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Well, when I finally decided to leave Silan, I was trying to decide which capital city to go to. Anyways, I chose Tryker. It seemed like a good idea at the time, and still may not be a bad one: I like the Tryker people a lot, I like the looks of some of their stuff, it's a nice tropical location and I thought I read something about it being a good starting place.

I read somewhere on the forums that it was an easy enough place to start and that the Fyros Capital city was one of the hardest to start off in and also is the Matis capital city, and when I asked on the universe chat, everyone seemed to like the idea of me going there (but then again, some of them could have been lying), so I went.

Now, I'm having to try and hunt down mobs from level 8 to level 23 while avoiding crab-like mobs that are like level 35, and they are all nearly in the same small spot.

I met a Fyros woman there, but I can't remember her name. She told me that the Tryker capital city is actually one of the hardest places to start off at, and that the Matis capital city is almost just as hard. She also told me that Karavan people often say that their territories (or something like that) are easy to start off in, but it's not true.

She offered to help me trek to the Fyros capital city, but every time I log on, she's soon going to bed.

You see, I try to play during the afternoon, but it's usually near impossible. Either, I'm busy doing homework, doing chores, watching my baby sister, going for a walk outside or I'm trying to get information kind of like what I'm doing now. So, the only times I get to play is between 9:00 PM - 2:00 AM (if my baby sister goes to sleep before then and stays asleep) and, on Saturdays and Sundays, from sometime really early like 4:00 AM, 5:00 AM or 6:00 AM till about whenever everyone wake up.

So, if anyone is one during those times at least on Saturdays and Sundays, the help really would be appreciated, and just in case I can't find help and lose my patience, how hard is it to trek on foot, by myself, with only level 23 offensive and defensive magic and level 28 melee fight?

I also remember reading something about scheduled treks for newcomers. I might look some more into that. Sounds like a good way for me to see more of the land and reach my destination.

Also, since I most likely won't be leaving Tryker Land anytime soon, I'm thinking about learning how to craft Tryker weapons. I don't already know how to craft Fyros weapons, and I like the looks of the Tryker magic amplifiers and bow pistols, but I also like the looks of some Fyros weapons more, and Fyros magic amplifiers also look pretty cool.

I'm also interested in learning how to craft Matis light pants, but I'm not sure if it's worth 50 skill points just to get started and then 20 or 25 skill points to learn the plan for Matis light pants.

Only problem, is that I'm not sure what they all look like and whether or not if I want to craft Fyros or Tryker weapons or if it's worth learning how to craft Matis light pants. Getting resources to craft to level up my crafting skills isn't easy. I kinda suck at foraging, and killing mobs for resources is much quicker. However, it's a bit harder to do that when I'm a bit limited on where I can go and hunt.

It would be nice if I could get pictures of some stuff to see what they look like ahead of time. I can do this with items in shops and in my inventory, but not with plans.

I've tried looking in the wiki, but it hasn't been very helpful as far as item info goes. I do however, remember seeing some websites devoted to the game, but I can't remember all of their names.

So, basically, what I want to know is these:

What capital city is best to start off at as a Fyros person?

Can someone help me get there?

If not, how difficult would the journey be on foot for someone with my levels?

Is there a data base or something to show me what certain things I can craft with certain plans look like?

Is it worth investing over 50 crafting skill points just to learn how to craft light Matis style pants? ( I feel I already know the answer to that one)

Did I leave anything out?

Also, she said that the Kami faction are a rather friendly community and that the Karavan seem nice at first, but once you join, you're on your own most of the time. Is this true in your experience and opinion?

Hope I can help answer your questions and straighten out the misinformation you received.

