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Ryzom Forge meeting ( November 30 th 2020)


Date: monday, November 30 th, 20:30 UTC (21:30 CET)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel RF
orDuration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.
Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    New launcher

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – November 30th, 2020

New launcher (Tykus)

Tykus
We have noticed that the current launcher ( ryzom_installer .exe) has some difficulties with patches [...]. So Ulukyn has coded a new one that should fix all these problems. It will allow you to import your profiles from the old one and to install in 2 clicks the test servers if needed. It will also allow you to create profiles for each of your accounts, which will be able to connect automatically, as shortcuts. The launcher is the software that launches before the game. It allows you to manage the servers and the patches, then the game will launch without any problem.

Q: Do we need to download the new ryzom_installer.exe and do you have an ETA?
A: For the moment it is in test phase, it is already downloadable for testing. The ETA will be defined by the test results.

Q: These words ''import your profile from the old one'' - does this mean that the new configurations (structure or hierarchy) will be somehow different from the current configurations? Why else would you use the word "import" instead of "copy"?
A: Yes, it's different, the new launcher makes the difference between profile (which is a folder with the backups, the .cfg client etc) and shortcuts which are the saved login information to connect quickly. At the first launch, the launcher will import the ryzom_installer settings as profiles AND shortcuts.

Q: I didn't understand the thing about profiles and shortcuts. Is it possible to explain it again? If I have several characters on several accounts, I have several profiles, right?
A: In ryzom, the client can use profiles to store screenshots, character backups and client settings. But several characters can be in the same profile without worries. Having only one profile works very well when you have several accounts. We used to make one profile per account with the ryzom installer. With the new launcher, this is not useful, just make shortcuts. It's simpler and it allows you to have only one folder to save.

Q: Is it for the Linux client as well? Q: All these .exe, it doesn't seem very suitable for mac clients. Is that planned?
A: There will be a launcher for each windows, mac and linux platform, of course. For the moment, only windows and linux are being tested.

Q: Once the new launcher is ready, will we have to re-install the game with it?
A: No, it can be installed instead of the other one without having to uninstall the old one.

Q: Can we also test it? Or is it reserved for developers?
A: No, you can ask Tamarea to be part of the testing team, the more testers there are, the more efficient the tests will be. It's mostly the different linux distributions that need to be tested. There are so many variants that we can't cover all aspects.

End of meeting

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Ryzom Forge meeting ( January 21st 2021)

Date: monday, January 18 th, 20:30 UTC (21:30 CET)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel RF
orDuration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    New launcher
    Boss refactoring
    Storyline et events
    Recruitment

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – January 18th, 2021

1 - Ryzom Team activity in 2020

Tamarea (RT) – 20:34 UTC
This page of the Ryzom Wiki lists the activities of the Ryzom team in 2020 :https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Ryzom_Team_Activity_2020
It remains to be completed but thanks to the members of the Wiki group, who created it.
NB • The link is given for information so that you can read the page… later: the list is a long one!

2 - New launcher and installer

Tamarea & Ulukyn (RT) – 20:39 UTC
Windows, Linux and Mac versions of the new launcher and installer are in test.
We are looking for a maximum of volunteers to test this new launcher with the maximum of Windows, Linux and Mac versions.
The testers will not have to uninstall the game but just connect to Atys via this new launcher and check that the updates are done correctly.
Those who use different profiles on the current launcher will also be able to check that they appear on the new one.
If some of them wish, they can also test the installation of the game via the launcher. Please make sure to back up your data before doing so. If you make a new installation next to the one you usually use, please allow 8 GB of free space.
If you wish to help with these tests, please contact Tamarea on chat.ryzom.com or by email at tamarea@ryzom.com.

Q: At the last RF meeting only testing for Linux and Windows computers was possible… Can testing for Mac computers start now?
A:
Yes: the development phase of the Mac launcher was completed just today!

Q: Can you give us a link to download the new launcher?
A:
Not here nor now: so that we can solicit feedback from all testers, this link will only be given upon individual request made to Tamarea.

Q: Will the new launcher allow two characters from the same account to connect simultaneously on Atys?
A:
No, this is not technically feasible. As today, therefore, the simultaneous connection of several characters will only be possible if they are under different accounts.

