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#225 [en] 

I wasn't going to comment on this thread however reading Laoviel's post I just had to say this provides an extremely well balanced review of the situation in general and also my own thoughts (GG). I really only have 3 points to add:

- My only strong feeling on this entire matter is that OP wars just are depressing comming up against armies of alts, regardless of whether I am on the loosing or winning side. As Laoviel said, I really don't see the devs managing to police & ban alts from every single OP war.

- Really excited by the prospect of upcoming small team events/activities that Ulu hinted towards.

- In a bid to fix storage issues that people have brought up, I have made a post on the idea thread here.

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#226 [en] 

Right from the beginning this all reminded me a bit of the merge and how so many player said they would (and did) quit the game complaining about their years of hoarding multiple guild halls not to mention the contoversy over wiping of F2P levels.  Sure some did quit but most eventually came back.  Those that continued to play tackled the challenges that the merge created of which there were many but for me the ensuing years were some of the most enjoyable.

My point is simple - no one likes change.

But rest assured we can all adapt and in fact a lot of players lost years of farmed mats and unique items and yet here we are today.

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#227 Multilingual 

Four seems like a convenient number. I'm with logic on this one. Should be all or nothing. I have an alt, and started playing this way when I found nobody to team with. Maybe I haven't been around long enough to make friends, don't know but that's the way it is. If you are not going to allow multiboxing then even a single alt should not be allowed. Anything after that is just a silly made up number. This complaining has been going on for years from every which angle. All or none. I honestly don't care how other people play, their money, their choice Good luck!

#228 Multilingual 

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Bonjour,

Je viens de terminer ma lecture des 233 posts.
Je vais maintenant prendre un peu de temps pour analyser la situation avant de réagir, et reviendrai vers vous au plus vite (mais sans pour autant me précipiter).

Prenez soin de vous !

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#229 Multilingual 

here i was thinking of coming back and subbing multiple toons for the kami side!!!

the multiboxing debate has been around for forever, beefie is a noob when it comes to multiboxing, you should all have 4 toons subbed and beat him at his own game :D

As for op wars, implement a guild vs guild only feature where members who have been in the guild for more then 30 days can participate in op wars, most alts will be removed from the war.

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#230 [en] 

Nitrouss
As for op wars, implement a guild vs guild only feature where members who have been in the guild for more then 30 days can participate in op wars, most alts will be removed from the war.

...for 30 days exactly...

#231 [fr] 

**DEL** Irrevelant
The post was about the history of multi boxing in ryzom.
The same old debate has been around for over 10 years pre server merger.

Edited 3 times | Last edited by Nitrouss (4 years ago)

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Through strength, you gain power.
Through power, you gain victory.
Through victory, your chains are broken.
Ma-Duk shall free you.

#232 [en] 

Moniq
Nitrouss
As for op wars, implement a guild vs guild only feature where members who have been in the guild for more then 30 days can participate in op wars, most alts will be removed from the war.

...for 30 days exactly...

Smart reply but most alts are person storage guilds and op wars are not though 30 days ahead. People don’t want to log in an out of multiple toons to access craft mats

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Through passion, you gain strength.
Through strength, you gain power.
Through power, you gain victory.
Through victory, your chains are broken.
Ma-Duk shall free you.

#233 [fr] 

At least reduce the GH access lvl ... to avoid people changing guild just for ammo mats stored in GH.

#234 [en] 

Sinvaders
At least reduce the GH access lvl ... to avoid people changing guild just for ammo mats stored in GH.

This completely ridiculous - if you can't police your own Guildhall the solution is not to make a rule that applies to everyone.

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#235 [fr] 

Lol. But ok, since you do not understand.
My statement is about not being able to withdraw what is in a guildhall from an outpost for homin not guild member since X days. Why? Because people are getting guilded and promote as off sup in guild just for outpost, in the hope of avoiding logistics for ranged weapon (launcher and auto-launcher ammo that requires the use of mektoub). It's a common practice.
Don't talk about my GH policy since you don't know it.
And the one ridiculous is you and learn how to read.

#236 [en] 

**DEL** Irrevelant

Sure if you are talking about small fight scenarios. Big difference when applying this to OPs and 1 person can suddenly bring 3 alts all spam healing. Played many OPs against many an alt heal pod- sure its a challenge to beat them but is it fun? Won many times, lost many times but regardless it is irratating either way. It is just stupid that in an OP 5 people can turn into 20 toons all spam healing, especially on a low pop game.

As for the fix of guild locking alts, accounts have 5 spaces- people will just have a GH alt on the same account on a different character and put their main toons in their Guild.

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#237 Multilingual 

I honestly don't get what the fuss is about. The current 4 toon limit applies to everyone. This means everyone has the same opportunity to bring their 4 man army to the OP battle. Sounds to me like people that don't like to use alts want to force the rest to do the same.

As for the whole idea that someone with alts has an advantage hunting bosses is pretty ridiculous. The biggest challenge in boss hunting is finding them, not taking them down.

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#238 [en] 

**DEL** Out of Topic / Hors Sujet

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Heli (4 years ago)

#239 [en] 

All of this drama started over some supposed cheating by using a 3rd party software to run multiple toons. So far there's been crying about: people being too good at playing, alts ruining role play, alts causing the game to not be played "correctly", teams of alts taking NPC bosses, alts causing one side to have the upper hand at OPs and now we've come around to toons new to a guild shouldn't have access to ammo from an OP during a battle.

What the actual F? Those of you that are butt-hurt need to stop and just play your own toon your own way. Because what it really boils down to is that some of you think your way is the only way. That's not how it is.

The real problem, AGAIN, is that the use of 3rd party programs needs to be dealt with and stopped at the client level.

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