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#298 Report | Quote[en] 

Many are indeed coming back... but only with a "wait and see" attitude (while watching the ticker on their Subs run out).

*visions of PR becoming an absolute competitive nightmare*
*visions of Dyron, Fount, Void, etc. blowing up every 2 hours when KT nosedives, due to ovecrowding*
*visions of cultural difficulties... languages aside, just playstyles, really*
*visions of goldfarmers invading Atys* (Dappers for sale! Go to http://scamsforstupidrichpeople.com now!)
*visions of grindkings and powermongers and Alt-squadrons playing 24/7 to achieve domination before their peers can achieve squat*


Poor casual players, I say. They will feel the pinch.


You know the ol' sayin', only takes 1 bad apple to spoil the whole barrel.

*visions of way more than 1 bad apple*


But Doom and Gloom aside, I'll be back. Yes, to see what the "new" game brings, but moreso, for what I bring to the game. :)


One thing nobody can take away... and that's me spirit. :)


•••Winter•••

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Always argue with an idiot... it's the only way they can get Experience! :)

#299 Report | Quote[en] 

I am coming back to play. I like the game period. I would spend the same money on another game if I liked it. I rarely find a game like that this that I actually enjoy so despite that i have to start over I plan on playing more of this.

#300 Report | Quote[en] 

Tgwaste
Gorran
Tgwaste
Suboxide
Well all of GoJ are planning to return after full wipe so he won't be alone

Good for you.

To be honest. Im very annoyed at anyone who would return and put time into the game.

Wow, that is a very selfish attitude. Just because you can't find a reason to enjoy the game if there is a full wipe, you want everyone to join in your misery.
Tgwaste
You are sending a message to the company that they can do and get away with anything they want. That they can treat their paying customers like trash and that that is OK.

I think its absolutely aweful. Just my opinion.
Really, treating us like trash? They gave us 15 days notice of the intended change, they could have waited until the 22nd. They did what they could to soften the loss of skills by increasing XP for subscribes to 2x. They scheduled events to help with the transition.

Then they listened to the customer dismay at the loss of skills and started considering ways to save skill levels.

I don't feel like trash at all, I feel like the company came to a crossroads and mapped out the best transition they could. Then, when they saw the impact of that map, they started looking at alternatives.

Also, the idea of starting from scratch is appealing in its own way and am seriously considering retiring Gorran regardless of the outcome of the wipe.

Gorran,
I have not called anyone any names or made personal insults. Maybe you could at least do the same?
Odd, I don't see any name calling nor personal insults. You clearly state that you are very annoyed with anyone who would return and I clearly state that that is a selfish attitude.

I am happy there are those who will be happy with the game. I've lost the game a couple of times already and never expected to find Gorran intact when I returned. He was and that was wonderful but if he were gone, I would have played anyway.
tgwaste
We are all frustrated but Im hardly selfish. I subbed for a year after only playing for 2 months to support this game and its community.

Regarding the other argument:

<WG> we have to wipe you there is no other way
*users complain*
<WG> well maybe we dont..

that doesnt strike you as peculiar? really?? Sounds like someone wanted to pull a fast one and now thinks they can no longer get away with it.. but maybe im crazy.
No, for I believe a very simple maxim: Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity.

Pulling a fast one would have been: We're merging the shards and everything will be good! (wipe) Oh crap, we lost all the data and can't get it back, let's all cry together.

You don't pull a fast one by giving people 2 weeks notice.

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Eldest, Order of the White Lotus

#301 Report | Quote[en] 

Wintergreen
Many are indeed coming back... but only with a "wait and see" attitude (while watching the ticker on their Subs run out).

*visions of PR becoming an absolute competitive nightmare*
*visions of Dyron, Fount, Void, etc. blowing up every 2 hours when KT nosedives, due to ovecrowding*
*visions of cultural difficulties... languages aside, just playstyles, really*
*visions of goldfarmers invading Atys* (Dappers for sale! Go to http://scamsforstupidrichpeople.com now!)
*visions of grindkings and powermongers and Alt-squadrons playing 24/7 to achieve domination before their peers can achieve squat*


Poor casual players, I say. They will feel the pinch.


You know the ol' sayin', only takes 1 bad apple to spoil the whole barrel.

*visions of way more than 1 bad apple*


But Doom and Gloom aside, I'll be back. Yes, to see what the "new" game brings, but moreso, for what I bring to the game. :)


One thing nobody can take away... and that's me spirit. :)


•••Winter•••

Doom and gloom, even at the height of player activity none of these were huge problems and some are actually intended parts of the game.