Q: Will our guild channels soon benefit, like others, from automatic translation?
A:
Most likely, yes. This is one of the requests under examination within the RT.

3 - Implementation of high-definition textures

Tamarea & Ulukyn (RT) – 21:11 UTC
Icons, user interface textures and all Atys maps have been enlarged by IA to get an improved HD version.
This improvement, currently under test, will be added in-game in the next patch.

Q: Will this HD version compensate for the visibility defect found when the value of the local interface parameter (scale) is greater than 1.00?
A:
Yes, with these HD textures the tests confirm a very correct visibility for a value of 2.00 and they continue in order to improve the icon texts for intermediate values.

Q: Will the API be updated accordingly?
A:
We are working on this update, but it is not without difficulties. However, all the images made available in the API will be in their HD version as soon as the next patch is released.

4 - Boss refactoring

Tamarea & Riasan (RT) – 21:28 UTC
For those who are not familiar with this project, it is detailed in the (FR) document available at this address:https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/Nbfndk8YacDJwBG et qui sera publié sous peu sur le forum.
Latest developments :
- all the new spots of Boss' pop have been added ;
- all new Bosses and the loots they drop have been created and their translations are under testing.

Q: Will the names of the current Bosses be changed?
A:
Non. Mais il y en aura de nouveaux !

Q: Will the value of the items collected from the remains of a Boss be related to the level of the latter?
A:
Yes, the loot obtained from a low level Boss has less value than that obtained from a high level Boss.

Q: Is another test phase scheduled? And if so, for when?
A:
Yes, a test phase on the development server will start soon (there are still some problems with the new loots and we hope to have it finished by the end of this week.

Q: Will a Boss of level N now be able to give up to his executors a loot of higher quality than N?
A:
No: a killed Boss still provides a loot of equal quality to his level.

Q: Will there be Boss level lower than 70 and intermediate to the current scale (70 | 120 | 170 | 220 | 270)?
A:
No, but the number of Bosses will increase significantly for each level of the recalled scale.

Q: When will these changes take effect in game?
A:
As soon as possible, i.e. as soon as conclusive tests are completed... tests whose duration depends on the number of volunteer testers.

Q: Will there be new Bosses accessible for beginner characters (on Silan)?
A:
No, the project concerns only the continents and the Prime Roots.

Q: Will there be other "corrupt" Bosses, like Cratchakyo was?
A:
No, this is not planned at the moment.

5 - Events

Tamarea & Ulukyn – 22:04 UTC
The live events (scripted ones) resume at the rate of one per week.
Regarding the Storyline, the end of episode 1 is approaching and the beginning of episode 2 is coming soon!

Q: Is it planned to link live events to the Storyline?
A:
Yes, a first one will take place soon, by the way.

Q: Will the Storyline prologue (the rumors) be debugged before the launch of its episode 2?
A:
Yes, this to allow newcomers to unroll the episodes in order. It will also be improved in its operation to make it easier to play.

6 - Recrutement

Tamarea – 22:19 UTC
We are now focusing on recruiting volunteer testers. We have several additions under test (launcher, Boss refactoring...) and in order for them to come quickly into play, we need more testers.
If you are interested in joining the testing team, contact Tamarea on chat.ryzom.com or by email at tamarea@ryzom.com.

Q Are volunteer testers notified individually of the dates and times of the tests they are asked to run, or do they have to watch for a request to appear on a page listing all of them?
A:
No. The dates and times are, if necessary (group testing), determined jointly on the dedicated Ryzom Chat channel where the use of the @all mention allows all testers subscribed to the channel to be notified by email. But individual test requests are simply posted on a scheduling table. The suggestion of individual notification for casual testers will however be carefully considered.

Q: What exactly is expected of a tester?
A:
Play an addition or a patch to the game, spot possible bugs in its operation and then tell us about them on the document gathering the feedbacks from the testers. But also, if it is an addition, give us your opinion on it, so that we can improve it before it is put into service on the game server.

Q: When a test is in Waiting column of the scheduling table (KanBoard), is it still possible to complete the feedbacks' pad?
A:
When a test is in Waiting, it means that the test object has been handed to the developers for them to fix the bugs reported by the testers. It will be handed over to the testers (put again in column Testing) once the correction completed.