1. Trykers rock!! Ok, I maybe a bit biased on this issue, but the Lakes are a great place to live and the Tryker guilds are pretty tight group in their own right.
2. In regard to easy starting place, each starter city has its merits. It is usually easier to find teams in the Lakes and perhaps that was the perspective of the information given to you. There are easy locations in all the starter areas to work on your levels, it is a matter of finding them or having someone give you the 2 dapper tour.
3. As far as trekking, Ballistic Mystix, does lead a regular trek on most Tuesday evenings US. There is also a scheduled trek on Saturdays evenings EU lead by Pheadras Tears. I even heard tell of a regular Friday trek being organized (not sure what time). Also, if you join a guild, they should help you get trekked around as well. Not to even mention that many individuals would be glad to help schedule a time if available. Keep in mind, many individuals cannot always drop what they are doing to help. Though you stated the times you were available, you did not state your timezone, that would help those of us reading the forums to make an informed decision. You can trek yourself at level 28, but without prior knowledge to the areas you would have to go through might prove to be very difficult. It would help to have the Speed and Invulnerability Auras to get through some of the more difficult areas.
4. Crafting for other racial plans requires that you go to that nation to get the plans. Until you are trekked you will be limited to Tryker plans only. To see what various plans and colors as well as the required resources, www.ballisticmystix.net site has a dressing room and resource database that is helpful.
5. As far as your personal crafting, it is all your choice where you want to spend your points, but most people pick one area to concentrate in and level it up. If you join a guild there may be an area that you could help fill and you might want to wait to pick your area of concentration if you are not sure what you would like to do.
6. I would say that the Kami/Karavan information you were given is completely incorrect. It really depends on the guild you join, if any, and the people you hang with. There are many helpful Kami and Karavan and some that are not I am not sure why this would even be said along faction lines. My experience is that if you find yourself a group that you enjoy playing with (not just the ones who give you more candy to get you to join), in or out of a guild, they will always be helpful to you.

Hope this helps you out and welcome to the Lakes!

It depends mostly on crafting. If you like to craft, it would be best to start off in your racial capital (Pyr for Fyros) for ease of access to crafting plans. Early on, it will be difficult to switch to a new racial pattern, but that becomes easier over time.

Otherwise, Lakes is a good place to level. There is the huge advantage of having water everywhere, which helps you run from aggro, but like you mentioned, there are a lot of things that want to eat you. Jungle may perhaps be one of the easier lands for a player completely new to the game. Until you're comfortable with sneaking around safely between groups of aggressive creatures, avoid the Forest.


BallisticMystix holds a weekly trek on Tuesday evenings, east coast US time. It sounds like you're familiar with this one.

Phaedreas Tears is also running a weekly trek, though I haven't seen the advertisements or forums posts enough to remember the details. Search the forums for announcements or ask about the PT treks.


Going from Lakes to Desert is possible, if you go through the portal in Bounty Beaches, west through an area of the Prime Roots into the Jungle, and then from there to the Desert. You absolutely CAN sneak the whole way through, if you are patient enough ... even through Bounty Beaches, which is renowned for its walls of aggro.

You cannot sneak through Heretic's Hovel in the Forest. You -might- be able to use an Invulnerability aura, Melee Protection Aura, and Speeding Up in various combinations to run through bottlenecks filled with aggro, if you know where the pools of water are. You may not have those abilities, or may not have them at sufficient levels to make that a successful journey, however.

If you are truly new to the game, this will seem a very difficult challenge. You'll see a lot of nice things (especially the Prime Roots), and learn how much patience you have =)


BallisticMystix have a dressing room on their website: http://ballisticmystix.net/?p=dressingRoom


My personal opinion is that it is not worth it. Right now. But I also don't like the Matis styles, so that could influence my opinion.

If it is important to you, then yes it's worth it. It will take points from at least 8 crafting levels, to reach q10 Matis LA crafting with the LA Pants pattern. Again, with patience, it's not that big of an obstacle to overcome.

Ultimately, don't let anyone tell you that it's wrong for you to do. Only you can make that decision. It may not be the most efficient option if you want to maximize experience and leveling, but not everyone plays the game for maximum efficiency.


