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#18 Ajouté par Rikutatis il y a 10 ans [en]

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Guys, I love you all. Really do. =)

But I have to say I think Marceline was one of the few to add something constructive to this thread. I don't think Ryzom is in no way falling apart. Quite the opposite. It's much more dynamic and populated than how I remember it before the merge.

First of all, congratulations to the Matis Government! I've been following your events in the forums and atm the Matis gov is one of the most active and creative out there.

Secondly, congratulations to the event team! It's a much underappreciated job. I know you guys are probably short staffed and overworked too, and given the circumstances, I think you do GREAT! Amazing job, thank you!

I've said this again and again in Arispotle, and I'll repeat it now: Ryzom gives the power to the players. That's the whole reason we have player governments and other RP tools. The event team is here merely to facilitate our own events and ideas. If you go to a government meeting without anything to add, sure it's going to be boring. You have to come up with your own stories (and they must fit the lore ofc, this is a mmoRPG after all).

There are OOC events like Atysmas and Halloween. Those are great. And then there are RP events. You may not want to RP and that's fine. The OOC events are there for you. But an RP event is meant to follow the lore and years of Ryzom story. Sure, inclusive events are generally preferable IMO, but if some events are not inclusive to all players, then you're always free to do your own events as Marceline has suggested.

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#19 Ajouté par Fateciy il y a 10 ans [en]

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question asked by Oz women that got moved here was How can a local assembly change the decision made at The Yrkranis Assembly, That has not been answered.

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#20 Ajouté par Virg il y a 10 ans [en]

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The point I am making Riku is that time and time again people exclude marauders from events and hold their hands up saying "I am sorry but I can't do anything- the roleplay predicts that I don't like marauders and therefore they can't attend"

This is complete bodoc-poo. People can find it quite easily within their roleplay to include marauders but the actual player themselves does not want to involve them. I put forward some very easy suggestions at which people could allow marauders to join in this event. Their RP hands are not tied. They have a choice- yet they choose to exclude marauders.

Say it like it is, don't hide behind the context of RP.

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#21 Ajouté par Salazar il y a 10 ans [en]

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You hold a melee tournament. Who should you invite? How about the very people that despise you so you can humiliate them infront of your freinds and family? How about invite the people you hate so you can prove you are better than them?

Ah, Virg, while Salazar doesn't have anything to do with the planning of the tournament, being not a fighter, as a politician he certainly wouldn't come up with an idea like yours. Flatly said, if I want to make a public point like the one suggested by you, I would first make sure that my side wins, by hook or by crook. But that's probably just me, and I'm no longer in a politicial position, so it doesn't count. ;)

Fateciy (atys)

question asked by Oz women that got moved here was How can a local assembly change the decision made at The Yrkranis Assembly, That has not been answered.

As for the possibility of participation of the Fyros: As far as I remember, no decision was made at the Yrkanis Assembly. Rodi di Varello asked to have it dicussed with the subjects, and then a decision given to the Court. The one thing which obviously went wrong here was that it was only discussed at Avalae, with Natae and Davae having no word in it (and subjects limited to those attending that assembly at Avalae).

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#22 Ajouté par Marceline il y a 10 ans [en]

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Fateciy (atys)

question asked by Oz women that got moved here was How can a local assembly change the decision made at The Yrkranis Assembly, That has not been answered.

Better be careful when questioning the kingdom... remember the Momo's? nope. exactly.

Virg (atys)

People can find it quite easily within their roleplay to include marauders but the actual player themselves does not want to involve them. I put forward some very easy suggestions at which people could allow marauders to join in this event. Their RP hands are not tied. They have a choice- yet they choose to exclude marauders.

I thought the idea of "Let's make fools of the marauders and show them we are better" was a good one... hence my fight club suggestion.
I have a feeling that a fair few people don't invite mara into doing something like that, besides the lore of the land, is through worry of being beaten.
I mean, if i was to hold an event and invite marauders knowing how pvp minded they are, I would have to be pretty damn sure i could at least take a couple down to save face :P

I hope a tryker wins their tournament but i suspect Elv's team will be in with the best chance :)

Why do mara not have meetings... I know there have been some in the past, albeit poorly attended. If things like this come about through rp meetings with event staff then we should at least be able to have the option to plan some events.... Even if it's simply sitting down and talking bollocks to whoever controls the character.(hopefully we don't get one of the event team that wants mara out. mentioning no names :P )
They could drop the hp of a city's guards for a night and get rid of their instant respawn.. providing an opportunity to storm a city.. other players can tag up and join in as resistance.

