Agenda

• Ryzom Wikis
  • Creation of a "Wiki" workgroup
  • Improvement of our Wiki documentation
  • New publications
• Ceremony in memory of Arionasis (may 10th)
• JY 2603 patch
• Recruitement

C'est un point que nous devons fortement améliorer… À la fois en ce qui concerne la documentation pour Ryzom Forge que celle pour les joueurs. Question ouverte sur la documentation RF : comment ajouter la documentation Khaganat dans nos wikis ? (Khaganat et Ryzom Forge sont partenaires, mais ont des wikis différents.) Nous en avons déjà téléchargé une partie, mais elle est très dépassée et les liens sont morts. Je vous laisse réfléchir à la documentation technique RF, nous en reparlerons sur le forum, sur RC ou lors de la prochaine réunion de RF. Le second type de documentation est celui destiné aux joueurs : comment la mettre à jour sur le wiki avec tous les changements de gameplay et les nouveaux contenus ? Une proposition ?

J'ai fait un peu de ménage ces temps ci… Mais mes connaissances d'Atys sont insuffisantes. Avoir un canal dédié va aider à corriger les erreurs signalées et données dépassées.

On peut peut-être organiser des réunions ouvertes ou fermées aux joueurs pour examiner seulement quelques contributions par session. Je pense que l'on connait suffisamment de monde pour s'auto-organiser des moments pour ce faire.

Il y a aussi les pages de wikis dans les autres langues. Et là, nous manquons de contributeurs. Ceux qui voudront donner un coup de main sur les wikis Ryzom (et réfléchir aux difficultés rencontrées) pourront rejoindre le canal public dédié au Wiki, que je créerai dès la fin de la réunion. Craftjenn a la parole !

Dommage que Zorroargh ne soit pas là… Je n'ai pas baeucoup de retour des lecteurs. Aussi, il m'est difficile de savoir ce qui pourrait manquer. Je suis venue au wiki parce que j'en avais marre de me répéter (je suis Ranger, donc il m'arrive fréquemment d'aider de jeunes homins). Je l'ai d'abord utilisé comme un bloc-note, en copier/coller, avant de m'apercevoir que le principal contributeur était de ma guilde. Comme vous le savez, il y a six wikis. Un pour les images, et cinq wikis différents par langue (EN FR DE principalement). Même soucis que pour le forum : comme Atys a une longue histoire, plein de trucs périmés (et c'est gênant pour les soucis techniques et les spoilers aussi). Une partie est libre (voir les travaux de Lou Tei-Sang ou les écrits d'Eleanide ou autres), une partie a le sceau LORE.

Jenn et moi travaillons aussi sur les pages Arionasis, Teeneemai, Tyneetryk's Tears…

Pour moi, je n'utilisais guère le wiki, au début. Tout était en français ou en anglais, les traductions n'étaient pas terribles et il n'y avait pratiquement rien en allemand.

Je pense qu'au début il faut se concentrer sur EN et FR. Je me suis trouvée dans le même cas qu'Heernis, à lire en anglais. Puis je me suis dit : je ne suis pas une traductrice pro, mais si je traduis,même vite ou résumé, ca pourrait aider un autre FR.

Ce serait génial d'avoir des membres de toutes les équipes impliquées sur le canal wiki. Contributeurs, traducteurs, correcteurs, loristes, administrateurs système…

Un autre exemple (EN et FR) en cours de finalisation https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Roue_de_la_Fortune

Pour lors, je semble être le seul à contribuer en allemand. Ce serait bien que d'autres rédacteurs germanophones s'impliquent. Et même si les Français pouvaient, grâce à DeepL, traduire et poser des articles au wiki alllemand, ce serait mieux que rien.

Bonne idée d'utiliser DeepL pour les traductions en allemand. Sinon les Allemands auront un wiki entier à traduire…

Est-ce que d'autres contributeurs souhaitent prendre la parole ?

En ce moment je révise un article sur la Roue (une version en francais au depart). C'est une mise à jour. Je ne dévoile pas tous les gains, pour laisser un peu de suspense. Mais je tente d'expliquer tout ce qui tourne autour de la roue. Voilà un exemple d'article à mettre à jour. :)

Est-ce que d'autres contributeurs souhaitent prendre la parole ?