Q: Shouldn't volunteer testers be trained and accompanied, even if only a minimum, when they first join the team?
A:
Yes, probably. We are thinking about that.

Q (off-topic): Is the Scenographic Editor scheduled to come back in game?
A (unexpected):
Yes, this is the next scheduled development task, by the way.

The meeting is closed at 23:00 UTC.

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Ryzom Forge meeting (March 15th 2021)


Date: monday, March 15th, 20:30 UTC (21:30 CET)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public forge channel
or
  • Ryzom Chat, channel #pub-forge-xx (exhttps://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pub-forge-en


Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.

Topic
: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    Information about the new launcher
    Feedback on the last patch
    Refugee Days (Easter OOC events)
    News of the volunteer team (Ryzom Team)

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Ryzom Team Manager
(FR / EN / ES)

tamarea@ryzom.com

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – March 15th, 2021

1 - Information about the new launcher

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:34 UTC
The new launcher/installer having already been presented during the previous Ryzom Forge meetings, I won't dwell on it and I just want to give you here a small state of play and progress about it.
• As far as Windows is concerned, several big annoying bugs have been fixed, but a major one remains. After its correction (and if no other big bug is discovered by then), we will be able, I think, to propose the launcher in beta test to more players.
• As far as Linux is concerned, nothing special to report. But as this OS has a lot of versions, note that the untested ones are probably numerous too.
• As far as macOS is concerned, it is the least tested OS at the moment. So we have called again for testers who use it regularly and if some here want to join the ongoing tests, they are welcome, especially if they use its older versions.
So we are quite close to a release for beta testers (to whom it is recommended to save their data before starting the test... you never know). But we can't specify today the date of this release, since, among other things, the decision to localize or not the interface in the five languages before the beta test is not yet taken.

2 - Feedback on the last patch applied

Tamarea (RT) – 20:48 UTC
What are your feedbacks (opinions and suggestions) on the new features and improvements brought by the patch applied on February 11th (see here for its features)?
For those who can't see the link above, the patch in question was about :
  • Updated textures
  • Marauders Fame
  • Improvements
  • Updates with Integrated auto-translation (DeepL)
  • The Course
  • Marauder gameplay
  • Test OP at the Nexus

Q: Does this patch make it possible to permanently disable in-game machine translation via DeepL?
A:
 The wiki shows (here and there) the command (available since August 2019) to do this. Namely:
/a setDontTranslateLangs [acronyms of the two languages involved separated by the pipe character]
Example: /a setDontTranslateLangs fr|us disables the automatic translation into american English of sentences sent by a French client.


Q: How do I report new errors made by DeepL to the Ryzom Team?
A:
To report translation exceptions to add to DeepL, you can use the RYZOM FORGE forum, thread Translation » DeepL translation exceptions list.

F: Couldn't we avoid that DeepL translates the names of characters appearing in a sentence?

Q: Are the updates and patches automatically downloaded or is there an address where one has to go to download them?
A:
Updates and patches are automatically downloaded to your machine the first time you log in after they are applied to the server.

Q: Wouldn't the inability of a character who has just left the Marauders faction to join a guild or have access to teleportation be a consequence of the patch?
A:
Probably not, but it can be reported to Support.

Q: Isn't the lack of translation (blank page when clicking on the [Translate] button) of the forum posts a consequence of the patch?
A:
No, probably. But, then again, this can be reported to the support team, specifying the involved OS and browser.

3 - Refugee Days (Easter OOC events)

Tamarea (RT) – 21:38 UTC
The OOC events for the Refugee Days (Easter events) will take place from Friday, March 26th to Monday, April 12th.
Details will, as usual, be posted on the forum beforehand.

