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#346 Report | Quote[en] 

Well, in this case the variety of "levels" found in our existing characters becomes a boon for testing means...not many alphas get to start with such a diverse testing group. We then would have a choice to play our characters on the experimental server, or start over on the more stable official server that is allowed to cherry pick the best developments from the experimental server as well as receive official development.. Preferably people would be able to create and play new characters on both as a way to try and vote on new features.

I like the idea of WG combining the servers...after a period of cognitive dissonance, we will find equilibrium. And our stories will converge. The increase population will only be for the better in my opinion. I wish they would leave the leveling rate as is and cut the unsubbed rate in 1/2 though. And I am not against the removal of cats, I never really used them anyways except for crafting.

#347 Report | Quote[en] 

Maybe a combined effort from WG and a community server with events would be a good way.
Take the ideas of some horrible plague or massive Kitin invasion drove Hominkind to a new land.
The hard part would be for WG to make a player wipe on the Ryzom proper server correlate to a story line.
Maybe a retreat of the remaining Homins to Silan to regroup and gain ground to fight back when the Kitins think it is over. (rough ideas but I think that could be a starter point for other creative thoughts).

This would support the idea of a player server based off open source needs to be "new" to comply with the open source license.

#348 Report | Quote[en] 

"..... it frightened me. I saw myself standing there in my refugee outfit with no weapon, no amps, no armor and (ugh) no TPs. "

I wish advanced players could remember the great team play and the relativity of skill level. A job your size is always doable. As a level 20 player, there are still opportunities to help other players and practice one's own strengths. Many of us newbs (me less than a year) have appriciated a skillful player our own levels helping us with good strategy more than some advanced help based on brute strength alone. And it is in the trekking over land that Atys' beuaty is brightest. I say all this because although I have always appreciated so many players helping me, I have also had toons hurt by elitism. I speak emphatically because if we are so unhappy with the idea of being a newb, it might contribute to more pity than respect for those that are newbs now.

#349 Report | Quote[en] 

a testing server would save time and support costs, but do you really think paid players are going to stand for their characters being relegated to testing when an option to transfer them existed?? I think not...

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no, not in favor of "twinking" or "power lvling" just to gain levels quickly (which is the type of play the current plan encourages). ryzom has and can do much better than that...

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#350 Report | Quote[en] 

This might be Laom, but I have been playing Ryzom since a year after release and I only have one skill over 200...and it is not a Master...because I do not play to grind nor grind to play. I play to have fun and if levels happen, great. I think it is important to remember that not all vets are advanced players are elitists...nor do they all have 60 masters. But, even though I might not have any masters, I do have 5 or so years of gained experience with my character. I have no interest in either grinding or waiting another 5 years to enjoy the content I can enjoy now. And I have only found the necessity for team work and cooperation increase as I have gained levels.

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#351 Report | Quote[en] 

Read most of the posts here, and yeah, the wipe idea kinda sucks... but...

I could certainly get along with the idea of restarting if a few other things change as well.  Material locations, critters, etc.  That'd be the only way in my mind to make it fun again, and even the playing field a tad for vet and newbie alike.

One of the fondest moments I have of the game goes way make to November of 2004, right around Thanksgiving time.  Was bored and killing some time, met up with Gfunk and we tried to run through Loria...  Now a days a walk, or rather tour, of Loria will also include mat locations, watch out for this critters path here, that one over there and so on.

Move everything around, change zone levels, add some rare hard to get to supreme spots above ground, have a KP occasionally visit the stables for a snack...

No need to say it, I'll head back to my corner now.

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#352 Report | Quote[en] 

Times sure have changed. I remember when Ryzom was going thru bankruptcy a lot of us were just hoping we'ld get Ryzom back in some form.
At least Winchgate isn't ( as far as we know ) waiting till they are out of money and have to go into bankruptcy.
I doubt Winchgate is doing this lightly or just to maximize profits, they most likely feel they really need to do it in order to have a chance to develop Ryzom they way they would like to.
It's very hard to take a character wipe, certainly gonna be tough for me.
However, after I just accepted that Winchgate would most likely go thru with their stated plans -- I sort of got excited about the prospect of starting up new on a fresh server, and I'm getting more and more excited about it myself.
I just remember it could be a lot worse with maybe a year tied up in bankruptcy courts and then a new company ( if we are lucky ) and then maybe a fresh restart anyways.

#353 Report | Quote[en] 

That is a good point Glaz...while I have no interest in starting over, I wish those who think it would be fun the best of luck...and if they decide to continue along their planned trajectory, I wish the community and WG the best of luck.

My concern, if that is your interest...starting over, even if they let us keep our levels, you are always welcome to delete them and start over if that is what you are excited for. One option allows for both...the other limits options to the most limiting one. Why you would not err on the side of allowing customers the greatest options is beyond me.