Ma dernière contribution : https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Avant-propos. Une belle histoire écrite en français par un ami joueur et que je traduirai en EN un jour. J'ai aussi contribué au Manuel de l'utilisateur, au Missions de Silan et aux articles botaniques.

Il est temps de passer au sujet suivant, l'heure tourne ! Pensez à rejoindre #pj-ryzom_wiki sur RC si vous voulez aider d'une manière ou d'une autre sur nos wikis !

J'espère que la plupart de ceux qui le souhaitaient ont pu assister à cette cérémonie d'hommage. Pour info, nous venons de retirer du jeu la bannière d'Arionasis, qui restait au sol près de Chiang. Mais Ari, son zig yubo, restera présent en permanence (vous pouvez le caresser). C'était très émouvant de voir tout le monde présent sur Silan et d'écouter les mots de chacun… Nous allons publier le compte-rendu de la cérémonie, avec des images, sur le forum . Mais j'ai vu que des contributeurs ont déjà créé des articles sur le wiki : bravo ! Pour info, nous avons depuis un an un projet de mémorial permanent pour tous les joueurs décédés (projet en attente). Des commentaires avant de passer au sujet suivant ?

Sur le wiki FR il ya une catégorie ad hoc. Je vais en créer la structure sur le wiki.

Il est prévu pour le 18 mai (après minuit CEST). Pour les USA, le 17 mai après 22:00 UTC.

Sujet rajouté à l'ordre du jour. En interne RT et RF utilisent beaucoup le traducteur automatique DeepL : https://www.deepl.com/translator. Il est d'usage facile pour nous en event, par copier/coller, et je fais de même en ce moment pour cette réunion. DeepL traduit bien mieux que Google Translation, et c'est particulièrement visible entre l'allemand et le français. Nous sommes en train de tester l'app DeepL sur le serveur de test, dans le but de l'utiliser comme traducteur automatique sur tous les canaux du jeu. Si c'est concluant (et c'est bien parti), nous l'installerons sur Atys. Alors, il y aura une option pour activer/désactiver les traductions automatiques. Cela devrait grandement aider à abattre la barrière de langue. Et aussi à rendre les events et les réunions plus fluides !

Je dois noter que le nombre de langues supportées est toutefois limité.

DeepL supporte de plus en plus de langues. À ses débuts, il y en avait quatre, contre neuf maintenant, dont les cinq langues du jeu.

L'allemand, l'anglais, le français, l'espagnol, le portugais, l'italien, le néerlandais, le polonais et le russe sont supportés.

Nous recrutons des bénévoles dans presque toutes nos équipes : Ark, Comm-Marketing, Dev, Event, Game-Design, Level-Design, Support, Test, Translation. Si vous avez des questions ou êtes intéressés par une de ces équipes, veuillez contacter Tamarea sur RC ou par e-mail à tamarea@ryzom.com. Pour postuler directement : tamarea@ryzom.com

This special meeting of Ryzom Forge is being held at the request of Inky, who is the creator of the K/K pacts interface and the addition of welcome messages on the ingame channels. He would like to have your feedback on these additions. Inky, you have the floor!

We will start with feedback about teleport interface for kami and karavan players, you are on stage! First sorry for inconvenience with the resurrection issue using autopact. It is now fixed :) As some of you may have noticed the autopact does not need maximum fame to be used. It is a misunderstanding from the communication team. I try to give you a way to use your system with (visual) comfort, and introduced the autopact feature with the same spirit. The goal with Auto Pact feature is to remove that urge need to stack pacts to be able to play (and not to forget a zone!)

I wanted to say that the colors are very good:) because those who have view problems, distinguish well the sicones and races So thank you.

I just want to support what Eleanide said. What is very important to me is the contrast. I can see that lot of icon are made with contrast, what is important to see the object a nice way.

If I may, I would like to see pacts in the list as expanded with descriptions as I have always set my bag to.

This is planned in my todo list :) to behave like the current list in the bag, but more condensed.

I used the interface a few times, all seems well, not much feedback to give. It's pleasant to use

I use it from the day after the patch and except one TP lost (I think with the rez bug) it's nice to use. Good job :)

• Ashuleila 20:33 UTC We need more option I think. Like to classify the TP buy price or alphabetical order.
• Tuffgong 20:34 UTC Possibility to lock window mode of the interface to remain over re-log
• Maiyr 20:59 UTC I think when changes are made like this, more information needs to be given such as how to implament the new changes. Most of us didn't know how to get the artifact to begin with as it was not explained.
• Ashuleila 21:01 UTC Is is possible to have the windows of the Artefact at the connection ? Each time I must open it if I log out :/

Thank you for your feedback about the interface. To the next topic then. Any comments about the channel introduction ?