4 - News of the volunteer team (Ryzom Team)

Tamarea (RT) – 21:39 UTC
First of all, I would like to thank all the volunteers of the Ryzom team who, by giving their time and energy, by bringing their ideas and their dynamism, contribute daily to the life and progress of this game that we all hold dear. THANK YOU!
• As for gameplay, this year the team's goal is to finish the projects underway and implement long promised features, without neglecting the Storyline, which will bring new content. We also plan to rework Silan a bit in order to better guide new players on this tutorial island.
• As for roleplay, we will continue to offer regular events, at the rate of one per week, whether or not related to the Storyline.
• De plus, suite aux retours des testeurs, le mode de fonctionnement de l'équipe de test est en cours de révision avec la mise en place d'une organisation plus structurée et plus simple.
• Lastly, in order to facilitate the work of volunteers, the Devs are creating or updating various internal tools :
    – a tool for CSRs, including a new ticket system;
    – a tool for testers to simplify their task;
    – a tool for translators to facilitate translations and corrections of in-game text;
    – a tool for communication (broadcasts, announcements on the WebIG).
I leave the floor to those who want to react on this subject.

Q: Which projects are underway?
A:
This is indeed a point worth developing. Given the time, I'll note it as a topic for the next Ryzom Forge meeting.

The meeting is closed at 22:00 UTC.

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Precision given after the meeting end: The list of current projects is visible on the roadmap (button ''roadmap'' on the WebIG homepage).

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Tamarea
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Ryzom Forge meeting (April 12th 2021)


Date: monday, April 12th, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public forge channel
or
  • Ryzom Chat, channel #pub-forge-xx (exhttps://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pub-forge-en


Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.
Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    [Feedback] Your opinion about the Refugee Days OOC events
    [Information] Progress of ongoing projects: new launcher, marauder gameplay, OP refactoring, AIS changes

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Compte-Rendu de la réunion de Ryzom Forge – 12 Avril 2021

1 - Retours les events HRP de la Fête des Réfugiés

Tamarea (RT) – 19:32 UTC
Les events de la Fête des Réfugiés viennent de se terminer, aussi nous aimerions avoir vos avis sur ceux-ci.
Qu'avez-vous aimé dans ces events ? Qu'y a-t-il à améliorer selon vous ?

Neuf retours :
• L'image à reconstituer aurait pu être un peu plus grande, mais l'ensemble était génial.
• Un bon point pour le radar n'affichant pas les positions des petits œufs, mais ceci semble avoir eu une influence sur la portée du dit radar.
Ullukyn confirme : même s'il n'apparaissent pas au radar, les petits œufs comptent parmi les entités visibles par le joueur et réduisent de ce fait la visibilité générale.
• Dommage que les œufs de réfugié ne m'aient fait gagner aucun article intéressant (seulement des dappers, qui me sont inutiles), mais j'ai bien aimé l'ensemble.
• Rien à dire sur les events (comme la chasse aux rendors), sinon que je les aurais souhaités plus nombreux et collectifs : le pop d'œufs en nombre partout sur Atys, je l'ai trop vu et revu et il il a causé bogues et latences.
• Contrairement à l'an dernier, les rendors n'avaient pas un comportement social. Je me demande si ceci qui, ne contraignant pas au rassemblement des joueurs en équipes, permet à chacun de farmer régulièrement à son rythme (y compris en solo), est un bonne chose.
• J'ai trouvé bien pensée la répartition des œufs (ils n'étaient pas vraiment "partout"), mais il y aurait à mon sens avantage à les rendre encore plus rares, ce pour augmenter le plaisir de la recherche.
• S'agissant des rendors, j'ai trouvé que leur "force" était disproportionnée pour Silan et que voir son personnage de niveau 250 tomber sous les coups d'un un mob de niveau 22 était, au moins, étrange. Il me semble qu'il aurait été préférable de les positionner au Bois d'Almati.
Tamarea précise : les rendors ont été positionnés sur Silan pour que les nouveaux joueurs puissent profiter de la "diversion" dans leur vie d'apprenti que leur présence (et celle de leurs chasseurs) apporterait. Un participant confirme d'ailleurs avoir eu au moins un retour positif de la part d'un nouveau joueur.
• Globalement, la Fête offrait peu d'activités accessibles aux personnages de bas niveau, hors la chasse aux œufs d'O'Dunny. Bonne idée que cette dernière, d'ailleurs : le compteur motivait la recherche en lui fixant un objectif.
• En ce qui concerne l'image à reconstituer, j'aurais préféré pouvoir visiter à mon rythme toutes les tribus d'Atys plutôt que d'avoir à patienter 30 minutes avant de connaître la prochaine à visiter : jouer plus de 15 heures d'affilée est impossible pour moi.
R:
Merci pour vos retours, qui seront tous transmis aux créateurs de ces events.

