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I'll add one type of action as a candidate to be leverage on fame (just a little bit, negatively or positively) : gaining XP with someone.

And I also completely forget one kind of rp player regarding pvp, sorry !
- conchie

again a archetype !

He is a good rp-er on manypoints and involve in many events except one thing : pvp ! His IRL ethical values forbid him to understand pvp which seems immature if not insane (not totally wrong when you read some comments !). Even someone who embraces a citizenship can be already suspect to him. If fact he doesn't really do RP as he plays exactly how he is in real life and figures it's the same for others. He never misses to promote peace and cooperation, sometimes enable to refrain a complex of moral superiority.

For this kind, the main gameplay reply is consensual pvp.

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Again, PvP CAN be 100% RP, when there are RP motivations behind it and i recognise many people play great characters. However, when the only ground behind it is sequentially killing others, with the sole purpose of disrupting their game and the intent to not let them enjoy a game feature (see chat)... that's not RP, thats called being an ******* ^^

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Yes, I think PvP can be more RP centered, but I don't think that means strictly observing factions and fames. Those are game mechanics that apply to basically everyone...

Instead, what is your actual motivation for attacking someone? What benefit does it provide to you? what are the possible consequences or outcomes...

Just running around saying "i'm red team, you're blue team- I must kill you" is boring af (in my opinion ofc).

So when there are ideas that come up where we should make people stay tagged for hours etc, etc, to make PvP more RP- it fails to consider that PvP has extremely weak RP to begin with and it is not related to any tag timer :(

I will try to make them stop with arguments. I will not fight on either side. If I will be alive after the fight, I will try to ressurect those homins who has died in that meaningless fighting.

I believe that it can be, but often isn't.

However, the rewards always seemed a bit screwy to me. For instance, I fail to see how race really plays much of a role, except between Trykers and Matis who have a bit more contentious history than other combinations of races. The tensions between Tryker/Matis and Fyros/Zorai have more of a factional than racial basis. There is also plenty of tension even within factions, as well as some cross-faction alliances.

We all (probably) agree that fighting an enemy should give greater rewards than fighting an ally, the political realities of Atys are such that coding any sort of system that varies rewards based on race/faction is a bit idealistic unless we have someone constantly updating a spider-web map of alliances that changes about every twelve seconds or so. Then again, the rewards are rather irrelevant here. Sure, PvP points can get you crystals and skirts and shields, but why do we PvP anyways? Some do it just for fun, others to grief, but a lot of PvP is for stuff that helps our guilds or faction like sups, outposts, or bosses.

At the end of the day, whether or not PvP is RP or simply gaming depends how such conflicts affect lore.


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I think the situation between Fyros and Matis is pretty bad right now. (look at hidden source "desert" + tower defense being build in Thesos (in front of the kingdom border).

I'm not so sure about the "right now" part, but it does seem to be headed in that direction. If PvP is RP then I expect Matis to have huge targets on their backs in the foreseeable future. However, it still seems to me that the only real tensions among the races are pairings that include Matis,

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I wouldn't consider PvP by itself RP. I think it can be a part of RP, however. But it needs to be abundantly clear to both parties that it's intended as such.

From what I've seen, the underlying issue is a clash betwen the RP community and those uninterested in RP. If a RP enthusiast ganks someone who has no interest in RP, it's annoying and unwelcome.

An RP tag would be nice (pardon my ignorance if it's already a thing and I haven't noticed it) because the PvP tag only covers the PvP part of RP.

I wholeheartedly agree!

Been years we ask for it... it was deactivated after merge in favor of the "Free For All" Tag (considered RP then ? I still don't see how).
+1 for this