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...except when they don't. I too have seen event teams use Around, but I've also seen them create channels or use other channels. The fact that the event teams themselves use different methods tells me that there are multiple acceptable ways... and also no real consistent convention.
When I worked night shift and could only play at hours that matched up with European afternoon/early evening, it was a completely different world from the Atys I know. The difference between 0200-0700 UTC Ryzom and 1600-2100 UTC Ryzom is as night-and-day as you would expect going from night to day.
It's also naturally used for other reasons. Having a separate channel would stop a lot of the problems caused by the current single channel that we cannot seem to agree on what it's for.
...except that if you use the channel for non-RP differently from how others use it then you'll catch flak from those of differing opinions, leading to the sort of strife and conflict that I personally would like to avoid. I mean, you are theoretically correct, but reality doesn't always match theory.
If my failure to agree wholeheartedly and without reservation that this is a good idea with no changes whatsoever is "an issue" then so be it. Let us address it head-on.

Simply put, I feel that your idea is very well-intended and quite simple to implement, but would also not achieve the desired goal. A goal that you and I share. As we share a common goal yet I doubt the effectiveness of your proposal, I offered an alternative idea. Is that an issue? I hope not, or else there is no possibility of ever having constructive discourse.

My take is that if your idea were implemented earlier, then the flaws in it would've been exposed earlier, non-RPers would still be using Around the way they do now, and we still would've had a conversation about the purpose of the Around channel. The only real difference is that we are having that conversation now instead of years ago.

« The road to hell is paved with good intentions. »

- Proverb

Now tell me, what would be so horrible about adding a separate Roleplay channel? The only downside I see is that a small minority would have to click a different chat tab than the one that they are used to. Can you offer a little constructive criticism on my idea?

Same reason as meetings, mainly for translation (to not flood to much "around cc" and keep it readable.

Word order is important. "The Event Team uses only the Around channel for roleplay" (which is more or less true) is not the same as "The Event Team are using it for roleplay only," which would mean that OOC comments went into some other channel.

Agree with some +'s.
Admit I skipped all the flames and I'm replying directly to first post.

• First 2 lines should make it explicity that some players use the around channel to Roleplay, as you already say
• Associated link should make it explicit that all game interactions RP or noRP should be based on respect and the premise that we all belong in game
• There is no such thin as Roleplay rules, other than mutual respect and abidance by the game's code of conduct. So any informative link should include and motivate good game interactions and discourage sociopathic behaviours hidden behind "RP"

Good point on the extensive first pop up messages, which are in my opinion not player friendly: Text to small, to complex etc. Maybe another "more praxis, less reading" tutorial would be better? Maybe make a post about this?



My first experience was really uncomfortable and most of them have been since. I play a character named "Victoriacamper" created at a time when forums were burning in flames about camping, and like after 10 years of absence. I approached many people with roleplay interaction, playing a fierce zorai girl who can handle everything despite her low levels and the fact that her guild and most of her friends are mostly gone, I have been confronted with ignore, insults, harassment, and a general disinterest in roleplay, even from those who call themselves roleplayers, and even direct attacks in noRP channels and forums. I find most people are rarely interested in getting to know the character and morely interested in knowing what player is behind this character at any given time. Just my experience, way off topic but you "encouraged" it.

There was a special Ryzom Forge meeting about feedback to (not just) these messages. There were several suggestions made by players about how to improve it.

I'm sorry, but after reading those meeting notes and having a rare moment of agreement with Victoriacamper, I have to say that this has gone exactly as I felt it would. But so long as the people here on these forums feel that making more channels that allow them to communicate without unwanted chatter is considered "more divisive" than totally isolating them by making them shut off channels completely the same way they avoid these forums like the plague, I don't see it getting fixed. It's too easy to stuff the ballot box when you make those who disagree stay away from the polls.

[EN]Hello,As the proposal is validated and added, I close this topic.