2 - Le futur lanceur/installeur Ryztart

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:02 UTC
Craignant qu'un ajout ultérieur ne soit problématique, nous avons voulu prendre le temps d'ajouter une fonctionnalité à Ryztart avant de le mettre en service.
À savoir : Ryztart permet désormais de se connecter avec votre nom de compte et mot de passe sans avoir à les saisir au lancement du jeu et il récupèrere automatiquement la liste de vos personnages et celle des serveurs (Atys, Yubo et/ou Gingo) auxquels votre compte a accès.
L'objectif de cet ajout étant de rendre le lanceur plus sûr, l'essentiel du travail a été de concevoir un système évitant d'avoir à stocker nom de compte et mot de passe sur l'ordinateur. Ainsi, désormais, Ryztart n'enregistre qu'un jeton, lequel permet, et permet seulement, la connexion au jeu. Ryztart peut en outre créer sur votre bureau des raccourcis vers vos personnages ne contenant, eux non plus, ni le nom de compte, ni le mot de passe. Enfin, ces raccourcis ou Ryztart lui-même peuvent lancer la connexion d'un personnage sans passer par l'étape "Sélection du personnage" (NB : ceci est déjà possible pour qui sait quels paramètres fournir au lanceur actuel).

Q : Vu que certains en utilisent plusieurs (pour se connecter sous différents comptes), les profils seront-ils sauvegardés ?
R :
Oui : Ryztart permet de les importer depuis le lanceur actuel et il gère tant les profils (dossiers 0 1 2 3 …) que les raccourcis.

Q : Y aura-t-il une version pour Linux ?
R :
Oui : les versions pour Linux et Windows sont déjà utilisées par les premiers testeurs. Seule la version pour macOs demande encore un petit délai.

Q : L'ancien lanceur sera-t-il encore fonctionnel, au cas où ?
R :
Oui, ainsi que la possibilité de lancer directement le client. Cependant, dès que Ryztart sera officiellement mis en ligne, nous n'assurerons plus d'assistance aux utilsateurs pour son ancienne version.

Q : Les raccourcis (Windows) permettront-il la connexion simultanée de deux personnages d'un même compte ?
R :
Non : la connexion de plusieurs personnages d'un même compte demeure impossible.

Q : Qu'en est-il de Windows 7 ?
R :
Des premiers tests qui ont été menés, mais la derniere version de Ryztart reste à tester sous Windows 7… avec votre concours, si vous le souhaitez. En tout cas, nous vous tiendrons informés.

Q : Quels retours pour les tests sous macOS 11 ?
R :
Comme Ryztart pour macOS n'est pas encore opérationnel à 100%, les tests restent à mener, là aussi.

3 - Le gameplay des Maraudeurs

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:24 UTC
Nous poursuivons le développement commencé voici déjà fort longtemps. Et de nouvelles tribus passeront prochainement sous l'allégeance des Maraudeurs, comme annoncé lors de plusieurs events RP récents.

4 - Refonte des batailles d'avant-poste

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:27 UTC
Nous avons commencé le travail sur le projet de refonte des batailles d'avant-poste.
Comme certains l'ont sans doute remarqué, quatre avant-postes sont apparus au Nexus, de quatre "niveaux" différents (100, 150, 200 et 250).
Leurs noms laissent entendre qu'ils ne sont pas "comme les autres" et ne fonctionneront pas du tout de la même manière. En fait, les modalités de leur fonctionnement évolueront au fur et à mesure de l'avancement du projet de refonte.
Dans un premier temps, leur conquête sera l'occasion de batailles GvE (une guilde seule combattant les PNJ défendant l'avant-poste), aucun ne sera propriété d'un guilde (ni n'hébergera, donc, de foreuse). Ceci dans l'objectif de d'abord tester dans les meilleures conditions l'impact du raccourcissement projeté de la durée des batailles (de deux heures à une seule).

