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How should the occupations/new horizons system behave?
occupations nh gives the fame, nation points, and dappers like before the patch
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nh give no fame, no nation points, and limited dappers like after the patch
Atys: Aleeskandaro, Hayt, Heernis, Lasabo, Maiyr, Mnemosyne, Naema, Northstar, Revvy, Sienn, Sukhamoy, Victoriacamper, Wilczek, Zendae		 14 (3)
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Atys: Gidget, Kaetemi, Laoviel, Luminatrix, Placio, Wirroy		 6
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#31 Added by Moniq 5 years ago [en] 

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@Gidget I am sorry for you, it must be misery to be you in the world where everyone is against your geniality. Fool me.

#32 Added by Placio 5 years ago [en] 

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Laoviel
...that's not nearly enough considering they have a cooldown of .. what, 5 minutes? And they require you to sit down while you consume them, so you can't even pop one during a kill. Relying on healers is ... well, far more reliable.

So, sorry, but taking away their use as dapper-earners without proposing a rebalance/rework of the occupations was not entirely towards a good game balance.

You may have seen another announcement explaining that the rebalance/rework is coming, but maybe your comment highlights a need to rebalance the occ products to be more useful???

#33 Added by Naema 5 years ago [en] 

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No i think occupations are interesting, take it as a side quests to get uncommon items.
That should not be removed really :)

+1 I agree.

I really liked doing the Occupations, at first I didn't, but later I really got into it just for the sake of doing them. It was fun! I mastered them all, except Water Carrier, because, yes, I kept it at grade 2 to get sap crystals via NH.
But it doesn't make sense to me to get all this stuff from New Horizons. They are supposed to be a transport company sending you to places around a territory with their Mektoubs aren't they? Then why get fame, sap crystals, or even dappers from them? Don't we pay them to transport us? For Occ items? Why are we giving them Occ items? It seems to make more sense to have some mission giver either in the cities or outside who we could do all this 'business' with Lore-wise. And, now that we have the Ranger Pathways, do we really need NH? Or are they supposed to be a general merchandising business group? I say we give it a chance. Let them improve the mission givers.
And if you want dappers, heck, get to work and level up your crafting. I busted my butt to level up my crafting to be able to make big dappers now, you can too!

#34 Added by Revvy 5 years ago [en] 

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Laoviel
As for the rest, sorry, but I never could fit them in my playstyle. MC/WC level 6 products restore some hitpoints, maybe half of a master; that's not nearly enough considering they have a cooldown of .. what, 5 minutes? And they require you to sit down while you consume them, so you can't even pop one during a kill. Relying on healers is ... well, far more reliable.
Yes.. i explained why it doesn't fit in the gameplay of anyone and won't ever in this state :P


Naema
And, now that we have the Ranger Pathways, do we really need NH?
Ofc we need it lol (cf. end of the post)

So yes, Kami need New Horizon Transport in Lake and Forest, while Karavan need it in Desert and Jungle.


I never saw any Ranger Pathways availabe for Homins.
Why ? A tunnel is a tunnel, it should be available for homins ;)
Boo boo :)

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#35 Added by Maiyr 5 years ago [en] 

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It makes far more sense to me to have a system that allows players to gain fame and faction points through missions *for* a civilization by doing said missions *from* members of the civilization than by selling products to a company that is totally separate from the civilization.

I think people should give the Devs a chance to boost the mission payouts. I do not like that the patch was only half implemented, however, at least there are plans to implement the buffs to the missions in the future.

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#36 Added by Gidget 5 years ago [en] 

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Maiyr
It makes far more sense to me to have a system that allows players to gain fame and faction points through missions *for* a civilization by doing said missions *from* members of the civilization than by selling products to a company that is totally seperate from the civilization.

I think people should give the Devs a chance to boost the mission payouts. I do not like the the patch was only half implemented, however, at least there are plans to implement the buffs to the missions in the future.

Yes, the half-measure implementation is borderline-offensive, but even worse is the fact that so many in the community are so derogatory towards those who complain about the change. After that and a few years of similar behavior, it's pretty obvious that the server has been split since Merge.

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#37 Added by Placio 5 years ago [en] 

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Before this takeover, NH were supposed to be part of each Nation- hence why they granted the local fame.
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