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#204 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [fr] 

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1.   Add New Horizons to Tourist Guide List

2.  Ability to filter map flags by category ... i.e. Bandits, Citizens, etc

3.  Ability to click ona  scroll icon in compass and get their name, title and affiliation

4.  Ability to hang w/ my homies and travel around Atys w/ wandering tribes who behave as they would as if in camp.

Edited 6 times | Last edited by Fyrosfreddy (5 years ago)

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#205 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [fr] 

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Giving this its own post ... not that anyone appears to be looking at this thread.  With te map resoltion and 256 flag limit, the idea of displaying everything at once is problematic.  So rather than deal with the 256 or resolution, there seems to be a simple alternative,

When I right click on the compass, I can select say "Citizen" and it shows me a list of about 30 Citizens in Fleeting Garden and Upper Bog (all that I have marked). 


5.   Ability to increase flags and display flags by category, hopefully allowing one to exceed the 256 flag limit per region ... see Item 2 above.  Im thinking a separate file for each category and the idea being to display 1 category (maybe 2 or 3) at a time.  Instead of a single file for landmarks why not have a file for each region ?   Rightnow I have:

landmarks_fyrosfreddy.xml

Why not ...

LM-Desert_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-Forest_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-Lakes_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-Jungle_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-Nexust_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-Desert_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-LoU_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-AoIt_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-WL_fyrosfreddy.xml
LM-US_fyrosfreddy.xml

Right now, the landmarks file only displays the region that the player chooses to open.   When opening the Deset file, it could contain all the items in the filter, but only display 1 or 2 filter / Subfilter categories.   So if Im out doing Prospector missions, I might want to display Citizens. Prospectors and and Mission Mats for the region. 

Categot Filter / Subfiter

Harvest Materials / Basic Fine Choice
Harvest Materials / Exe  Sup
Mission Mats
NPCs / National
NPCs / Hawkers
NPCs / Other (i.e. Rites)
NPCs / Tribe Welcomers
NPCs  / Wandering (Scouts Patrollers Journeyman Prospector Hunter)
  * the other Tribe folks are all located in camps so if ya find the Welcomer ya find them
Named - Boss Creatures
Flora
Fauna
Places / TPs  Portals Spawn Points
Places / Safe Spots

Other then agreeing on the Fiter / Subfilter categories anmd linking the menus to the appropriate files, the coding doesn't appear (to this naive individual anyway) to be that involved.

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#206 Added by Sarpedonia 5 years ago [en] 

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Yes please, to Freddy's proposal.

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#207 Added by Karu 5 years ago [en] 

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There has been no landmark limit for long time, as for map zoom, add MaxMapScale=10.0; for client.cfg for 10x zoom (default is 2x)

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#208 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [fr] 

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That's what I thought .... and yet I as unable to add any new markers yesterday.  Is there a limit maybe in a single log in ?  I tried 12 times to add more markers than you see here:



That's a screenshot imported into AutoCAD and then "published to web" ... looked good except the export killed the resolution.

Now when I log in today I am again able to do flags. I'm guessing that the file isn't "saved" till one logs out. And perhaps it will hold only so many missions in the cache until it no longer accepts more ?

I have about 100 NPC locations that, Id like to see added to BM mats. Any way for me to export them so they could be added ?

For example:

FLEETING GARDEN (100)

Sacred Sap - Tribe Welcomer =Ja-Zun Fa
Scout = Miaro Cido (4 Locations)
Journeyman = Cedon Ibiraan (1 Location)
Patroller = Ha-Zhia Cuo (2 Locations)
Hunter = Sai-Ju Jeoi (1 Location)

Siblings of the Weed - Tribe Welcomer = Cai-Ci Liangi
Scout = Sai-Ju Du (3 Locations)
Journeyman = Vani Cuillo (1 Location)
Prospector = Pei-Jeng Tao (1 Location)
Hunter = Qu-Bin Nao (2 Locations)

Nation / Other
Hunter = = Pecho Cuildo (2 Locations)
Journeyman = Vani Cuillo (1 Location)
Patroller = Aniche Anigno (1 Location)
Prospector = Nirni Ciozzo (1 Location)
Prospector = Viccia Girinia (2 Locations)
Pecho Cuidi = Prospector (3 Locations)

I saw no sense in adding the other tribe mission givers in the camps as they all hangin with the Tribe Welcomer.

Let me know ....

a) If I guessed right about why I couldn't add flags ?
b) If unsure, anything you want me to do testing wise ?
c) We have any shot at being able to filter an entire category ? Liken Citizens only or Citizens and Mission mats only ?
d) Can I export anything to add NPCs to BM Maps. Was going to try Lopy's app but I dunno if the data is useful

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#209 Added by Karu 5 years ago [en] 

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Fyrosfreddy
That's what I thought .... and yet I as unable to add any new markers yesterday.  Is there a limit maybe in a single log in ?
What error you get? There is no landmark limit in the code.