Q : Durant cette période de test, les batailles comprendront-elles toujours deux phases ?
R :
Non, car il s'agit d'avant-postes de test. S'il est conquis au bout d'une heure de bataille, un avant-poste sera rétrocédé aussitôt à ses propriétaires : les PNJ défenseurs (des maraudeurs hors faction). Mais, comme toute bataille, si elle peut représenter un défi gratifiant à relever, coûte de l'équipement, des munitions et du temps à ceux qui la mènent. Les guildes testeuses seront donc recompensées de leur engagement (à une hauteur qui reste à déterminer).
Nous avons prévu qu'une guilde puisse lancer une attaque par semaine, ce qui laisse espérer quatre tests par semaine (un pour chacun des avant-postes) qui devraient permettre à tous de pouvoir participer.


Q : Les combattants seront-ils taggés et le JcJ autorisé durant ces batailles de test ?
R :
Il s'agit de batailles d'avant-poste, donc les attaquants seront taggés OP, oui. Mais ils s'agit aussi de combats GvE auxquels, afin de ne pas fausser les tests, seuls les PJ de la guilde attaquante participeront, sans PJ alliés ou ennemis, donc sans possibilité de JcJ.

Q : Quand débutera cette phase de test ?
R :
Les avant-postes de test étant déjà en place et le développement progressant sans anicroche, nous espérons la lancer dans les prochaines semaines.

Q : Le niveau des PNJ défenseurs sera-t-il identique pour les quatre avant-postes ?
R :
Non. Comme pour les avant-postes des autres régions, ce niveau est fonction de la qualité des matières premières qu'il est susceptible de produire. L'avant poste de "niveau" 100 du Nexus sera, comme ailleurs, plus aisé à "conquérir" que l'avant-poste de niveau 250. Une guilde pourra ainsi juger de sa progression dans l'exercice du combat au vu du niveau de l'avant-poste qu'elle parvient à conquérir ou du seuil qu'elle parvient à lui faire atteindre.

Q : Le niveau de chacun des avant-postes sera-t-il immuable ?
R :
Oui. Et une fois le projet finalisé, c'est à dire une fois la refonte des avant-postes effective sur tout Atys (les tests au Nexus ne sont en effet que les premiers d'une longue série), seule la nature des matières premières produites par un avant-poste évoluera entre les batailles, non leur qualité.

Q : L'implantation de nouveaux avant-postes, par exemple en Primes Racines, est-elle prévue ?
R :
Non. Pour lors, notre priorité est l'achèvement du projet en cours : nous ne souhaitons pas le ralentir en nous éparpillant.

Q : Étant donné la qualité de "zone JcJ" du Nexus, qu'est-ce qui empêchera quiconque d'attaquer la guilde occupée au test d'un avant-poste ?
R :
Le JcJ d'avant-poste empêche le JcJ de guilde par construction, tout simplement.

Q : Est-ce à dire que vous pourrez forer ou chasser tranquillement durant une heure au Nexus pour peu que votre guilde soit engagée dans une attaque test d'avant-poste ?
R :
En principe oui. Remarque pertinente.

Q (hors-sujet) : Quand seront finalisées les armes de tir, comme l'ont été les armes 1 main ?
R :
Notre objectif étant actuellement de terminer un maximum de projets en cours afin d'avoir un rythme constant et une équipe de plus en plus efficace nous avons dû repousser le lancement de certains autres. Ainsi, la mise au point définitive des armes de tir n'est-elle pas abandonnée, loin de là. Elle est simplement mise en attente.
Si vous souhaitez cependant participer au groupe de travail qui réfléchit malgré tout sur le sujet, vous pouvez contacter Tamarea en privé.


Q (hors-sujet) : Est-il prévu de faire quelque chose pour dynamiser le JcJ hors avant-poste afin de le rendre plus attractif ? Sinon, ne serait-il pas possible de tenir une réunion abordant ce sujet ?
R :
Nous aimerions pouvoir traiter tous les sujets, toutes les problématiques et toutes les dificultés que peuvent rencontrer les joueurs. Mais nous ne pouvons pas répondre dans l'immédiat à toutes les demandes, ce serait contre-productif.

5 - Amélioration de l'AIS du serveur.

