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#16 Report | Quote[en] 

Sittingbull (atys)
Mais rien a foutre du drapeau !!!!
I'm telling you the cap should have stayed 275 and the resist factor was to be fixed. You want to have 75% resist at 275, not at 300. Otherwise the whole thing doesn't work as it should.

May I inquire as to your source for saying that? Are you the dev that wrote the code? If you are not, then you don't know how it *should* work.

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Remembering Tyneetryk
Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
<clowns | me & you | jokers>

#17 Report | Quote[en] 

I know Bitty...I know you wanna know...
I ain't gonna give it all away, that's why i won't display any mats.
But i hope the image below will inspire you.

With that recipe you need 4 extra jewels. One to swap with another, on entering a different domain then your racial one. Entering another domain, would make you an invader and you get -10pts. replacing the jewel with same protection but other resist would compensate that.

278 -10 = 268
268 +7 = 275 !!!

As you can see, there are still some points in desert resist. Replace those and put them in two domains of your choice, and you will be left with two jewels to swap, as you would have two domains already over capped.

There is also something written in the story line about two jewels...



The fact is that there is a huge problem with the Bosses and how to get those mats. Instead of doing some real development, add difficulty in a fun way, they choose to stretch spawn times, alter timers averagely etc, etc... The lack of mats is why players started to make jewels with 3 resists max and 2 max protections. And now they made it general, which again shows how poorness of technicality and creativity and what a lousy management that is f*****g up this game.

#18 Report | Quote[en] 

Do you see how well balanced this is?
You and i, we both know that 2x an 8 and a 7 get your jewel the best boost.

At high QL250 you can not afford basic, fine or choice mats. You need supreme and eventually exe. Otherwise you downgrade the values too much.

No need to go BQ or lvl 200, when you can have the best there is in a old fashion way. The way it was before tools that boosted crafts.

Good luck with getting 3 resists at 300...

#19 Report | Quote[fr] 

You're trolling, yes?

Last edited by Lacuna (9 years ago)

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#20 Report | Quote[en] 

But you still haven't shown me that either way is the way it *should* work! The word *should* implies intent on the part of someone who designed a system. How it *does* work is a product of the system as currently implemented, and the correction that was made merely changed the display so that it showed the actual results as the system is (and I believe always has been) working.

The fact that the system has a certain elegance when the cap is 275 does NOT mean that the system *should* work that way, only that the elegance would be present if it *did* work that way.

In similar manner it has been observed that the display of success percentage in crafting with scrolls is not correct, but tests have shown that the scrolls *do* work as the text in the scrolls says they do. They increase the effective level of the craftshomin rather than increasing the percentage chance of success. So: Which is the way the scrolls *should* work? The text on the scroll says one thing and the display says another.

Answer: From the facts given above I don't know. I am not the person who designed the system. From having talked to ulukyn (who is a dev), I know that the increase in craft levels is the way that it was intended to work, i.e. how it *should* work.

Last edited by Bitttymacod (9 years ago)

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Remembering Tyneetryk
Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
<clowns | me & you | jokers>

#21 Report | Quote[en] 

Well i thought you would agree how obvious it was that 275 cap would allow you to cap 4 domains. Leaving you to protect yourself against your racial element and not resisting it. Your +20 racial pts promoting this.

The number of points available fits this model perfectly.
A cap at 300 breaks down this harmony.
Why wouldn't you recognize that something this accurate and simple is meant to be?

Whether or not you see through this and the general way that the game is being managed regarding other issues is personal.

I'm done here...

Greetings,

SB

#22 Report | Quote[en] 

Sittingbull (atys)
Well i thought you would agree how obvious it was that 275 cap would allow you to cap 4 domains. Leaving you to protect yourself against your racial element and not resisting it. Your +20 racial pts promoting this.

The number of points available fits this model perfectly.
A cap at 300 breaks down this harmony.
Why wouldn't you recognize that something this accurate and simple is meant to be?

That argument can be used to say that since making pi=24/7 would be far more elegant since there are 24 hours in the day and 7 days in the week, therefore pi=24/7 instead of the totally irrational value that it is.

It also doesn't account for the displayed perversity of the original developers of this game.


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[Note: pi is actually approximated by 22/7, but it's still only approximate.]

Last edited by Bitttymacod (9 years ago)

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Remembering Tyneetryk
Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
<clowns | me & you | jokers>

#23 Report | Quote[en] 

In similar manner it has been observed that the display of success percentage in crafting with scrolls is not correct, but tests have shown that the scrolls *do* work as the text in the scrolls says they do. They increase the effective level of the craftshomin rather than increasing the percentage chance of success. So: Which is the way the scrolls *should* work? The text on the scroll says one thing and the display says another.
This display bug has been fixed in ryzomcore code a long time ago btw

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#24 Report | Quote[fr] 

théoriquement on peut atteindre 304 sur 3 domaines, qui couvriront 4 ou 5 sorts de magie offensive (il faut au moins lac ou prime)
toujours en théorie on peut avoir 70% de protec sur les deux ou trois sorts des domaines restants.

et sinon 3x 294 c'est facile.

Last edited by Zendae (9 years ago)

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Beauté, curiosité, virtuosité !

#25 Report | Quote[fr] 

De toute façon la mechanique du jeu tourne autour de 200 pas 250 c'est fait expres de pas pouvoir tout avoir en même temps à fond en 250.

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Les rêveries du yubo flaneur
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#26 Report | Quote[en] 

"You want to have 75% resist at 275"


Sorry, but please think about what you say before you say it.

#27 Report | Quote[fr] 

J'ai une recette désert lac prime à 300 et une autre forêt jungle prime à 300 avec les protection adequates. Aussi si tu as du mal avec tes recettes spa notre problème... Si tu as du mal à faire les rois ce n'est pas notre problème non plus.....

Last edited by Nizyros (9 years ago)

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#28 Report | Quote[en] 

Vous le faites express ou quoi???

You're all right and i have no clue about what i'm talking about...




Si tu ne comprends pas l'anglais... spa mon probleme...

Last edited by Sittingbull (9 years ago)

#29 Report | Quote[fr] 

Cette personne est-elle bouchée ? en plus d'être affreusement agressive ?

#30 Report | Quote[fr] 

Sobek (atys)
Cette personne est-elle bouchée ? en plus d'être affreusement agressive ?
Pourquoi le relancer ?

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