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#16 [en] 

Atys'ata, honored Awakened,

Thank you very much!

Ah, so it's the "Free Trade Agreement" that you have mentioned. Yes, this is a really old treaty and it's exact phrasing seems to be unknown to even many officials. Maybe the Dynastic Circle can find a copy therefrom in the Great Library of Zora; hopefully the document was not lost or damaged too badly during the Second Great Swarming.

Well, I have to add for consideration that the newer treaties might make this older one invalid anyway. Or at least partly, as all Treaties of the Four People of every dialect state in pretty similar words: "Homins residing or passing through a nation that is not theirs have to obey the laws of that nation " Even the TENANT Treaty demands the same (Article 5).

The Treaty of the Four Peoples also states "This treaty supersedes previous treaties in regard to the above articles" - in only little different phrasings for each dialect.

So if a law of the Theocracy should forbid specific things like Goo-contaminated ammunition (as was used to murder the much respected Governor Still Wyler), Goo-drugs like at least one tribe of the Witherings is said to produce, or termites altered by magic potions to be transported from, in or through the Witherings, then I think the newer Treaties should support this law.

Just think of the possibility that even if the Rangers will respect our government's prohibition of using "magic" termites in the Witherings (as Wilk Potskin has "promised" during the Assembly of Rangers), someone else who wants to anger our people might do so and afterwards claim that they were just transporting these insekts and somehow unfortunately some of them must have "escaped". I wish to prevent this or at least be able to punish outrageous deeds like that by the law. And in time; not after damage has already happened.

Still we will have to consult our Sages before deciding anything of course - if and how to regard all this.

to be continued...

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#17 [en] 

You might already know, however I want to note this in my open letters for your information:

A few homins have gathered and put together whatever old treaties they were able to find between the Four Peoples in their respective dialects. You can find these treaties here:

* Treaty of the Four Nations in the dialect of Min-Cho (Arispotle): http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/112827 Was found here: http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=28253
* Treaty of the Four Lands (Vertrag der Vier Länder/Völker) in the dialect of Hoi-Cho (Leanon): http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/112832 Was found here: http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/pubde/wiki/CE_Vertrag_der_4_Laende r
* Treaty of the Four Peoples (Le Traité des Quatre Peuples - ou Édit de Still Wyler) in the dialect of Jen-Lai (Aniro): http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/113085 Was found here: http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/3/wiki/L_Traité_des_Quatre_Peuples
* TENANT treaty (Treaty for Balance of the Atysian Nations in the New Lands) http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/112866 Was found here: http://fr.ryzomnomnom.com/wiki/Traité_pour_l'Équilibre_des_N ations_Atysiennes_dans_les_Nouvelles_Terres
* The Universal Declaration of Homin Rights (Déclaration des Droits de l'Homin) http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/113081 Was found here: http://fr.ryzomnomnom.com/wiki/Déclaration_des_Droits_de_l'H omin

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#18 [en] 

* Goo-Law

The Theocracy of the Zoraï hereby forbids the production, use, unauthorized possession, import, export, trading/transfer, advertising/offering as well as non-reporting the knowledge of such illegal deeds of all kinds of objects, item-parts, fillings or components and the like, that are mixed, filled or processed with Goo of any kind in the Witherings.

Especially weapons and munition made with or from Goo are striktly forbidden, as well as any kinds of drugs made of Goo. Any counteracting will lead to a court proceedings and will be punished severely. Any findings of Goo-polluted objects, item-parts or the like (especially weapons and ammunition) in the Witherings has to be reported to the officials of the cities of amber as quickly as possible. Trusted scholars can ask for an official permission to scientifically research Goo and will be advised to use utmost caution; not least because of the danger of Goo for their own body and mind.

It is not forbidden to harvest Goo of any kind to destroy it, but on the contrary: this is very welcome and we encourage every homin to do so as often as possible. Goo and Goo-polluted materials should otherwise be delivered to officials in the cities of amber and not be used to produce items like equipment nor weapons. Dealing with such materials to make profite is definitely forbidden.