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#210 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [fr] 

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No error .... just would not create new flags.  I tried to do som nothing happened .. rinse and repeat 4 times.   I found another NPC, same deal .. tried 3 times.   Found another NPC, no go.

Eliminated two flags for old egg locations.  Was now able to create flags.  nmade 1 , OK... made another, OK.  Tried a 3rd... NG.  Relogged back intoday and all is right w/ the world.   Only the NPCs moved :)

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#211 Added by Karu 5 years ago [en] 

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Fyrosfreddy
No error .... just would not create new flags.  I tried to do som nothing happened .. rinse and repeat 4 times.   I found another NPC, same deal .. tried 3 times.   Found another NPC, no go.
official clients I tested for linux and windows does not have landmark limits like you describe.

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#212 Added by Moniq 5 years ago [fr] 

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I can't confirm any problems with limit either, I just created around 300 flags on Silan map...


Does it happen to you with a specific flag type? Or on a specific map? Can you try with same client but blank character?

#213 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [en] 

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Karu
official clients I tested for linux and windows does not have landmark limits like you describe.

1.   I am not suggesting such a thing is encoded in the current releases as it was before (I had seen it an an old post of yours, which is where i got the 256 from).

All I can say for a fact is that I was iunable to create one ... 9 times and at different locations and that deleting two, let me create another 2 but not a 3rd.   Perhaps the official Win64 client is different from the single folder install on soundforge ?  Perhaps it was a fluke associated with something outside of Ryzom or a one time thing.  Perhaps I created and then edited / moved to many flags and kami gods were punishing me

I have had at least a dozen missions in the last week fail to complete, I don't know why either, but in all but one case (12 Kirostas died, no creds), as with the markers,  relogging made them work.

2.  Regardless, if it happens again, thanks to your input, I know what not to consider.   I should tell ya that I kinda remebered the limit being removed, at the time wondering who could ever fill up the limit.   But hey at my age, you have to wonder, so thanks for letting me know I don't have Alzheimers :)

If it ever does happen again, it would seem I can eliminate it by relogging ... if someone else experiences it, at least there's a workaround that can be tried like using "follow" instead of the macro to make meks appear.

3.  Since there is a simple work around, I don't want to waste any more of your time on it, however I was hoping to get  your thoughts on  c) and d)  from original post.

c) We have any shot at being able to filter an entire category ? Liken Citizens only or Citizens and Mission mats only ?

d) Can we provide / export anything to add Missing NPCs to BM Maps. Was going to try Lopy's app but I dunno if that  or any other form of data collection would be  useful ... and peteJ not around to ask

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#214 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [fr] 

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One more think .. ..if ya misclick and happen to hit the City Welcomer, add an ABANDON biutton :) ... BTW, should Karavan City he be giving Kamis Karavan Teleport Pacts ... and visa versa ?

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#215 Added by Karu 5 years ago [en] 

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Fyrosfreddy
c) We have any shot at being able to filter an entire category ? Liken Citizens only or Citizens and Mission mats only ?
There is no easy way to make gui for it. There is /mapsearch command if one wants to make shortcuts (there is no command to clear search tho)
Fyrosfreddy
d) Can we provide / export anything to add Missing NPCs to BM Maps. Was going to try Lopy's app but I dunno if that  or any other form of data collection would be  useful ... and peteJ not around to ask

NPC's are easy to find. Look for radar, it shows if any is in range, if they have mission for you, or if you have something to give them.

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#216 Added by Fyrosfreddy 5 years ago [en] 

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Karu
There is no easy way to make gui for it. There is /mapsearch command if one wants to make shortcuts (there is no command to clear search tho)

I have categorized all the mission givers as "Citizens". It just seems odd that it is very easy to filter a specific NPC (i.e. Bar'Nappy Nar'Kolepsi) and show the 4 locations that he / she rotates between

Karu
NPC's are easy to find. Look for radar, it shows if any is in range, if they have mission for you, or if you have something to give them

I wrote an extensive post on this very subject a few weeks ago ... To my mind it's supposed to be hard to find them ... the 1st time. However, the way fame is structured, it's exhausting to get those last few levels (took 12 hours to go from 96 to 100 doing nothing else. So, if we could filter my map for all "traveling NPCs in a region" we could minimize the back and forth and plan a route. Discovering where something is is fun ...but rediscovering every time I have to repeat something is frustrating.

But thanks for the info, seemed like it would be a simple thing, but looks like I misjudged. Perhaps I could rename them with the Tribe Name and name so I can use the existing filter function (w/ say Ecowarriors) to accomplish this goal.

As for mapping all the locations for others to access, we are working on a mapping app at present. In the meantime, we can add them to silenda maps as needed.

Thanks again for the feedback

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#217 Added by Jorgensen 5 years ago [fr] 

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omg i can set a map scale setting and zoom in farther? I have so many flags too close to each other to select. thanks for this post!

#218 Added by Hendat 5 years ago [en] 

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Two hours for an OP is too long.

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