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Is that a good idea? / Ist das eine gute Idee? / C'est une bonne idée ?
Yes (Write what could develop positively) / Ja (Schreib, was sich positiv entwickeln könnte) / Oui (Écrivez ce qui pourrait évoluer positivement)
Atys: Gidget, Jahuu, Kaetemi, Luminatrix, Yper
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20.8%
No (write what would be wrong with it) / Nein (Schreib, was falsch daran wäre) / Non (écrivez ce qui ne va pas avec)
Atys: Aleeskandaro, Azazor, Bradbreddan, Dukenono, Hayt, Lacuna, Mermaidia, Naveruss, Revvy, Sinvaders, Sowen, Syron, Timna, Vauban
14 (4)
58.3%
Other thoughts (write it down) / Andere Gedanken (Schreib es auf) / Autres pensées (écrivez-les)
Atys: Agy, Balkhog, Heernis, Placio
4
16.7%
Other
Atys: Dorothee
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4.2%
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#113 [en] 

Gidget

Fyrosfreddy - I did not mean to argue against what you said, merely express skepticism that your words would matter to those who refuse to change their thinking no matter how many facts or how much logic is used. To them, the Lore that was written 15 + years ago is inviolable and immutable....

It would appear that we are violently in agreement with each other in this respect.

If you are celebrating something start planning an event at your favorite restaurant and then as you make your invitation list, you realize that the people you wanna invite include

31 folks will eat anything
11 don't eat red meat but eat chicken
9 don't eat red / white meat
3 are vegan
4 have gluten allergies
2 have nut allergies

Do you stick with a restaurant you like best ? Or you pick a restaurant that can accommodate all the people who you want to be there.

If a bunch or Aqua-people and sea creatures were to appear ... is that a dead idea because it's not mentioned in the lore ? A few strokes of the pen (or strikes on a KB) could solve that in an hour.

So with Rangers being, by far, the fast growing faction ... if it's between keeping the lore and keeping the player base, the lore has go to evolve. And that goes both ways. If someone wants to be a ranger and wants to PvP, I am not a fan of restricting that option because of "lore". Guilds of course have a right to decide whether that is what they are going to be about, but game mechanics should not.

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#114 [en] 

I still can't believe the direction taken here.
They created a faction just to throw it to trash for years, and instead put all their effort to create a new faction(lol?) that came randomly from an event.
(I abuse with randomly/event, but you got it).

Make no sense really to put so much effort in not finishing anything.
Thanks to the new ARK the new-new faction did grow faster at least, and wasn't throw to trash like Marauder.

Fyrosfreddy
So with Rangers being, by far, the fast growing faction ... if it's between keeping the lore and keeping the player base, the lore has go to evolve. And that goes both ways. If someone wants to be a ranger and wants to PvP, I am not a fan of restricting that option because of "lore". Guilds of course have a right to decide whether that is what they are going to be about, but game mechanics should not.

True, nothing exclude a Ranger to attack another Homins.

This is just the common idea lately, that if you are a Ranger you should be a saint :P
Violence you will know only against your foe kittins and nothing else.

Ranger are Homins, Homins are violent and this nature itself create conflicts.

Remind me of this Ranger guild accepting an Outpost with all the consequence and clicking on Neutral the day they had to defend it.... im still laughing.

The legend don't tell if it is because of the option "Neutral" or by real ideology.

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#115 [en] 

Revvy
Remind me of this Ranger guild accepting an Outpost with all the consequence and clicking on Neutral the day they had to defend it.... im still laughing.

It's just because they think that they deserves pieces of the cake without having to put effort into it. (they are willing to get stuff from PvP content without PvP).

#116 [en] 

Sinvaders
It's just because they think that they deserves pieces of the cake without having to put effort into it. (they are willing to get stuff from PvP content without PvP).

It seem to be the tendency yes.

I can access everything, for free without any implication of my part because I'm neutral;
I deserve it.

Anyway :)

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#117 [en] 

Revvy - Thank you for supporting the argument that Ryzom was never meant for play by those outside the country it was developed in; that any attempt at appealing to other markets is seen as a flaw.

Sinvaders - Not really. But I can see how those who have a "Might makes right" attitude would prefer an RPG where there's a faction with that same attitude as a central tenet. And it's no surprise such players would seek to have the mechanics altered such that their preferred play style is given preferential treatment, or that those folks would accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of.

It amuses me that some folks are bent out of shape over an OP being obtained via RP instead of PvP. Maybe those folks are in the wrong genre? This isn't 2006; there's plenty of MOBAs out there for them. Look at what happened on Arispotle when PvP became a thing and remember that you share a server with folks like that. Folks who think "Neutral" is, by definition, an open-minded lack of bias.

If people can't respect their differences, they cannot respect people who are different. As one who believes in reciprocity, I feel those folks deserve any disrespect they get;actions have consequences.

Edited 3 times | Last edited by Gidget (5 years ago)

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