The Theocracy of the Zoraï wants to remind all Zoraï and Initiates that the most respected Kami have chosen us to fight against the Goo. Please remember this duty as often as you can and let the officials of the cities of amber know if you hear of dealings with Goo wherever on Atys. Thank you.

(OOC: please note that the handling of Goo-mission-materials and even Goo-polluted animal-loot is not forbidden RP-wise. Some Goo-polluted loot might be used for crafting - since the products are not specifically labelled as Goo-polluted, you won't have to fear of getting "in conflict with the law")


The Awakened Astarth from Min-Cho has aked for a condition to be added to this law - he wanted the Goo to also be researched on, which has already happened in the past during the times when the Goo has spread

* suggestion of a phrasing of this addition to the law:
- The Theocracy has renowned scholars and scientists who discreetly research the Goo without any incautious experimentations, but instead with utmost care and with all due respect to the Kami and the nature of Atys.

The Awakened Fey-Lin Liang from Jen-Lai has asked for three more changes to the law

* suggestion of a phrasing of these additions to the law:
- The Goo is a disease and abomination that threatens the balance of nature on Atys instead of being part of it. Destroying Goo is an important task to protect Nature and to ensure the health of the Ecosystems of Atys.
- As Goo is a plaque and a manifestation of nothingness, Goo-contaminated items, item-parts, fillings, Goo-drugs and so on of any kind are not to be seen as "wares" nor "goods".
- Goo can be destroyed by Homins as is recommended to do with the small amounts of Goo that can be found under the bark. Even though fire can be used to destroy Goo it is not easy to kindle on bigger sources and fire must never be spread on a large scale in the Witherings as this could severly damage Nature and endanger many species.

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#19 [en] 

* Goo-contaminated Igaras in the Upper Bog

At the Assembly of Nobles in Avalae with Filira Salazar Caradini as a guest the Nobles said that magnetism might help to contain the Goo in the Upper Bog, where lately Goo-infested Igaras are showing up around Fearing Farm. The Nobles also considered to ask Zorai-scholars to supervise the measures taken to stop the Goo, so that the Zorai would be able to ensure that Respect for Nature is exercised.

I have taken the liberty to write letters to the dynastic circle, asking them to forward letters to scholars specialized on magnetism and goo - to see if they might want to offer their assistance. I can only hope so, since they are Zorai just like us; honored by the Kami with the task to fight the Goo.

There will be an expedition that will lead Matis-scholars to the Upper Bog protected by fighters, arranged by Filira Salazar Caradini, which was approved of the Nobles from Avalae at their last Assembly. Maybe our scholars can then also accompany this expedition to take a look at the problem.

* I sent a letter to the Dynastic Circle to ask them to arrange a date to have an official delegation of the Theocracy meet with the Gib(b)ads in the Void to talk about the Kitin-mounds/-tunnels and plans to get rid of them safely; also to renew the alliance of our people with this remarkable tribe and hear what they might say about the Ranger's plan of using termites fed with magical potions...

* my suggestions about "rules" for coming national Assemblies of the Circles of the Theocracy have been sent to the Sages and made public here: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16226/41 #41

* I sent a letter to the Dynastic Circle about the Tribes "Black Circle" and "Masters of the Goo". The content is confidential and can only be revealed to members of the Theocracy.

* Taliar Luth has voiced his wish to renew a trading treaty with all four nations to ensure unrestricted transport and trading by merchants all over Atys. We might want to address this at our next national Assembly. Still I have already informed the Taliari that we Zorai are planning a law against the handling and also transportation and trading with Goo-contaminated items of all sorts. I also stressed that our amber cities are now responsible for certain regions and tribes of the Witherings; so we would like to be informed about dealings with those tribes, especially the ones that are abusing Goo.

* I heard a rumour about a Tryker (Tepsen?) who had maybe found new means to fight the Goo a long time ago. Sadly the Trykers of Windemeer know nothing about such a finding when I asked them at their latest Assembly. We might want to investigate this further.

* I have been to the Kitin-Nest twice to do research of the Goo found in the Dark Mines. I hold samples of this kind of Goo to give them to the scholars of the Theocracy as soon as possible.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zhoi/8681260570/in/photostream/light box/

* unfortunately I was not able to get samples of the flesh of Goo-infested Igaras yet and maybe never will, because I am not such a good figher; but hopefully our scholars will accompany the official expedition of the Matis to get samples themselves.