Around and region are a bit awkwardly worded

I think this change happened in the context of a forum thread started by Revvy. The purpose was to invite homins to RP and explain a bit what RP was etc. However the around intro just says ok here some people RP and doesn't go as deep as it should. Also agree there are some errors but i know some fixes were already proposed.

Tamarea and a Lorist are working on this subject, for now we added the introduction. We didn't forget the original request :) its in work in progress.

In french, the message is okay.

(about suggestion to add links to messages) I think hiding information behind a link makes fewer people likely to click on it.

Addition to roleplay description is in WIP (as stated earlier), the communication team and lore are on it. There is no message on lang universe because it is the same rules as the normal universe, and since players are smart enough to know this. Announcement message are sent in the system information too. Alright, thank you for participating. I will let you debate on the forum (i do read all the post on the idea section.)

• Laoviel 21:08 UTC The explanation message appears only when you switch to that tab. So for example, in Universe it can appear after people have been talking a while ... it can be a bit difficult to understand it's a "message from the system".
• Laoviel 21:11 UTC Newlines before and after, and maybe a tag like Info: or something similar :)
• Eleanide 21:13 UTC Using *** would be fine
• Aleeskandaro 21:14 UTC (about AROUND) "Learn more about here" (a link)
• Bubbason 21:14 UTC Instead of an individual description for each channel, would it be better to have 1 link to a common forum that gives an explanation of what each channel is best used for? This way, you have an option to add more text, instead of a single sentence
• Aleeskandaro 21:14 UTC It would be good to fix the channel description on top of chat window
• Figment 21:18 UTC (about explanation of RP term) Give Chiang a little friend to introduce RP. maybe have a RP representant in each city
• Bubbason 21:21 UTC I still think the option of more text is maybe better. For example, the description in around, if a new player decides they don't want to RP and closes around channel, they miss all kinds of other messages.
• Aleeskandaro 21:32 UTC all channel descriptions should include a link to the game code of conduct and for around, both this link to coc and a description of what rp ist and how people rp, be it in another link or the description itself, it doesn't matter

A brief word on the progress of the new group working on Ryzom wikis: the contributors are now "clearing" the wikis: they are searching, sorting, reflecting, organizing. It is a long preparatory work but very promising for the future! They will tell you more about it at a future meeting.

A video is available on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXBGnc1FaY&feature=youtu.be.

https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/29721/1
We are listening to your feedback.

Ryzom used to be about freedom of choice. A player, choosing their own destiny, their own style of play etc. Now, new Ryzom: Seems to be more about Ryzom dictating to players.For example, every reward seems to be Gubani Tokens, but what about players who don't want to play the Gubani wheel? RP rewards, what about players that don't want to get involved in RP etc. Dapper missions, it used to take 30 minutes to earn dapper, then you were free to do what you enjoy. Now, to get the same dapper you need to do 13 Corporal missions.
To offer a suggestion : maybe it would be useful to put some effort into completing some of the unfinished Rites or Encyclopaedia missions.

Were you able to test it from the fixing patch earlier?

I can't cause artefact disappeared since reboot.

There was a problem with the artifact, but normally everything came back in order... except for those who logged in at the time of the bug, like you two.

I was able to test it a little bit, it works pretty well, but I get scared at first. I didn't immediately understand that it only buys back the *last* TP. On the other hand, if we could have the names of the TPs in the interface rather than in popup, it would be ideal.

What do you think of the new saturation of the icon colors?

Nice job for me. I have some regrets on the tryker blue that turns grey, but nothing excessive.

French said it's nice.

I strongly dislike the grey that has replaced tryker blue.

This integration is currently being tested on Yubo and will soon be tested on Atys by players who volunteer to participate in a "DeepL Test Hour".