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#23 Ajouté par Binarabi il y a 10 ans [en]

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Marceline (atys)

Why do mara not have meetings... I know there have been some in the past, albeit poorly attended. If things like this come about through rp meetings with event staff then we should at least be able to have the option to plan some events.... Even if it's simply sitting down and talking bollocks to whoever controls the character.(hopefully we don't get one of the event team that wants mara out. mentioning no names :P )
They could drop the hp of a city's guards for a night and get rid of their instant respawn.. providing an opportunity to storm a city.. other players can tag up and join in as resistance.

Yes - to get events you definitly need to have meetings and invite one of event team to it - are there enough event people about? And you would need to accomadate different "dialects"

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#24 Ajouté par Salazar il y a 10 ans [en]

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Binarabi (atys)

Yes - to get events you definitly need to have meetings and invite one of event team to it - are there enough event people about? And you would need to accomadate different "dialects"

Most of the translations are done now by other players. So usually you need one who can translate English to French and back. Most German players (not all, though) understand English. But indeed, you should make sure someone can do the hard work - and is willing to do so.

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#25 Ajouté par Victoriacamper il y a 10 ans [en]

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Honestly? I just think this got blown out of proportion.

It's not about people not wanting marauder hence excluding them, at least not in this particular case. As Zendae stated, anyone is welcome to come watch. However, only the people she mentioned are allowed to participate because that is the context of the event.

It is the same as saying Ma-Duk would fight in a tournament organised by Jena, for karavan, to prove his/it's value to her. Simply senseless.

Act and comment in context...

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#26 Ajouté par Rikutatis il y a 10 ans [en]

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Marceline

Better be careful when questioning the kingdom... remember the Momo's? nope. exactly.

ROFL Marceline. Touche ^^

To Virg: I definitely agree that the Marauders need a lot more love Virg! Events, government meetings, etc. It's a hard life for the Maras atm. I think the event team is very overworked atm though, and plus there's the translation issue as well. They could probably benefit from more volunteers.

I like the fight club idea though!

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#27 Ajouté par Virg il y a 10 ans [en]

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Marauders were told we would have our own anim member.. 3 months ago... whats the point in holding a meeting with no anim team member present? We just talk about those things in guild chat..

The point is the marauders can't come for "roleplay reasons".. so what are we do to? It would be roleplay to turn up and slaughter you all whilst tagged but the amount of crying that would take place.. every homin would drown from the tears.. additionally I bet the event team would kill us with invisible people again.. what a joke.

So basically we can't attend for RP reasons and the second we do we get killed by invisible guards for "roleplay reasons".

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#28 Ajouté par Marceline il y a 10 ans [en]

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Yeah there's no point having meetings without staff present.. none whatsoever.
i think a postion for a mara event leader is still open... heard someone got the 'job' but then couldn't do it in the end.

as for roleplaying, that's a fair point.
catch 22 unless a mara based event is organised.

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#29 Ajouté par Virg il y a 10 ans [en]

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Yeh we can't turn up to join in as we aren't allowed.

We can't turn up to RP ourselves in a pvp attacking manner as the event team kills us.

gg guys.

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#30 Ajouté par Nerwane il y a 10 ans [fr]

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hmmm..juste comme ça..c'est Atysoel^^
Ne me dites pas que les marauds n'ont pas envie de faire le Grinch ?
Un bel event vol de cadeaux et tout Atys va vous courir après :D
Enfin.. moi je dis ça mais on ne touche pas aux miens!!!

#31 Ajouté par Zoumpaf il y a 10 ans [en]

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poor maras no one wants to invite them to their event...
btw would you invite the drug dealer gangsters of you city to your daughter's birthday...
But self inviting you to rush and adapt the event would effectively be part of your RP...
the faction, allegiances should allow people to have a different way of playing, not only a different sticker on the head

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#32 Ajouté par Maximus il y a 10 ans [en]

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Anyway, why do you feel entitled to go everywhere you want ?
IRL, do you go to your neighbour party without being invited ?
Can they have a life without you nosing in ?

I sure hope not.

Why should it be different in a game ?
Stop thinking that not inviting you is spoiling your fun. Just organize stuff on your own and see how that turns up. People are not "forced" to include you in what they do, they can freely decide for themselves. This is not even a RP question.

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