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#282 [en] 

Nitrouss
Bucshotz
In an OP war, the ones who are at a disadvantage are the ones not using 4 toons to nuke one target or heal the same target.

4 toons nuking you makes even jewels worthless, so how can you even say those using 4 toons are at a disadvantage?

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Yet still you dont understand mechainces of the game, you can have 50 poeple in your guild do the same to anything you target. it will die instantly.
you don't wnat to use the mechanics yet complain about someone that does?
you have the same ability. you can ask 3 other members in your team or guild to do the same... your target will die instantly. they can set it all up in 3 keys.
you can even nuke and heal in 1 button.

its not quite the same as you make it seem, lets be fair, sure they 'can' achieve the same but the difficulty of simultaneous cooperation is non existent when being a solo controller, be it speed, timing or reaction time, when dependent on multiple minds working in sync vs single person.
communication delay alone is a disadvantage.

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#283 [en] 

Nitrouss
Bucshotz
In an OP war, the ones who are at a disadvantage are the ones not using 4 toons to nuke one target or heal the same target.

4 toons nuking you makes even jewels worthless, so how can you even say those using 4 toons are at a disadvantage?

L
O
L

Yet still you dont understand mechainces of the game, you can have 50 poeple in your guild do the same to anything you target. it will die instantly.
you don't wnat to use the mechanics yet complain about someone that does?
you have the same ability. you can ask 3 other members in your team or guild to do the same... your target will die instantly. they can set it all up in 3 keys.
you can even nuke and heal in 1 button.

Yeh bucs.. learn game mechanics... lol.. Thanks Nit but we know a bit more than just macroing to either heal or nuke on 1 button although golly gosh that really is impressive!

The days of 50 people in a guild are gone.. Try 25 people in a faciton. Try 25 people in a faction against what should be even numbers but because of alts turns into fighting 50+. As I have stated before we have won against those odds and lost against those odds but win or lose it all comes back to the same thing.. a massive alt heal pod at OP wars is boring, sucks and turns OPs into a spam fest (but from the sounds of it you are well versed in spam fests). Sure it brings the challenge of how can we wipe that pod which is why pretty much all of us are launcher masters and still manage to wipe double our numbers but OPs should be more about skill not just how many alts you can sub, log and spam 1 on.

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#284 [en] 

LMAO learn game mechanics?
fight me without alts nit, lets see how that goes for you bro ;)

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#285 [fr] 

Imagine a game mechanics that would kill others parts of the game?

(talking about the fact with an ele pod on your head your uber-good jewelry are useless).

#286 Multilingual 

Nobody remembers when the OP battles were actually organized. You can say they are now but this is the reason I don't play them anymore. It's boring. We had multi guilds in voice chat and it worked out. I think it's more fun to learn how to beat something rather than just play Post Malone, just saying. If people learned to have an open mind rather than just shoot things down because they don't agree with it, we wouldn't be where we're at. This "friendly" community refuses to have an actual debate and just passes judgement when they don't agree with someone. Good luck!!!!

#287 Multilingual 

Ya probably could assign a team to deal with the clones instead of going hero 1v4 too. I don't know. I just don't think dig 1000000000000000 mats for launchers and complain about alts on forum is very constructive either. Some want to be remembered as a "dominant force" during a pandemic. **DEL** Disrespectfull
Bones

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#288 [en] 

If you want to come to an OP you will see we are organised and wiping double our numbers on low threshold rounds and trying out lots of different tactics- but as I said previously Bones, it's not about winning or loosing. Just from my point of view OP wars are 1000% more fun without alts and when they involve tactics other than just button smashing, likewise this has been mirrored speaking to other players across all factions. In my ideal world all alts would be banned from OP wars and would be allowed in PVE.. but heyho its the devs that dropped this bombshell one everyone, this is just a place where people can share their opinions :)

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#289 Multilingual 

I hear ya. I had to come here to say my useless piece though. It doesn't affect me since I'm just here to see what happens next. I hope everyone has an enjoyable time but to me one alt is the same as eight. My fun is chatting with you all and playing on forums. Some like to play many characters. Others excell in 1v1. We all have different views of fun so I would hope we can find an honest solution is all rather than just take someone's joy.

#290 [en] 

Virg
Nitrouss
Bucshotz
In an OP war, the ones who are at a disadvantage are the ones not using 4 toons to nuke one target or heal the same target.

