Friendly fire for AoE spells and weapons - IDEAS FOR RYZOM

#1 Added by Tumbleweed 1 decade ago [en]

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To use them more carefully, knowing you can harm your own teammates or allies.

#2 Added by Rajaaar 1 decade ago [en]

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Hello, I'm not sure to understand what you meant :)

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#3 Added by Jayce 1 decade ago [en]

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He means to make AoE spells affect friendly homins too, thus forcing people to take greater care when using them.

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#4 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en]

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Wouldn't that make it impossible to tank?

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#5 Added by Iala(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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he seems to fail to comprehend that what he thinks are AOE spells aren't.
They're multi-target spells.
If you cast a bomb at a dense pack, it will hit only a maximum number of targets in the pack, depending on the stanza used, it won't hit the entire pack (unless of course the number of potential targets is smaller or equal to the maximum your stanza allows).

As to tanking, a true AOE with ability to damage friendlies would make tanking harder, especially it'd make the healers' job a lot harder.
It'd also create a massive capability for griefing, in that a caster could simply target something near a friendly (or so they think) group and kill them all by casting a few bombs.

#6 Added by Meagon 1 decade ago [en]

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Why aren't people using that new poll system that was implemented....

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#7 Added by Loryen 1 decade ago [en]

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-1 for the reasons explained by Iala, but...

+1 if discussing artillery

#8 Added by Arcueid(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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-1 It confilcts with many of the other game mechanics, don't see the benefits.

#9 Added by Soularis(arispotle) 1 decade ago [en]

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+1 for more realism

#10 Added by Amiko 1 decade ago [en]

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+1 If the AoE effects wouldnt have a limited number of targets and affected ALL targets inthe Area of Effect dealing 100% damage in the effect starting point and dissipate as it spreads (not dividing the damage of a single hit among multiple enemies).

They should also work for healing spells - after all who didnt try to heal themself using a bomb heal.

Under any other circumstances I think it's pointless.

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#11 Added by Firstdo 1 decade ago [en]

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Make bombs hit friendly targets so people can kill non attackable homins?

This would just become the next aggro dragging, have one character stand next to another regular homin and bomb nuke them to kill other homins... Not to mention it wouldnt be ticketable because it'd be part of the game

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#12 Added by Arfur 1 decade ago [en]

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They're not ordinary bombs, where indiscriminate damage is the usual outcome. They're magic spells, so can be tailored to hurt only the bad guys, like er, magic.

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#13 Added by Xoep 1 decade ago [en]

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-1 This would just be non-Ryzom.

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#14 Added by Gasket 1 decade ago [en]

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Isn't it enough that they already target everything in range, and some careless homins aggro loads of herbivores by just using bombs at inappropriate times?

So nope from me.

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#15 Added by Amiko 1 decade ago [en]

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Gasket

Isn't it enough that they already target everything in range [...]

No. They target only a few mobs in range, not everything.

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