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#16 Added by Naema 6 years ago [en]

I only fear that if you remove SN and PvP from Lands of Umbra that it will then will become like Nexus, totally useless to go to.

I think after the server merge, they 'dumbed down' the game, tried to get the rewards down for everyone and tried to make the supremes and excellent and boss mats more valuable by making them rarer, but I don't think it worked too well. Many came on and found it hard to get mats because other guilds grabbed them first. The result? people stopped playing. It was discouraging for most. (But that is my personal Opinion and I will probably get criticized for that).
At any rate...

Perhaps if they made a whole new Land that was a real challenge, then maybe. (And by that, I mean not change Wastelands, but make a whole new land)

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#17 Added by Bones 6 years ago Multilingual

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I don't think they would remove supreme materials. That was a weird thing to do with nexus. they should put those back too. Can even keep it PvP but should still move SN to somewhere q250 with KP and make that region PvP. KP is not a burden, they are there to make you think. If you can't think or adapt, you respawn. Sups are easy enough to get as it is and if there are only 10 people fighting over super nodes then maybe Atys should fight back too :)

#18 Added by Craftjenn 6 years ago [en]

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Sorry, but what SN is for ?

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#19 Added by Siela 6 years ago [en]

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SN = Supernodes = [FR] Spots magiques = Sup mat spots with 200-300 sups at Season change

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#20 Added by Xolok 6 years ago [en]

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The main reason why I stopped playing was because it became so easy to have supreme materials. They are not rare at all anymore... I've seen many people destroy supreme Zun amps because they just have too many of them. Go a couple years back and they were actually rare. When it comes to boosted equipment, it has become a standard instead of an exciting improvement. When there is no challenge, the motivation goes away, and so do the players.

I could not be more in favor of all this. Yes, yes and yes!

I think the priority should be to drastically reduce the amount of supreme materials in a node. Also, it would be great if the nodes stopped respawning at reboots (since it only advantages random people that are there when it happens) and respawn instead at random times (a bit like bosses).

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#21 Added by Placio 6 years ago [en]

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I think the excess of mats is just a symptom to the loss of a lot of PVP players...

We could completely move SN away from craftable mats and into a type of mission mat that can be turned in for guild or faction points... maybe a week long duration, top 5 guilds get x number of points.

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#22 Added by Placio 6 years ago [en]

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Just had another idea- instead of being able to prospect all the versions of each mat from a SN, have it randomly spawn only one type. For example, you go the amber SN looking for 300 Zun, but only 300 Beng spawned :D

I'm going to put these on their own threads.

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#23 Added by Revvy 6 years ago [en]

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Xolok

The main reason why I stopped playing was because it became so easy to have supreme materials. They are not rare at all anymore... I've seen many people destroy supreme Zun amps because they just have too many of them. Go a couple years back and they were actually rare. When it comes to boosted equipment, it has become a standard instead of an exciting improvement. When there is no challenge, the motivation goes away, and so do the players.

I could not be more in favor of all this. Yes, yes and yes!

I think the priority should be to drastically reduce the amount of supreme materials in a node. Also, it would be great if the nodes stopped respawning at reboots (since it only advantages random people that are there when it happens) and respawn instead at random times (a bit like bosses).

Well...... that what Sinvaders is asking/requesting/saying since... years and years now.
The players database is way to low for the amount of supremes available, its not like the old server's

The amount of Pvp is close (if not) to 0 !!!
Most players interested to play the (real) game of resource did leave since no more challenge, and no point to go in SN anymore.

I shall remind you that it is also very very easy to go dig traditional spots (wasteland),
and get tons of supremes without the need to fight any homins.

The Kp's are not a challenge at all, its just a game of patience.

And since they do not want to make the Wasteland PvP (which Roleplay wise should be Lawless), here we are now.

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#24 Added by Bitttymacod 6 years ago [en]

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A few cranky observations from an old Tryker.

All you people who have lots of desirable Sup materials (like Zun amber) might consider putting them on the market so that small, non PvP, guilds could have a chance at them. If the markup doesn't suit you, put them up in the Bazaar.

(Yes, this comment is in my own self-interest, but there are plenty of other small guilds that don't have Sup materials.)

As for quantity of Sup mats per spawn, I'm not sure how 75-82 mats is "too many". Cut it down much below that and it becomes even less worthwhile to bother dealing with weather, KP and other random aggro just to get a few scraps.

PvP = 0 --- There's an answer to that as well as to the low server population. Invite your friends and do your thing.

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#25 Added by Revvy 6 years ago [en]

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Bitttymacod

All you people who have lots of desirable Sup materials (like Zun amber) might consider putting them on the market so that small, non PvP, guilds could have a chance at them. If the markup doesn't suit you, put them up in the Bazaar.

Well go dig like everyone else.. but agree, markets interaction between players should be encouraged.

Bitttymacod

As for quantity of Sup mats per spawn, I'm not sure how 75-82 mats is "too many". Cut it down much below that and it becomes even less worthwhile to bother dealing with weather, KP and other random aggro just to get a few scraps.

They was (we are) mostly talking about the amount of supremes in SN.
so 300~ a node.

Bitttymacod

PvP = 0 --- There's an answer to that as well as to the low server population. Invite your friends and do your thing.

Surely not, this is an indication of the game itself.
When a game has low server population, it mean a lot of things.
Can you have a grasp of what it mean? ;)

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#26 Added by Sinvaders 6 years ago [en]

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Bitttymacod

A few cranky observations from an old Tryker.
As for quantity of Sup mats per spawn, I'm not sure how 75-82 mats is "too many".

Well, because there is absolutely no challenge to empty a spot in 250 Prime roots area. All is a matter of patience. Second point is that nobody is digging traditional spot at reboot too, means that you can be alone or with your mate emptying all spot of 1 region.
And then there is the SN which offer at least 300 mats per spot each seasons. I'm saying at least because we all know what a reboot is doing ... depending on the reboot time, you might be alone on your SN super-spot and get everything for yourself.

And I agreed with what Xolok said.

Bitttymacod

PvP = 0 --- There's an answer to that as well as to the low server population. Invite your friends and do your thing.

Well, the PvP population left the game, long time ago and there is very good reasons for that.