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#20 [en] 

To all representatives of the Theocracy:

Termite-mounds have been sighted in the Witherings!





So much for the "fact" that Termites are (still) endemic solely to the burning desert...

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#21 [en] 

Kamia'ata,

I take the opportunity of these exchanges to introduce some topics :

Firstly, the organisation of communication between our three assemblies of circles of Jen-Lai, Hoi-Cho and Min-Cho. As things are going, we will have to work on national subjects in order to prepare assembly of Circles of Zora. We have then to be able to have exchanges about those outside assemblies.
I suggest that communications are gathered in the language of Min-Cho, with translations in each other language, on each notice board. It is a necessary condition to keep possible involvment of each initiate whatever his dialect. It would require translators. If I for myself could accomplish this, i rather not, because it would take much of my time. This is why i believe we could, if no initiate is volunteer, engage translators. We could negociate his remuneration, and ensure we can pay it by organisating events with subscription fee.
Being about three Circles working for a fourth one, I suggest to name this the Quadrature of Circles (OOC : litterally translated, exact translation is "Squaring the Circles", but it loose the "quadra" meaning four)


Then, I'd like to precise the two projects that I have introduced during last assembly of Zora :

Pak-nédai squad : in the beginning, i wished this to be a full zorai action squad, but i bellieve it would be little conclusive this way, because of a lack of members. More : wisdom is better off being shared. I rather believe there should be sessions to train and make homins aware, open to peoples of good will.

Replacemnt project for the Seasonal Endowment of Jen-Laï : if the Endowment instill a good perception, it's probably mainly of myself. I was but hoping to gather the shizu'i of Jen-Lai in this action. On another hand, despite the liking for the Theocracy that may appear, I don't think it is drawing them to initiation. Thus, in order to inspire homins, I believe it would be better to replace the Seasonal Endowment with something I would call Theocratic Spiritual Exchanges. Open to each homin people of good will, it would consist in asking a question about the Theocracy, questioning whose study will enrich the spirituality of those who will try to answer. In exchange for this spiritual enrichment, in addition to the answer, the asking person would receive a gift, dappers, or item of his choice, under the limit of the value of his question. It would require a kind of table allowing the evaluation of each question, by case. Questions and answers would be written and readable for everyone, in order to share this spiritual enrichment. Given the complexity of all this, it would be organized only once per cycle. So, the Seasonal Endowment of Jen-Laï would be profitably replaced by the Theocratic Cyclic Spiritual Exchanges.


About the topics introduced by Zhoi during last Assembly of Zora, i can't think about anything particular to tell about the Treat of the Four Nations, except that patriot Geyos came to introduce the project to write a new treaty. Of course, we suggested him to present this at the assembly of Zora, after thanking him for sharing this information with us.
About the propositions from Taliar Luth .... I only have confused knowledge about vague projects, and i see nothing to say, but there is probably much to learn about this.(And I see when I write this that there are some more details above, I will look at this)


Finally, I wanted to give a nother enlightment on the questionning about the law about Goo, thus, I suggest to each one to have a glance on my introductory text about scientifical ethics at the N'ASA. I recently translated it into the dialect of Min-Cho in order to make it more accessible.

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Fey-Lin Liang
Li'laï-ko
Talian-Zu

#22 [en] 

Atys'ata, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang,

first of all I have to apologize for replying to your letter that was addressed mainly to the representatives of Min-Cho. However the topics surely concern all of our beloved amber-cities, the next Assembly will be very soon - and I hope that I have evinced enough respect by waiting up until now for a reply of the honored Awakened Fitis and/or Astarth.

1. communication

It makes me very happy that you, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, agree with my pledges to increase our cities communication about national issues between national Assemblies. Unfortunately I do not understand your suggestion: exactly what means of communication are you proposing?

As I was always asking everyone to use these notice-boards from the beginning but this didn't work out so well (not least because of meddling comments from non-participants), I believe that you must have another "board" in mind?

