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#39 [en] 

I wonder if Virg has begun to lose his memory...

There were several very successful events involving marauders: kidnapping of a tryker, nine mektoubs, and the recovery of said mektoubs. You were still mostly a kami then. You and I actually formed a small league to attempt to foil the marauder plans in the desert as they were stealing materials from the kitin camps. We stood no chance against the marauders, but it was our duty to try, and we gave maras quite a few free pvp points, which were later returned when a huge league from all of Atys absolutely overpowered the Mara camp.

I don't think that marauders should be treated so harshly and unequally in regard to the invincible guards, etc. but I can tell you that a large number of participants in atys politics are wimps and every meeting would be wiped if not for extra security. Homins have become fat and lazy, not willing to fight for what they believe in, an anti-faction such as marauders is needed to actually give some legitimate conflict and meaning to our actions in this world. If marauders are not welcome at an event for rp reasons then someone should pvp tag and kill them! The marauders should also rp that once they are killed they can't magically attack the same meeting every five minutes... But yes as long as the event is able to be held, people need to toughen up. Calling for reinforcements should be a last resort.

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#40 [en] 

How long ago was that Placio? I do remember it. It was ages ago.

You know what I can't even be bothered to discuss this anymore. I hope people actually read what I have been typing rather than just trying to formulate arguments against what I have said without actually understanding the basis of why I am saying it.

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#41 [en] 

Virg (atys)
...but the actual player themselves does not want to involve them.

You think its unreasonably? Don't you think its because some players are just annoying? I'm not saying about all marauders, but just about some of those who are well known :) Running around homins and all they are talking about - its pvp-pvp-pvp-pvp... Sometimes without any RP content at all. So yes, its kinda annoying ;)
And they are dont care whom to fight with. I remember when I just came from Silan in my cool green Rangers armor, with a big Fire&Wrath sword in my hand and I meet some little matis marauder. Do you know what I got from him? Yes, duel proposal. xD Im sure that player know what does Rangers Armor and F&W sword mean. And I think he know what are my levels approximately. But he just wanted to pvp, thats all. It looks kinda self-affirmation, don't you think so? ;)
So its not looks strange for me why dont other players want to play their games with maras :P

And if you will try to tell me that pvp is just a part of marauders RP - I will quote you:
Virg (atys)
Say it like it is, don't hide behind the context of RP.

#42 [en] 

Hmmm... Ages ago = 10.5 months, and I would agree that 9 Mektoubs was the last event to involve Rangers as a major force.

Since then we have had the final closure of the Kitins mounds, a silly Tryker event called Diamonds in the Sky involving blowing things up (yay), Night of Stars (and the followup), and two moderately large OOC events, none of which excluded Marauders.

The Mara camp also got some upgrades (at long last), including a bar. I would say that the bar might be due to a particular ET person who saw a solution (and had enough skill in ARK) when other ET people may not have had that skill, nor programming people an understanding of what was needed. I note that there seems to be a lot more stuff happening in general. I do have hope.

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#43 [en] 

Marazmatic (atys)
Virg (atys)
...but the actual player themselves does not want to involve them.

You think its unreasonably? Don't you think its because some players are just annoying? I'm not saying about all marauders, but just about some of those who are well known :) Running around homins and all they are talking about - its pvp-pvp-pvp-pvp... Sometimes without any RP content at all. So yes, its kinda annoying ;)
And they are dont care whom to fight with. I remember when I just came from Silan in my cool green Rangers armor, with a big Fire&Wrath sword in my hand and I meet some little matis marauder. Do you know what I got from him? Yes, duel proposal. xD Im sure that player know what does Rangers Armor and F&W sword mean. And I think he know what are my levels approximately. But he just wanted to pvp, thats all. It looks kinda self-affirmation, don't you think so? ;)
So its not looks strange for me why dont other players want to play their games with maras :P

And if you will try to tell me that pvp is just a part of marauders RP - I will quote you:
Virg (atys)
Say it like it is, don't hide behind the context of RP.


Sorry, but that is just plain silly .. you get hit on by a troll wanting to duel (probs not even a marauder) and blame/hate the whole marauder faction for it. So it does not look strange to you, that therefore other players do not want to play with marauders? Well, you are totally welcome to your prejudice. But trust me, there are plenty of trolls in all the other factions too, has nothing to do with being marauder or not. So please, dont just be prejudiced on us .. be prejudiced on all the factions/nations .. hence .. play the game ON YOUR OWN.

As to the event ...

I guess, one has to distinguish what this event is about ... is it about finding the "best" fighter (as a tournament of fighters would) or is it about implementing some "action" in the rp play of the matis nobels. In my opinion, if it really is about a melee tournament and finding the best fighter, you are cheating by excluding two of the factions/nations that pvp most (fyros kami and marauders). If its about the roleplay actually - and I sure hope it is, cause I (me, myself, NOT my rp character) would really not like to be excluded on purpose - i understand that fyros and marauders do not get invited (for roleplay reasons). BUT - and there is always a but, right? - I will say this again and again - in a gaming community as small as ours, people should really try hard to adapt and change the rp to be able to include all the gamers .. cause any event will be even better the more people get there and have fun together, no? Stories are there to be told, to be switched, swapped, up'd and down'd, and rewritten again and again. If you WANT to be flexible and play with ALL the gamers .. you can! The rp is as flexible as the stories in your head ... work and change with them.

Just my thoughts on the matter ..

Peace!

Seralee :-)

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