PVP - IDEAS FOR RYZOM - Ryzom Community Forum

#16 Added by Entendu 1 decade ago [en]

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Entendu
I think the best case scenario is a new region that is set up like the arena. To make all happy it would need to be a non dig area and not a passage to another place. If you would go in this new region it would be only to fight.
But what's the point in another empty free PvP region? There is already Matis Arena and that location never get any use, because there is nothing to do, but mindlessly killing each other without any goals or rewards. If that new region designed to be kind of WoW battleground, then it needs some tasks to accomplish and some decent rewards. Otherwise i'm pretty sure this region is gonna be another land nobody bother to visit.

Not my ideal area but really the only way people won't complain about it...

#17 Added by Tumbleweed 1 decade ago [en]

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You think so? I bet, after release of this FFA PvP region people would test it for two or three weeks, and then start complaining about it being empty and boring and begging for new content.

#18 Added by Trini 1 decade ago [en]

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If you really think there is a demand for such rule change, you actually should not have any problem finding many people tagged for pvp yet.

All regions already are PvP enabled, you only need to tag up.

In my experience, every attempt that forced "more PvP" upon the Ryzom community, resulted in a decline of population.

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#19 Added by Kilgoretrout 1 decade ago [en]

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Probably a reason these places are empty. More ppl like digging,crafting and lvling their fight skills then PvP. Forcing ppl to PvP is not going to up subs or improve the game more likely the reverse.Kilgoretrout

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#20 Added by Keyif(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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The arena could also hold contests like the Scottish games or even the Olympics. How about a good chariot race? Make the area but leave rest of land nonpvp.

Keyif

#21 Added by Kilgoretrout 1 decade ago [en]

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Ballistic Mystix organized a PvP event in the arena(ok Ini did but under our auspices:)).The outcome was hurt feelings.Teams that joined were not neccessarily easily evenly matched together. Lower teams felt they were cannon fodder.You say make brackets to even it out. Not doable when only 4 or 5 teams apply.We did manage to put together one on one PvP matches more easily doing the nuke when naked test to determine hps.I'd like more of these events maybe someone will step up and organize something.-Kil

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#22 Added by Keyif(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Kilgoretrout

Ballistic Mystix organized a PvP event in the arena(ok Ini did but under our auspices:)).The outcome was hurt feelings.Teams that joined were not neccessarily easily evenly matched together. Lower teams felt they were cannon fodder.You say make brackets to even it out. Not doable when only 4 or 5 teams apply.We did manage to put together one on one PvP matches more easily doing the nuke when naked test to determine hps.I'd like more of these events maybe someone will step up and organize something.-Kil

I have ran a chess league and we deal with players of varying levels. We may have a Grandmaster or IM and a very low rated player on the same team. The way we deal with this is by matching the together highest players. While the lowest players were matched. We also set a cap on the team.

So in PVP we could apply the same concepts. Higher vs Higher. If the other team average is only 150 then ask the other team to field a team that is no more than 175 or so. Still giving the advantage. Or to be fair just set a team cap equal to the lowest fielded team.

This would only be necessary for PVP.

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#23 Added by Inifuss 1 decade ago [en]

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Keyif

So in PVP we could apply the same concepts. Higher vs Higher. If the other team average is only 150 then ask the other team to field a team that is no more than 175 or so. Still giving the advantage. Or to be fair just set a team cap equal to the lowest fielded team.

For the competition Kil was referring to was not individuals signing up, but teams. However, even if we had set it up that way, just determining each players "levels" is not supported in any way in the game and can allow for exploiting the event. For the individual bouts it didn't matter your skill level as you were placed according to your HP. If you did not remove all your armor and jewels then it could possibly put you in a higher bracket and therefore one could not exploit the division - much like boxing and wrestling. Yes, this method could be used for teaming, but if we would have had more teams shown up that would have been a logistics nightmare for everyone involved for all the testing and team building.

As far as 150+ zones set as PvP.. -1. There are already plenty of PvP zones for those that wish to partake. For those in love with PvP, perma-set yourself as tagged and look for others or make a shout out that you are looking for PvP action in (name of location).

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#24 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago [en]

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Given the exodus that has followed every expansion of PvP content, I am quite surprised this topic has surfaced again.

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#25 Added by Iala(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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Fyrosfreddy

Given the exodus that has followed every expansion of PvP content, I am quite surprised this topic has surfaced again.

not surprising at all given the increased focus (ill conceived for the reasons you mention alone) on pvp content by Winch Gate.

Plus it may well be the same players bringing up calls for more pvp time and time again, maybe on different toons.

#26 Added by Arcueid(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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PvP should be expanded, but in terms of quality not quantity. Have large areas forced PvP zones? I would not support this. Instead give PvP more reason, interesting mechanics, better rewards. There are countless PvP competition games out there (RTS, FPS etc), the possibilities are endless.

PvP has its place on Atys, but as mentioned before at the cost of PvE and non violent activities. It is the variety that counts, not the simplest solution.

#27 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago [en]

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Well said .... though I am concerned about how parts might be interpreted .....I'm for separate but equal ...... comparable but not necessarily the same rewrds should be avialable though PvP or PvE. One should NOT be forced in either direction because they would otherwise be denied access to areas, rewards, etc.

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#28 Added by Entendu 1 decade ago [en]

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seperate but equal.... where have I heard that phrase from?... :P

#29 Added by Iala(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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#30 Added by Entendu 1 decade ago [en]

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and thats why Iala that I said this new region would not have mats to dig for and if you were there it would ONLY for PvP.. This is the only way I think it would make most people happy.

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