PR is SUPPOSED to be competitive, that's why it's all a PvP zone.
Kami Tolerance is SUPPOSED to be something that diggers have to consider, that's why it's there.

Language will only be a problem if we make it that way.

Ok...enough from me. I can feel the top getting ready to come off.

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Eldest, Order of the White Lotus

#302 Report | Quote[en] 

Gorran
No, for I believe a very simple maxim: Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity.

Sometimes the 2 go hand in hand. Ie: someone robbing a cop.

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Tgwaste

#303 Report | Quote[en] 

Change happens everywhere and every day, i was f2p for 8 months before i started a paid account. I work alot and the first thing i do in the morning on my days off is sign in and play for a few hours and the last thing i do almost every night before i go to bed is sign in and play. When I started playing in November i didnt think i would play that long but look 9 months later im freakin hooked :). I know i could have done things differently when i started my first character and with the wipe i can correct those mistakes and come back in beast mode after the wipe. Looking forward to it and hope all the friends i have made along the way will return as well. Magist, pink, boog yall better come back! lol

game on!
longrod

#304 Report | Quote[en] 

Sorry, Gorran...


I did not mean to worsen your day. :(


•••Winter•••

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Always argue with an idiot... it's the only way they can get Experience! :)

#305 Report | Quote[en] 

Gorran

Doom and gloom, even at the height of player activity none of these were huge problems and some are actually intended parts of the game.

PR is SUPPOSED to be competitive, that's why it's all a PvP zone.
Kami Tolerance is SUPPOSED to be something that diggers have to consider, that's why it's there.

Language will only be a problem if we make it that way.

Server merge is nessesary for ryzom to survive it sounds like, other games have multinational servers that work so i'm sure it can work here eventually. though its going to take alot of planning to make it work for all.

Personally i think a partial wipe could be kind of fun, The kitins invade destroying all stockpiles, dappers lose value, and homins must pick up the pieces. Its part of the Atys story. We need our characters though, and our skills, to start over. Restart all existing homins on one land or even silan if you must. Just as a place to login to, then leave the rest up to homins.

A few suggestions that might make things go easier:
- let homins keep their personal bag inventories if possible. or atleast what they have equiped, plus a few dappers.

- disable outposts for atleast a month so newer players/guilds have a chance to lvl up. maybe by making the kitins take over the outposts making them unusable.

- pricing is not a issue with the market. more access, features, population are.

The complete wipe for the given reasons remind me of a communist purge of ex. intellectuals. getting rid of the older to make way for the newer shooting yourself in the foot in the process.

Older players will outpace newer ones regardless of whether they are chopped down to same size. And newer players miss the oportunity to enjoy a game with other fresh players.

Mass genocide does not sound like fun. However restarting after a kitin plague with only whats on our backs, and our skills sounds like fun.

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#306 Report | Quote[en] 

Seawe
Mass genocide does not sound like fun. However restarting after a kitin plague with only whats on our backs, and our skills sounds like fun.

+1

#307 Report | Quote[en] 

Seawe
Mass genocide does not sound like fun. However restarting after a kitin plague with only whats on our backs, and our skills sounds like fun.

And maybe the mount (if you didn't flee via teleport the mount would be the fastest way)
The storage space of the mount would of course be empty except for some food/water and maybe some camp fire stuff.

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#308 Report | Quote[en] 

Seawe
Mass genocide does not sound like fun. However restarting after a kitin plague with only whats on our backs, and our skills sounds like fun.

I like this one :) Agreed!

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Denyria - Swinging an over-sized club since September 2004.
Evolution

#309 Report | Quote[en] 

For the role players the real exodus is the wipe of what happened on Atys, as we had different evolutions on each server. My character is (still is for a few days) a historian, and became a Filira just for that. After the wipe, he's just ripe for the nuthouse - and/or a kind of fairy tale teller to one of the language-separated communities.

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#310 Report | Quote[en] 

[quote=Zehssad (Aniro)]
Seawe
Mass genocide does not sound like fun. However restarting after a kitin plague with only whats on our backs, and our skills sounds like fun.

+1
Makes more sense than waking up with a new body, amnesia and a starter pack

#311 Report | Quote[en] 

@Yumeroh: Thanks for the news, and thanks for trying to find alternatives to the wipe.

#312 Report | Quote[en] 

Lello Folks :)
I think its a good news i mean to devs try do something! What u cry about....about master lvl's, about mats what u get form ops and keep for own use? Its nothing, remember what fan u have of ryzom playtime! I just hope to this rest help game as its help once!
Just dont get one did i need pay for month to join 22th and be there when servers go down?

GoJ on my heart! :)

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