The following changes in delivery missions are intended to offset the loss of nation (civ) points awards previously granted by New Horizons:

• Decrease in weight of parcels to deliver
• Decrease to 8 hours of the time limit imposed for the repetition of the same mission
• Increase in rewards granted in lower level areas (100-150 regions)

To help players find a particular NPC, we will add a "Where is... ?" to the dialog box of ALL NPCs.
In order to encourage players to increase the number of their missions (as earnings have been significantly increased) the help function to find other NPCs entrusting missions will be added.

Marauders tribes and missions are in the process of being created and some changes in the missions (the fame rewards of some of them) is a first step in the integration of this addition.

• Under testing: Addition of the Marauder zone near Nexus Minor
• Work in progress:

• Creation of the Maraudeur City map, with its NPCs locations, in the main area of the zone
• Addition of a vortex between Nexus Minor and Marauder zone

• Next steps:

• Move of the Marauder Camp to the new zone
• Creation of the new Marauder City
• Move of the camp's NPCs to their final location inside the City.

The new Marauder map is already on the test server Yubo, the work is in progress.

• Translation team recruits volunteers!

• To translate / proofread into Spanish
• To translate / proofread into Russian
• To translate / proofread into German

• Support team recruits volunteers!

• From North America
• From South America (speaking Spanish and English)
• From Australia timezone
• From Spain

• Event team recruits volunteers!

• From North America
• From South America (speaking Spanish and English)
• From Australia timezone
• From Spain

We have now some dynamics events which can be launched easily, but we need some event lauchers living in US timezone.
If you are interested, please send a mail to tamarea@ryzom.com.

Q: Are there any plans to reduce the repetition time for other missions (crafting or killing ones)? And to give another way to obtain crystals than just delivering parcels?
A: For the other missions (this was one of the topics of the last Ryzom Forge meeting) the repetition times have indeed been greatly increased, but so have the gains! In any case, yes, our plan is to highlight ALL of Atys' missions, to make them more attractive.

Équilibrage du patch JY 2603 : correction des missions de livraison

Tykus (RT) - 19:47 UTC

Les changements suivants, apportés aux missions de livraison, visent à contrebalancer la perte des récompenses en points de nation accordées auparavant par Nouveaux Horizons :

• Diminution du poids des colis à livrer
  

I think that that may have been the goal, Loved; to rid Ryzom of players like you and I who have better things to do than just run around "exploring" a place we already explored repeatedly, who like freedom, and/or who simply did not come here to be treated like second-class citizens.

Gidget

I think that that may have been the goal, Loved; to rid Ryzom of players like you and I who have better things to do than just run around "exploring" a place we already explored repeatedly, who like freedom, and/or who simply did not come here to be treated like second-class citizens.

I don't think things are this bleak. The changes seem well intentioned, just a little hamfisted. They definitely need tweaking. I agree that right now, there is no point in doing crafting missions compared to hunting or digging ones. That needs to be adjusted. Same with faction point rewards.

I don't know about overseer missions in cities, since I obviously can't do those, but tribe prospector missions are great. It's not difficult to make a million dappers in 20 minutes once you know where to dig mission mats.

Don't get me wrong, I was upset by the changes as well, at first. But then I figured out that they're really not *that* bad.

Like say some days ago, changes on mission will be done step by step, hard to balance it correctly in a single shot.

We are working on it, and will apply some fixes soon.

About craft mission, the way to give dappers are different than all other missions.
The missions give the cost in dappers of the crafted items. So to adjust that we need change it, calculate the cost of each items and apply a bonus.
But will not enough, since some missions ask to craft 1 ammo.. for sure we can't reward this missions with 100k of dappers. So, some missions must be adjusted into objetives too.

About replay timer, since we can't change each mission one by one we have apply a formula to calculate the cooldown based on the reward. We will rework the formula to have something more easy like for example 10h, 15h, 20h or 30h and not X hours and Y mins

Like say some days ago, changes on mission will be done step by step, hard to balance it correctly in a single shot.

We are working on it, and will apply some fixes soon.

About craft mission, the way to give dappers are different than all other missions.
The missions give the cost in dappers of the crafted items. So to adjust that we need change it, calculate the cost of each items and apply a bonus.
But will not enough, since some missions ask to craft 1 ammo.. for sure we can't reward this missions with 100k of dappers. So, some missions must be adjusted into objetives too.

About replay timer, since we can't change each mission one by one we have apply a formula to calculate the cooldown based on the reward. We will rework the formula to have something more easy like for example 10h, 15h, 20h or 30h and not X hours and Y mins