#354 Report | Quote[en] 

Glaz
Times sure have changed. I remember when Ryzom was going thru bankruptcy a lot of us were just hoping we'ld get Ryzom back in some form.
At least Winchgate isn't ( as far as we know ) waiting till they are out of money and have to go into bankruptcy.
I doubt Winchgate is doing this lightly or just to maximize profits, they most likely feel they really need to do it in order to have a chance to develop Ryzom they way they would like to.
It's very hard to take a character wipe, certainly gonna be tough for me.
However, after I just accepted that Winchgate would most likely go thru with their stated plans -- I sort of got excited about the prospect of starting up new on a fresh server, and I'm getting more and more excited about it myself.
I just remember it could be a lot worse with maybe a year tied up in bankruptcy courts and then a new company ( if we are lucky ) and then maybe a fresh restart anyways.

I hate to say this as Ill just get flamed again im sure but someone needs to...

Ryzom will _NEVER_ be what WG wants it to be. It will Never be popular. It was always be novelty. This is the year 2012 folx. The competition will just smash ryzom into utter obvlivion without even trying. The MMO on my phone has 100x more subscribers lol.

None of this is a bad thing. Its what I love MOST about Ryzom. I dont want to login to Ryzom and have it feel like im in Stormwind. But the thought that WG has a chance here and thats the reasons for these changes is just unreasonable.

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#356 Report | Quote[en] 

Danto
Yumeroh (Aniro)
Hello,

The whole Ryzom team was deeply touched by your general mobilization. We have read your many posts throughout the weekend.

Please remember that whatever your discontent every individual deserves respect. Slurs and other inappropriate comments are not acceptable.

We met this morning to consider the issue and take into account your remarks.

We still need time to find a viable solution and we will get back to you with a news as complete as possible in the coming days. Until then, the events for these next 2 weeks are continuing as planned.

Let us know if is anything else we can do. I'll keep loyal to Ryzom.

"May the Force be with you" :)

^ This made me laugh. I'm not sure if it wasn't intentional but, hehe.

#357 Report | Quote[en] 

Loryen
This might be Laom, but I have been playing Ryzom since a year after release and I only have one skill over 200...and it is not a Master...because I do not play to grind nor grind to play. I play to have fun and if levels happen, great. I think it is important to remember that not all vets are advanced players are elitists...nor do they all have 60 masters. But, even though I might not have any masters, I do have 5 or so years of gained experience with my character. I have no interest in either grinding or waiting another 5 years to enjoy the content I can enjoy now. And I have only found the necessity for team work and cooperation increase as I have gained levels.

Almost exactly the same as me, although my one skill over 200 - Healing - was maximised to 250 during the time my order was still there and we participated in OP fights to keep the Kamists out of Matia. On the other hand, I'm playing my character since 7 years now - it's still my first. And the main reason I'm still playing (apart from loving beautiful Matia) is that I have a biography, shaped since and because the Karavaneer lost the Temple Wars (on Leanon, that is), and that led Salazar to his development as a historian and politician and made him a Filira. After the merge, there can't be any historians, to start with, for our server's histories differ. There won't be any politics. Outside that space, which I fill as good as I can, I'm a loner, since almost all my friends left Atys ages ago. Almost all my team work I do on a RP level. After the merge I can only play a beggar with his tongue cut out.

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#358 Report | Quote[en] 

Ulykus
Wen
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Just dont get one did i need pay for month to join 22th and enjoy to rest?
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No. You can either successfully take part in one of the events during these two weeks OR subscribe your account to get a starter pack.

In other words:

If you want to get a starter pack...

- Free Accounts need to qualify by completing (not necessarily winning) one event.
- Subscribed (paid) accounts don't need to qualify, they get starter packs on all toons.

Of course you can start fresh without starter pack too.

Interesting how can i log to server and enjoy event days if my accaunt not active last subscribe was year ago :D
That why i sak so i must subscribe for month or how u like to call it to log the server and 22th die with server.

Last edited by Wen (1 decade ago)

#359 Report | Quote[en] 

Actualy servers was marge once as i remember! long time ago was 3 en, 3 gr, 3 fr servers and old game owners merge to 1 en, 1 gr, 1 fr as its now and noone didnt lose anything just rest all outposts.

Certainly an interesting idea to start everything from zero, to all players have an equal chance....but its up to Dev group :D


GoJ on my heart!

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Wen (1 decade ago)

#360 Report | Quote[en] 

All ppl who are okay with wipe don't understand one thing, it's not about losing goodies or even levels or even stories all that can be rebuilt I believe - it's all about losing time. Any of u "let's wipe!" folks have 5 digging masters? several craft masters? u know how much time and effort it takes to get those? Yes I can easily see me run around as newbie and with my many years experience I will be very successful newbie u can bet :) I will do so on my free to play account, will socialize, help with little heals or sneaky treks or knowledge but I would never pay again to build a multi-master character and money is a key point here right? For the company at least =)
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