You'll get all sorts of answers on this one =)

I am Kami, so I should be expected to say that we are the best, blah blah. But in reality, it boils down to those you call friends. For now, I would strongly encourage you to stay neutral, even if being Fyros gives you a leg up on becoming Kami -- being Matis gave me an edge on becoming Karavan, but I chose Kami because of my friends. Read through posts in the forums to see how the various people respond, to get an idea of what many of the people are like, which can also give you an idea of the different factions.

If you find a guild you like, join the faction they have aligned with. But don't rush into it, in case you want to leave that guild for another. It's not impossible to change, it just requires patience. It's easier to wait than to rush into a decision and then have to work to undo the changes.

Friendships are FAR more important than faction, or politics, or equipment, or money, or anything else in the game. Find other people who value friendships above those things, and avoid the ones who are willing to sacrifice friendships to gain advantages in-game.

Good Jena, can't we even tell newbies which capitals are easiest anymore without turning it into faction propaganda? :/

And couldn't they have picked something more believable than "Karavan often say their territories are easy to start off in", that's ridiculous, anyone claiming Matis is easy to start off in would be laughed away! That place is insane!

Consensus has always been that Matis and Fyros capitals are hard, Tryker is easy because of all the water you can hide in, and Zora is easy because there's hardly any aggro, and both those things that make Tryker&Zora easy can be downsides too.
What they really should've told you however, is that going to a capital other than your race's makes it hard to continue crafting.

The journey to other capitals can be made on foot assuming you're okay with spending several days on each trek, dieing hundreds of time and slowly learning how to sneak through. If you enjoy such a learning process, go for it, if it only frustrates you, probably better not. :)

Seeing all the plans: bmsite.net Remember that one.

Spending 50 crafting skill points, definitely not at low level I would say.

As for the Kami & Karavan faction... well, Kami will tell you negative things about the Karavan faction, Karavan will tell you negative things about the Kami faction, and in truth most people have only been in one faction anyways and base their opinion of the other completely on rumours. You happened to run into a Kami propagandist, had you ran into a Karavan one you would've heard the exact opposite, how the Karavan faction are a rather friendly community and the Kami only seem nice at first.

Base your choice of faction on which you like more from a lore standpoint, or on which your friends are in. Don't listen to anyone claiming one faction or the other has better/nicer/friendlier people, it's all subjective at best and propaganda at worst.

Eh, that Fyros lady seemed nice enough, but I wouldn't be surprised if what she said wasn't entirely true. It's interesting how even players tend to have negative opinions on factions they've never been in. It kinda, some how, adds immersion to the world. Increases the feel of the Kami's dislike of the Karavan and vice versa.

Sorry I forgot to post my timezone. If I'm correct, I'm in the central time zone. I live in Tennessee.

Well, I really like the Tryker's medium armor, but that's about it as far as Tryker armor and clothing goes. The only thing I like about the Matis clothing is the light pants, so I don't think it's worth investing points into learning their plans. If you exclude the ass-less chaps, I like Fyros light clothing and caster stuff the most.

I like the looks of Fyros swords and daggers more

When it comes to amps, It's no contest: I like Tryker amps the most, but I'm willing to go with Fyros amps if I chose to be able to craft Fyros things.

I really like the Fyros daggers and swords, but I also really like the Tryker lances and amps. Plus, their swords aren't too bad looking, and I can always trade with someone for Fyros swords.

I think, I'm gonna learn how to craft Tryker melee and range weapons first (Does that include their shields? Which I also like). Their style appeals to me more.

As far as clothing and armor goes, I like Tryker Medium armor more, except for the chest part: I like Matis armor more as far as the chest parts go, but I'm not gonna invest into Matis gear.

And as for factions, I'm gonna stay neutral for quite a while. Also, I'm gonna stay at the Lakes for now.

Thanks for the replies, guys!