In the matter of Assemblies or meetings I'd like to inform you that the Sages have agreed to discontinue the regular regional Assemblies of Hoi-Cho and to only have regional meetings at times of need. Min-Cho also hasn't held its regional Assemblies for a couple of times now. This means more free time for us to arrange meetings of the cities' representatives.

As for translations ... it has been clear from the beginning that all of us will have to use the dialect of Min-Cho to talk to each other, even though or actually because none of the current representatives speaks this dialect as her or his native tongue. I will take care of translations to and from the dialect of Hoi-Cho myself. If you or anyone else wishes to engage translators then please feel free to do so! As for events with a fee... sorry, I won't support that; but surely there will be other homins who will want to help out.

I like the name "Quadrature of Circles" a lot! (OOC: it's very close to the well-known German term "Quadratur des Kreises" and such every German-speaking player recognizes this play on words immediately :) In Spanish it would be "Cuadratura del círculo", so Astarth and Fitis should like it too.)

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#23 [en] 

2. Pak-nédai squad

Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, I share your concerns about a lack of members for such a squad that wants to defend but not kill. Sadly I fear that even if members from all races would be welcome it will stay a very small group. Still I wish you the best of luck for it! I personally do not believe that such actions will even be possible with the way our beautiful but harsh world is like, so I won't participate.

I have experienced it myself too often - you cannot stop other homins from doing whatever they like if they refuse to listen to words alone. You cannot really control or defeat animals, primitives or even tribes "for real" without killing them; and even death will stop them only temporarily... See; this is one of the reasons I took up politics - sometimes political ways are actually the most effective to solve many kinds of problems once and for all!

It reminds me of peace-loving coalitions that existed in the past as I heard... Like "the voice of reason" with "prominent" leaders like Sorenal "the wanderer" (a Zorai who was well-known for arranging peace talks), Mardok (Leader of a Zorai-guild), Danny (a much courted Zorai who's still around), Keycee (former leader of Free Souls, later replaced by the respected Taliar Chanchey Breggan), Sharvi, Aidas and Lynie (leaders of guilds not active any longer)...

Mardok was a mentor of mine once and a very noble Zorai; he also initiated the project "Freehaven" together with a newfounded guild of Trykers, also supported by Chanchey; they equipped newcomers and exchanged crystals every two seasons between all interested guilds on Atys, who met there peacefully unrestricted by their enmities...

Unfortunately most of the renowned members of these projects have gone missing in the meanwhile, otherwise I'm sure they would approve of your project and most likely support it too.

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#24 [en] 

3. Theocratic Spiritual Exchanges:

These are very interesting ideas for a national replacement of the Seasonal Endowment of Jen-Lai, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang! Still... well, I believe that for the good of all Atys (OOC: and the many non-roleplayers who are the majority I think) newcomers should be supported even without any conditions... How about a compromise: what do you think about giving out at least one full equipment to refugees for free and only start asking them questions if they want to be equipped with better stuff a second time or even more often?

If needed I will definitely gladly help providing this endowment with wares, materials and even occupation-products as good as I can. Unfortunately my skills are limited as I have never been keen on achieving the "best" euqipment/materials - but as the project seems to mainly equip newcomers I might still be of help. Maybe I can also provide storage-space if needed.

For this I'd like to know the exact requirements - what kind of equipments are normally needed / given to whom?

Speaking of "whom": there is another thing I have been thinking about - what about providing the merchants in all capitals with newcomer-equipment regularly (we just have to keep in mind to take unsold equipment back before it is sold off and will vanish from the sales pitch)? Of course made in Zorai-designs and maybe even with a few words of wisdom as an inscription on the equipment?

I'm not sure if maybe other homins are already taking care of doing exactly this, and it would need a bit of thinking about what steps of qualities would be most appreciated/wanted by newcomers - but will not "overpower" them too much. I believe that giving newcomers the "very best" equipment like made from supreme materials or the like might demotivate them from trying to achieve better skills in harvesting and crafting themselves. This has actually happened to me back in my times of youth...

