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#21 [en] 

Uhm, Stitch, personally i think different. Your reasoning about small and big guilds is questionable: why smal guilds should be at mercy of big guilds? Is this a rule?
Yes, it can be forced by game mechanics but, in my opinion, this is when the politics become a major part.
Actually, alliances are not forced by game mechanics but are "pure" player friendships and agreements. If you want a small guild not having an OP, just do your actions to affirm this ingame. Go and declare the OP. If the small guild have friends and can defend their OP is not a fault, but "good politic".
Why you want to destroy this behaviour?
Personally I hate big guilds, because they are anarchy and dictatorship, where players are into not for friendship but for convenience.
Much better small guilds where people really agree to play togheter because of the people and not for convenience. Anyway we can have both now, and the "strength" is decided by the players, not by a forced game mechanic.
Just my opinion.

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Gilgameesh
Legion of Atys

#22 [en] 

Stitch
Yes it would leave smaller guilds at the mercy of larger guilds, which is the way it should be.
Oh really? And why that should be that way? Size of the guild shouldn't be a criterion allowing some group of people to dictate their will upon others.
If a guild can't hold an OP by itself, then it doesn't deserve it.
That's where relations, diplomacy and interaction with other players comes in play. Spamming invites to every person in sight shouldn't be the only way for a guild to get access to high level content. It's MMO after all and interaction with other player groups to achieve the goals and take challenges supposed to have importance. And you want to turn it into some poor copy of Guild Wars.
Factions are already meaningless in OP wars as it is since anyone can fight for any side they want to.
Generally they aren't meaningless with exception of some specific cases. It's some oversized guilds that neglecting faction meaning.
Although if a whole bunch of people all of a sudden leave their current guild and join a different one, it's a pretty safe bet that something is about to go down.
So what? In most cases potential defenders would have no clue if they are going to be attacked or no. And when the button is pressed, it's already too late, because recruiting new members got banned by active war. And if there is no such restriction, defending guild would have only 24 hours before the battle to get more people in, while attackers could have preparations going for weeks.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Tumbleweed (1 decade ago)

#23 [en] 

Stitch
Your notion that a small guild has to quit because of that though is just silly.
Let's say, i'm a member of some small guild consist of four or five active members. I don't care much about outposts, but i like PvP and battles. Now, what would i have to do if GvG become real, forced by game mechanics? I would have to quit the guild that i like to be in, leave people that i like to hang around with, and join some large guild in order to have the kind of fun that i enjoy. And the rest folks in my old guild would have to do the same. Now, THAT'S just silly.
Faile
It's really a solution to combat inactive/low member guilds from monopolizing a resource
There is no monopolizing. Because people tend to share their OP goods with others. At least within faction. Personally, i always got what i asked for with no problems at all.

Last edited by Tumbleweed (1 decade ago)

#24 [en] 

Tumbleweed
Let's say, i'm a member of some small guild consist of four or five active members.

Ok let's.
 I don't care much about outposts,

Then why post about it?
but i like PvP and battles. Now, what would i have to do if GvG become real, forced by game mechanics? I would have to quit the guild that i like to be in, leave people that i like to hang around with, and join some large guild in order to have the kind of fun that i enjoy.

Or instead of quitting you could stay in your guild and press the attack on any OP you want.  Just because it is GvG doesn't mean you can't attack, and since you like PvP as you say that should be enough.   Or you could tag up and go find others that are tagged up and fight them, and since you like PvP as you say that should be enough.  Or you could go to PR and fight the first unlucky person you find down there, and since you like PvP as you say that should be enough.  Or you could go to the Matis arena and have some battles there, and since you like PvP as you say that should be enough.  Or you could just challenge someone to a duel ... see where I'm going with this? You claim to like PvP but really are hung up on one game mechanic concerning one type of PvP and can't see there are many other possibilities than just quitting your guild to join a big one or stop pvp altogether, that's why I call it silly.

#25 [en] 

The kinds of PvP you listed are nothing but jokes, that don't even worth the mention. For example, you can tag up and spend literally hours looking for opponents only to find out that there is very little of them, it's always same few persons and most likely there is nobody at all. Mass PvP in form of OP battles is the only decent option for someone looking for PvP in this game. GvG being implemented, cut off the "mass" part of this statement, degrading battles down to team-level fights and casting away those who would like to participate in real battle instead of team fight.
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