work if both chars are aligned (my opinion).Another Situation: Ranger and Mara are hunting. Ranger loose 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan, but gain 0,06 in Mara fame. Mara loose 0,06 fame on Mara, but gain 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan.Neutrals with no alignment should be an exception. I think that is acceptable.Sure. Impose frequent refaming upon players for engaging in PvE-content with players of different fame.To avoid refaming, players per this idea should only team up with their own faction.You possibly can't not see how this is incredibly detrimental in building a community especially given the games low playercount.Shared PvE-actions should never have an impact on PvP-related affiliations, as that'd be by definition bad game-design.
#59 Добавлено Neira 5 лет назад
Here again, i think he's talking about players that has the PvP tag activated and are doing PvE content (still tagged ready for PvP).
#60 Добавлено Revvy 5 лет назад
#61 Добавлено Heernis 5 лет назад
NeiraHeernisWhen it comes to PVE (hunting, leveling) , there could be also a fame mechanic to gain loose fame.Lets say a Mara and a Karavan are hunting. Mara will loose his own fame, but gain Fame for Karavan and the Karavan will loose his Karavan fame and gain Mara fame. But it should be still low by every kill. Lets say 0,06 by every kill. That should only work if both chars are aligned (my opinion).Another Situation: Ranger and Mara are hunting. Ranger loose 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan, but gain 0,06 in Mara fame. Mara loose 0,06 fame on Mara, but gain 0,01 on Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zorai, Kami and Karavan.Neutrals with no alignment should be an exception. I think that is acceptable.Sure. Impose frequent refaming upon players for engaging in PvE-content with players of different fame.To avoid refaming, players per this idea should only team up with their own faction.You possibly can't not see how this is incredibly detrimental in building a community especially given the games low playercount.Shared PvE-actions should never have an impact on PvP-related affiliations, as that'd be by definition bad game-design.Here again, i think he's talking about players that has the PvP tag activated and are doing PvE content (still tagged ready for PvP).
#62 Добавлено Gidget 5 лет назад
#63 Добавлено Moniq 5 лет назад
VictoriacamperDappers seem legit.You can loot everything else you kill, why not take some of the wealth from your victims?Possibly too abstract for some but we will see.This is a good idea yes legit, but it implies we will all be thief.Which may not be good for everyone.
Dappers seem legit.You can loot everything else you kill, why not take some of the wealth from your victims?Possibly too abstract for some but we will see.
#64 Добавлено Sinvaders 5 лет назад
#65 Добавлено Revvy 5 лет назад
RevvyVictoriacamperDappers seem legit.You can loot everything else you kill, why not take some of the wealth from your victims?Possibly too abstract for some but we will see.This is a good idea yes legit, but it implies we will all be thief.Which may not be good for everyone.And killing homins implies we are all murderers :D ... so maybe do not do such things if you do not like? :)
#66 Добавлено Magez 5 лет назад
MoniqRevvyVictoriacamperDappers seem legit.You can loot everything else you kill, why not take some of the wealth from your victims?Possibly too abstract for some but we will see.This is a good idea yes legit, but it implies we will all be thief.Which may not be good for everyone.And killing homins implies we are all murderers :D ... so maybe do not do such things if you do not like? :)If i protect my son or even myself in the darkness of the Pyr street, when bandits and poor people are pushed to take weapons, the greed and the hungryness..In the dirty soaked blood sand of the emperor city.I don't think Revvy would like to earn dappers for this, it just make no sense.Nor like i think it is by pleasure some Homins take weapons against each others.One cannot want to be a Thief by taking weapons for reason.This peace and love mentality doesn't apply for all on Atys, depending where you did grow Moniq.But maybe.. it is just the Ranger mentality.. thinking of themselv to be more elitist than a high-graded Matis.
#67 Добавлено Revvy 5 лет назад
RevvyMoniqRevvyVictoriacamperDappers seem legit.You can loot everything else you kill, why not take some of the wealth from your victims?Possibly too abstract for some but we will see.This is a good idea yes legit, but it implies we will all be thief.Which may not be good for everyone.And killing homins implies we are all murderers :D ... so maybe do not do such things if you do not like? :)If i protect my son or even myself in the darkness of the Pyr street, when bandits and poor people are pushed to take weapons, the greed and the hungryness..In the dirty soaked blood sand of the emperor city.I don't think Revvy would like to earn dappers for this, it just make no sense.Nor like i think it is by pleasure some Homins take weapons against each others.One cannot want to be a Thief by taking weapons for reason.This peace and love mentality doesn't apply for all on Atys, depending where you did grow Moniq.But maybe.. it is just the Ranger mentality.. thinking of themselv to be more elitist than a high-graded Matis.I think what Moniq meant is that you are not automatically a thief just because the option to loot is there, you have to actually go to the corpse and loot it, which is a choice, that choice being available is a good thing.
#68 Добавлено Victoriacamper 5 лет назад
#69 Добавлено Revvy 5 лет назад
Well fame is also important to some, don't you see how empty your aruument is? Maybe read it again...And maybe a marauder shouldn't be in pyr in the first place, let alone defending people?Possibly food for another topic
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