4 toons nuking you makes even jewels worthless, so how can you even say those using 4 toons are at a disadvantage?

L
O
L

Yet still you dont understand mechainces of the game, you can have 50 poeple in your guild do the same to anything you target. it will die instantly.
you don't wnat to use the mechanics yet complain about someone that does?
you have the same ability. you can ask 3 other members in your team or guild to do the same... your target will die instantly. they can set it all up in 3 keys.
you can even nuke and heal in 1 button.

Yeh bucs.. learn game mechanics... lol.. Thanks Nit but we know a bit more than just macroing to either heal or nuke on 1 button although golly gosh that really is impressive!

The days of 50 people in a guild are gone.. Try 25 people in a faciton. Try 25 people in a faction against what should be even numbers but because of alts turns into fighting 50+. As I have stated before we have won against those odds and lost against those odds but win or lose it all comes back to the same thing.. a massive alt heal pod at OP wars is boring, sucks and turns OPs into a spam fest (but from the sounds of it you are well versed in spam fests). Sure it brings the challenge of how can we wipe that pod which is why pretty much all of us are launcher masters and still manage to wipe double our numbers but OPs should be more about skill not just how many alts you can sub, log and spam 1 on.

I completely agree with might virg and buckshot,
Everyone should play the game as specified virg and buckshot, nobody should use an alt even if they want to pay for more accounts, if anyone plays the game differently they should be driven out of the game.
OPs should be a solo pvp challenge so a faction of 25 players can beat them.
These guys can really teach us a lot about building a community and a family/guild :)
What would I know I only spam one button! :D

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#291 [en] 

I completely agree with Nit, everyone should all sub 4 toons and spend loads of money to win. Once everyone all has 4 toons subbed lets add more P2W elements. What I want to see in the game:

- buy a 100% boosting tool for money
- GM powers unlockable with payments
- Add a RL money only wheel with chances to unlock vorkoo as a mount, unlock jena as a character option and many more things!

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#292 [en] 

Now we're getting somewhere!

Let's just make Ryzom Pay2Win like every other game!

I'd like to pay for every color of Marauder skirt that hasn't been released along with the things you guys have mentioned.

Also, what about paid armor and weapons that are 200% stats?

I'm all in lets do it!

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#293 [en] 

Bones
Nobody remembers when the OP battles were actually organized. You can say they are now but this is the reason I don't play them anymore. It's boring. We had multi guilds in voice chat and it worked out. I think it's more fun to learn how to beat something rather than just play Post Malone, just saying. If people learned to have an open mind rather than just shoot things down because they don't agree with it, we wouldn't be where we're at. This "friendly" community refuses to have an actual debate and just passes judgement when they don't agree with someone. Good luck!!!!

I remember Mr. Bones ;)

#294 [en] 

If multiboxers want to have a go at anyone it really should be at fellow multiboxers who exploit and/or utilise multiboxing in a way which is against the ToC.

Most tickets about multiboxers are in relation to suspected botting.  Most complaints are in relation to multiboxers exploiting the current rules in a way which is by general consensus considered unfair.

Multiboxing is very common in Ryzom but not everyone who multiboxes brings their alts to an OP battle.  Some, however, do and some also bot.  It is the conduct of these partiuclar multiboxers that has led to an increasing number of tickets and complaints by a significant portion of the playerbase.

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#295 [en] 

What really strikes me about this "compromise" is that we are being told that our hard work is being taken from us, not because we have done anything wrong but only because of complaints.

When the servers merged, we had all our stuff taken from us. After years of refusing to intervene with multiboxing, a 4 toon limit was imposed. And now after continuing to follow the rules we are being further restricted and the reason we are given?

"To save the soul of Ryzom".

This is clearly about OP battles, and the proposes changes are both directly and indirectly intended to intervene on behalf of a faction who seem to have some kind of direct input into decisions being made.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Beeficus (4 years ago)

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#296 [en] 

Beeficus
This is clearly about OP battles, and the proposes changes are both directly and indirectly intended to intervene on behalf of a faction who seem to have some kind of direct input into decisions being made.

The use of alts in OP battle is just creating an unbalance.
But I do agreed with your post on a general matter.
It looks like it's a decision taken to please everyone without fixing anything and adding more work to the CSR team (how they will check that? if it's allowed to use more alts everywhere else?)
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