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#25 [en] 

4. new Treaty of Four Nations

Thank you very much for informing me/us about this, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang. We of Hoi-Cho also know very little about this. In Dyron we were told that Icus (of all homins!) had suggested a rewriting of the treaty to officially merge all the existing different versions, and had wanted to phrase it much like the "TENANT"-version... Weirdly enough I also heard about Zorai from Jen-Lai wanting to help out with the new version and there was even a rumor about the Sharükos Lykos approving of this rewriting even before Dyron or Pyr knew about it... I wish these rumors to be cleared up and the truth to come to light.

As this project is an international one I'd really like representatives of ALL cities on Atys to be able to contribute to it and to talk about it together. The same goes for the free trade aggreement. Maybe we could initiate an international meeting of all political representatives who are interested, plus at least one representative of each government as well (Sages, Senators, Advisors of the king, Governors/Intendants)? It would give us Zorai some reputation if we were able to arrange something like this...

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#26 [en] 

5. free trade agreement

Yes, I have collected all kinds of knowledge about this topic on this board. However here's an overview: at the Assembly of Taliari on Folially 4 in the 4th cycle of AtysYear 2572 (OOC: April 15th 2013) Taliar Luth McFay has suggested a free trade agreement that would allow merchants to (very) freely cross all nations without talking to political representatives first...

You, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, have reminded me of the old trading-agreement that has been signed in 2516 in Hoi-Cho by leaders of the four nations. http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/puben/wiki/L_ZoraiNewBegin Slightly differently phrased versions have become known on Atys as you have found out. So I have - repeatedly - asked the Sage Gangi Cheng-Ho and the dynastic circle about the exact wording of this free trade agreement; but nobody was able to find out more about it since then. Maybe the documents were lost during the second Great Swarming?

Also the Treaty of the Four Peoples was signed later on, and there is one passage that might override the "free trade agreement" at least partly: "10. Homins living in the territory of another Nation or travelling through another Nation have to respect the laws of that Nation ..." and "16. this Treaty takes priority before all prior agreements between the signing Nations" http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16969/23 23 This especially will apply to any restrictions we Zorai might want to establish about dealings with Goo and maybe with living organisms (like termites altered by potions).

I have also asked the Taliari if they are still interested in phrasing a new free trade agreement on a national level. Governor Denen Toen had already voice his support on this topic as soon as Taliar Loth had mentioned it, and also Governor Ailan Mac'Kean said on Germinally 29th in the 4th cycle of AtysYear 2573 (OOC: June 26th 2013) in Windermeer that it sounds like a good thing but that the details will have to be discussed a lot. I totally agree with her on this! However up until now no official national decision was made and no proposal by the Taliari towards any other nation to talk about free trade...

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#27 [en] 

6. Law about Goo

To be on the sure side - which seems wise to me in this case - we will have to wait a while longer with a rephrasing of the Law until all uncertainties have been removed. I have pointed out the differences we have found to the Sage Gangi Cheng-Ho. He said he'd address them within the Council of the Elders. I hope he has already done so and we will hear more about it at the next Assembly. Otherwise we will have to wait until our honored Sages will come to terms about what to tell us and the public about this delicate and potentially dangerous topic.

I have read the article about scientific ethics with much interest and I thank you, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, for kindly translating it to the dialect of Min-Cho. The ethic principles of the N'ASA are admirable and fall into line with what most Zorai would call "wisdom" for sure. I am glad that these principles do not forbid to research the Goo at all costs, even examining it by looking at it... Maybe the place where to do experimentations (and where not!) should also be defined, especially when it's about Goo (and termites)?

As a side note I believe that the words of Tao Sian about research on the Goo (we cannot tell much about this dangerous topic to the public, not even Zorai) might be understood like "within the Theocracy nobody is allowed to research the Goo except for specific experts/scholars" (OOC: aka "NPCs / Event-characters only" :) ).