Many of us actually HAVE been in other factions. For example me. My first character i started out in Yrkanis, and than was trekked byt my RL best friend to Fairhaven (We died a bunch like really a lot) and there i joined the guild i was already part of from SIlan, the Guardians of Jena. Soon i had 2 toons in there my main at the time was called Feledett and my second was Amnesia. I was in the guild for nearly 3 months and recieved hardly any help. I did no know what cats were till i had an accident and all my toons were deleted. I re made them as the Devs/CSRs could not get them back or did not have the time, and i re made my second toon only hoping to get my main (lvl 106 at the time) back. I made my second a Fyros this time and went to Pyr. In less than 10 minutes of my arrival i was recruited by a Kami guild called Divine Council of Pyr and was given gear, cats and 2 Packers and was explained a lot about the game. All in all i learned about the game in that 1 hour more than all time put together i spent in GoJ.

I'm NOT trying to badmouth here anyone or any guild, these are just the facts that happened to me.
Later i was informed by GoJ members that during the time i was there they did not really have time for new re-cruits because they had boss/npc boss/named hunts happening every day and also they were re-stocking the GH with high grade mats and i was only recruited because my RL best buddy requested them to invite me.
My RL best buddy's ingame name is Mayadanava.

So anyway, what i was trying to prove here is that MANY of us Kamis HAVE been Karas before.

Oh in TI you do find some more ex-GoJ members like Iwishiwasfive i do remember him from the time i was in GoJ.

So the negative opinions DO have real BASIS!

Hm. Ok. I'll keep that in mind.

Also, one more quick small question: Should I start crafting Tryker amps next or Tryker spears next? I'm leaning more towards Tryker spears, because I already can find and have bought a pair of great Tryker amps that I most likely would not be able to craft right away.

On the other hand, I've never seen any Tryker spears for sale anywhere so far, and the only decent melee weapon I have is a quality 20 Fyros 1-handed sword. I want to use a Tryker spear with a shield because it reminds me of this one character I played as in this other game I liked.

I don't know if anyone told you that already, but the PT trek is supposed to start around 19:00 GMT today.

Yes, the PT trek runs at 19:00 GMT, which is 1 PM Central Time, and you can send a tell to Tyneetryk to set up arangements.

The lakes aren't a bad place to start, they're a safe place to level, but it can be difficult to get to other regions.

You don't have to pick a side, Karavan or Kami. You can get just as many teleportation pacts, though they are not in the Prime Roots or level 250 areas. It's a choice, not a requirement. If neither side seems to be the perfect fit for you, that's okay.

Sure some people have real negative experiences with one faction or the other, but it's usually one guild or a few bad people or that they just didn't fit in as well. Both factions have their good and their bad. I've only been in one myself, but I would think if one faction was really so bad once you're inside, it'd be very small indeed, and both factions actually are pretty balanced in numbers.

As for the crafting, depends if you wanna use spears or amps, or if you find one more fun to craft. But it's true you'll likely have little trouble finding an amp-crafter and much more trouble finding a spear-crafter.

I'm gonna go with the spear then.

And as for the Treks, I'll see if I can make it.

I really want to join a guild soon, but I think I'm gonna stay neutral as far as factions go.

Thanks for the feedback.

So Amnesia points out that some people have a reason not to like the Karavan, when all of those points are about people who are KAMI now. Please disregard anything you hear about one side being more friendly/helpful/better than the other. There are awesome people on both sides and in the end it's not important. While I do believe the lakes are a good place to start, eventually you will join hunt teams in other regions and will need those TPs to get there, so it's a good idea to trek around.

Obviously you missed my point. I never said that Karavan are not good, not helpful etc... I also said that at the time the guild was preoccupied and wasn't actually recruiting those days.

My point was that MANY of us Kami have been Karavan at one point.

But if you want i can tell you about my time in TPM and OOTN.... So you see it's not just one guild... and for the Record I run my own guild now.

You kinda diiiiid.