Ulukyn (RT) – 21:12 UTC
Cette formulation énigmatique désigne en fait les ajouts apportés au serveur pour améliorer l'intelligence artificielle (AIS) gérant les actions et capacités des créatures et PNJ évoluant en son sein.
Or ces ajouts, navré d'avoir à vous l'annoncer, ont donné à des idées à notre chère Teanwen pour vous faire transpirer. Car ils se traduisent notamment par l'élargissement aux PNJ d'events ponctuels de certaines capacités jusque là propres aux PNJ d'avant-poste : lance-grenades, bombes, soins, etc. Ainsi, comme elle l'a déjà fait autrefois, Teanwen s'occupera à nouveau de machiner et piloter des animations et events où les joueurs devront combattre des "mini-boss" capables, cette fois, d'utiliser un lance-grenades, de se soigner, de lancer des bombes ou du gaz…
Ces events mini-boss seront annoncés à l'avance par broadcast en jeu. Notez que les modifications de l'AIS ont fortement augmenté les possibilités techniques : attendez-vous donc à bien des surprises lors de ces petits events !

Q : Est-ce que ces ajouts vont améliorer les patrouilles des PNJ (que je trouve un peu ternes) dans les diverses zones ?
R :
Non. Ils n'impactent que les animations et les évènements. Il ne constituent pas une refonte de tous les PNJ et créatures du jeu, mais permettent seulement de donner de nouvelles possiblités aux animateurs et ARKitectes.

La réunion est close à 21:32 UTC

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From Agenda: [Information] Progress of ongoing projects: new launcher, marauder gameplay, OP refactoring, AIS changes.


So Marauder gameplay haven't been discussed at all, right?

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Right, Sinvaders.
Not an oversight of mine.

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Ryzom Forge meeting (April 26th 2021)


Date: monday, April 26th, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public forge channel
or
  • Ryzom Chat, channel #pub-forge-xx (exhttps://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pub-forge-en


Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.

Topic
: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    [Presentation] Ryzom's marketing plan: increase player loyalty
    [Presentation] Silan Refactoring project

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Tamarea
Ryzom Team Manager
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tamarea@ryzom.com

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Tamarea
Ryzom Team Manager
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tamarea@ryzom.com

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – April 26 2021

1 - Win players' loyalty: a more attractive game

Tamarea (RT) – 19:39 UTC
A 2021 marketing plan has been developed by the Ryzom Team, which pursues three goals:
1. Win players' loyalty
2. Get more subscribers
3. Attract new players
We will detail today the actions undertaken by the team to achieve the first objective, and your suggestions to enrich them will be welcome.

We are losing too many players, including high-level players, because of the lack of new content to motivate them to log in, because the long-promised additions are still overdue, and because the pace of maintenance remains slow.
That's why we decided to focus on the projects already underway and on maintenance. Specifically:
• To complete ongoing and long-announced projects: new launcher/installer, Boss refactoring, outpost battles refactoring, Marauders' gameplay, balancing of range weapons (see information given during previous Ryzom Forge meetings).
• To add new events to the Storyline on a regular basis, each leading to new permanent gameplay content.
• To not neglect maintenance: fixing bugs, adding new rewards, etc.
The upcoming patch will begin to put some of this content into play, with the activation of the test outposts of the Nexus and the gradual addition of the new Bosses.
• To encourage roleplay which, while remainining of course optional, is one of the raisons d’être of the MMORPG Ryzom. So, to make roleplayers want to stay, the team is working on two axes:
• School of initiation to role-playing (in project)
• Regular (weekly) events, impacting or not the History of Atys

Do you have any questions or comments about these actions?

Four comments:
• I confirm my availability to carry on with the tests needed for the rebalancing of range weapons I started in the past with Tykus and to participate in the tests of outpost battles.
• If we want to win their loyalty, I think we first need to find the reasons why new players are currently leaving the game. I'm thinking especially of crashes: new players (especially the current generation) having an abundance of games at their disposal, they have no problem abandoning a game after an umpteenth crash.
• As far as roleplay is concerned, I think it's a pity that the weekly events are almost all one-shots, episodes with no aftermath, that they don't build, little by little, a Story. However, I thank the team for the frequency and the quality of the events proposed to the casual roleplayers (of which I am).
• As for me, I think that the weekly events do build a Story, but that this one is difficult to follow because of its scattering, via the events, in several different episodes in different places. As a result, it is difficult for many Atysians to gather these episodes into a Story (difficult, but not impossible should you explore the Wiki and the messages posted to the forum). Perhaps grouping the events by month and nation (i.e. one month's worth of History episodes about Trykers, then one month's worth of History episodes about Zorai, etc.) would improve things... except that it would be felt as unfair by the uninvolved nations of the month. *frown*
In short: if, for me, a coherent History is on the way, I unfortunately have no idea what would help to make it better known to all.