This would also explain why the tribe "Black Circles" has repeatedly tried to get permission to research the goo from the Theocracy http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/4/wiki/L_Tribes

(OOC: there is a small but very signficant difference between the German and the English version here: In English: "The tribe also excerces pressure on governments for goo study to be accepted so they can lawfully use the goo all over the planet without restraint."
Versus the (translated) German-version: "The tribe also exerts pressure on governments for THEIR (own) goo-studies to be accepted, ..." http://atys.ryzom.com/projects/pubde/wiki/Die_Stämme)

I will try to confirm this to be sure at the next Assembly. If this will prove true the Law will have to state that within the Witherings research on the Goo has to be specially permitted by the authorities in charge (most likely Tao Sian) and shall be forbidden to everyone else.

There might be some confusion why or if the Theocracy "allows" tribes in the Witherings to experiment with Goo - so we might have to make this clear too: experimentations like the Black Circles and maybe the Masters of the Goo are said to make are of course forbidden and even detested by the Theocracy. Also Goo-drugs like the Goo-Heads use are illegal and all Zorai shall be warned about these drugs as they can madden homins and in the end kill them. At least this warning should be placed in the law?

If asked we can tell homins from other nations that we Zorai have often tried to negotiate with the "goo-tribes" in the past, trying to persuade them to change their ways. We have also fought them repeatedly, which sadly has not made them stop, but has even caused them to threaten the Theocracy to spread Goo over large areas of the Witherings as a counter-measure and blackmail... Still I would not like to include this explanation of the last paragraph into the text of the law!

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#28 [en] 

Kamia'ata,

I am sorry to put this at the last time, but .... happenings happen.
So, here is a suggestion of phrasing for the law about Goo. It includes an introduction explaining motivation first, and then the law itself.
I tried to be short but accurate, avoiding things that are obvious. I think here at saying that people not following the law would lead to court proceeding ...
Well, I let you make your opinion.
The Goo is a plague for Atys and everything living on. Its corruption affects both physical envelope and spirit of those who let it reach them. Those who believe they use Goo actually let Goo use them.

So, according to the teaching of Kami and in the interest of Atys and of everything living on, the Zorai Theocracy forbids formally any act attempting to use the Goo in whatever end.

The only authorized actions on Goo are those which lead to its destruction, or in defect to decrease its spreading, according to the oath of fight against Goo of the people Zoraï.

So, the trade of Goo or any object containing or made from Goo is forbidden. The transport of Goo is strictly regulated in order to satisfy the previous paragraph.

As being written in dialect of Min-Cho, don't hesitate to point a mistake, or unapropriate use of words, if you see one.

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Fey-Lin Liang
Li'laï-ko
Talian-Zu

#29 [en] 

Atys'ata, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang!

Thank you for suggesting an alternative phrasing for this law after all this time.

I want to remind everyone that Hoi-Cho has proposed to pass this law on Fallenor 16th in the first cycle of Atys-Year 2572 (OOC: March 1st 2013) for the first time. Since then I have been trying to get opinions and response from the other cities.

Additions have been wished for by the Awakened Astarth (about research on the Goo!) and the Awakened Fey-Lin Liang (about Goo not being "goods" or "wares", how to handle Goo without being infected, and how to destroy Goo/have it destroyed). There was silence for a long time whenever I asked for opinions about my draft and the Sages have seemingly not taken a look at the drafts as well; later on also objections were voiced by Fey-Lin Liang...

Please know that a law much like the one that I proposed as my first draft has already been in force in Hoi-Cho before the second Great Swarming. So this law is a matter of concern not only for me but for my hometown - including my mentor and superior, the Awakened Sartyica, and all the other Awakened and Initiates who have gone missing before or during the second Great Swarming, but might return at any time. Also many homins on Atys speaking the dialect of Hoi-Cho have known this law for a long time.

And now a suggestion with nearly no reference to the text of Hoi-Cho is made, but a version with a lot of loopholes instead? Please understand that I cannot just meekly nod my head and say: "Yes, yes, let's just agree to Jen-Lai's phrasing of the law that leaves out an immensely large section of what we in Hoi-Cho have put much thought into, and also Awakened Astarths wishes. At least a law is passed at last.".

Unfortunately a quick approval is out of the question. And I will protest with all my might against any approval of Sages or other Awakened to this new version of the law from Jen-Lai and any votings done about this new law if my drafts that have been suggested repeatedly and have even been a matter of official petitions to the Sages long before that will be ignored by this.

You, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, did also not just quickly approve of any of the drafts that I have presented since Mystia 3, 1st AC 2572 (OOC: March 4th 2013) http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/110429 So as I have been made to wait and worry for this long the working-out of an exact phrasing can still wait a little longer.

Again I want to point out that this law shall inform all newcomers and visitors of the Witherings about unwritten rules that we Zorai think of as "obvious". We Zorai normally would not have need of such a law - which I remember that you, Awakened Fey-Lin Liang, have agreed to.

So I strongly refuse to leave out anything from this law that seems to be "obvious" to us Zorai. We have to take into account that other homins like Marauders think extremely differently and refugees from other countries might very well know nothing at all about our society and principles.

There is absolutely no reason for laws to be "short".
Instead it is very important to not leave big loopholes that could be abused.

So I will take your latest wished for additions into account and rephrase the latest draft to add this - this law will get even longer of course, but there is no harm done with that; since a law that all homins shall understand should also take all eventualities into account that we can think of.

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#30 [en] 

Here's my updated suggestion for the goo-bill - taking into account ALL the additions that have been wished for. Excluding the unanswered questions about Goo that Tao Sian or other officials will still have to clarify (how to handle Goo without being infected, how to destroy Goo):

The Goo is a manifestation of nothingness that threatens the equilibrium of the nature on Atys instead of being a part of it. The only wise way to handle Goo is to bring about its destruction and to decrease its spreading to protect nature.

Those who believe they use Goo actually let Goo use them. The corruption of the Goo affects both the physical shell and the spirit of those who deal with it. So, according to the teaching of the Kami and in the interest of Atys and of everything living on, the Zorai Theocracy forbids any action in attempt to use Goo for whatever the reason or purpose.

In detail the Theocracy hereby forbids the production, use, unauthorized possession, import, export, trading/transfer, advertising/offering of all kinds of objects, item-parts, fillings or components and the like, that are mixed, filled or processed with Goo of any kind in the Witherings.

The Theocracy especially strictly bans the use, equipping, producing and/or trading of weapons and munition made with or from Goo, as well as any kinds of drugs made of Goo.

Transportation of Goo-infected items, parts, fillings, Goo-drugs or the like through the Witherings is forbidden except for the purpose to deliver them to the officials in the capital city Zora. As Goo is a plaque for Atys and everything living on it, Goo-contaminated items, item-parts, fillings, Goo-drugs and so on of any kind are not to be seen as "wares" nor "goods".

Any counteracting against this law will lead to court proceedings and will be punished severely.

The Kamis have granted the task to fight against the Goo to the Zorai people but also ask all willing homins to dig up Goo and Goo-polluted materials from the bark of Atys in order to destroy the Goo. Goo and Goo-polluted materials can be brought to Zora and will be destroyed by the officials there.

Any sightings of Goo-polluted objects, item-parts or the like (especially weapons and ammunition) in the Witherings shall also be reported to the officials of the amber cities as quickly as possible.

Even though fire can be used to destroy Goo please refrain from using fire freely on the bark. Remember the fire of Coriolis; sap can be dangerously inflammable. Fire must never be allowed to spread on a large scale in the Witherings since this could severely damage nature and endanger many species.

Only specifically authorized official scholars of the Witherings are allowed to carefully research the Goo, as it is their task to do so. Interested scientists may ask Tao Sian, the first dynastic physician and renowned scholar, for permission and teachings about such research, to learn about the utmost caution that will be needed with respect for the nature of Atys.


About the "oath of fight against Goo of the people Zoraï": I was told that even Initiates do not have to swear to fight the Goo during their Initiation-ceremony (OOC: at least not in the German version). Maybe our officials think that this oath is not needed since all Zorai know the teachings of the Kamis from the time of our adoption-ceremony when we receive our masks. As I see it the necessity to fight against the Goo belongs to our principle of respect of nature anyways.

If there is still need of changes, additions or rephrasing (maybe it should be "Laï-le Ban" instead of "court"?) I'm of course willing to discuss any concern - not merely misspellings...

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