Thank you for your feedback, which will of course be passed on to Event team.

2 - Win players' loyalty: an improved tutorial

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:07 UTC
In order to increase player loyalty, in addition to offering more attractive game content, we will work to better guide new players. We actually lose a lot of them shortly after they arrive on the tutorial island of Silan. After investigating the causes of this, we agreed on a possible remediation. This is how the Silan refactoring project was born, which will not result in a big change but only in various adjustments and improvements.
The objective of this refactoring is twofold:
• on the one hand, give the desire to new players to go further (at the moment very few of them take the step - i.e. pass to the continent);
• on the other hand, try to make the global experience of the game more homogeneous (at the moment, as Dorothée – may she be thanked – pointed out during the RT meeting preparing this one, there are too many differences between the game on Silan and the one on mainland).
Said Improvements and adjustments are planned for:
• The map of Silan Island. To make it more useful for beginners it:
   • will no longer be shown to players alone, but with the general map of Atys;
   • will allow the player to zoom in on the Ranger Camp (as is the case on the mainland towns);
   • will display icons showing the location of NPCs useful to players (at their stage of progress).
• Texts describing missions that are currently unclear, such as those that present a team-building suggestion as a necessity to players who cannot (or do not know how to) form a team.
• Damages from creature attacks near the Ranger Camp. They will be reduced as it currently causes too many deaths. Character dying too frequently suggests to players that the game is not for them, or that they have misunderstood the rules, increasing the risk that they will abandon Ryzom without delay.

Three comments:
• As for damage reduction, I would say that it has already been started, considering the speed with which the DP is cancelled on Silan. And if the player fears the death of his characters, let him go play Candy Crush! *smile*
• I think this is a bit too much easing the work for beginners. Many times some of them don't even understand that Silan is a tutorial.
• Most of the new players don't even seem to read the texts said by (or posted near) the Silan trainers (Guilan Guiter, Nomis Merclao, etc.). I think they should be offered other ways of learning.

3 - Win players' loyalty: a friendlier learning process

Ulukyn (RT) – 20:14 UTC
Actually, few players take the time to read everything (this is natural: the excitement of discovering a new game pushes them to immediate action, not to think about its mechanisms).
So I'm going to show you what we have planned to overcome the disadvantages of this understandable haste.
We won't rewrite the mission texts: it would require too much time. But I've noticed, when accompanying players who don't know Ryzom in their first session, that displaying an adapted screenshot on their screen was often more efficient than giving them a long speech to explain them such or such gameplay mechanism.
This is why we will introduce the concept of schools (or academies) whose function will be to provide in-game "Academic Knowledge" that will be available, at any time, to all players and delivered in the form of practical lessons that will guide them, in a visual and playful way, in the accomplishment of the missions as well as in their actual learning. Each school will contain several pieces of information about a gameplay topic (e.g., the mastery of magic or that of jewelry) or a more general topic (e.g., the game's interface, or even, as mentioned above, role-playing).
Below a prototype, for the school of "Melee fight mastery", of a window showing in game the information made available by a school.



It presents a teaching plan with four sections (or lessons), which can be activated (if your progress allows it) or not (greyed out) so that you do not get lost in a long list. When you activate a lesson, a list of exercises to do (presented in the form of cards) will be proposed to you. Once you have completed all the exercises on this list, you will be offered a reward.
You will find below a prototype, for "Elementary Movements", of a sheet describing such an exercise.



It is composed of four parts displaying respectively:
• A title with a short explanation in subtitle
• An illustrated goal, optional (button to click for acceptance)
• A small reward, optional (button to be clicked for recovery once the goal reached)
• A set of pictures to make it easier to understand how to reach the goal.
Why, you may ask, propose an objective and a reward and not only the explanation and the illustrations? Quite simply because proposing an action in exchange for a reward is more motivating and fun, much more so than a long explanation text.

Do you have any questions?

Q: Are there any plans to rework the character creation phase as well?
A:
No. Not as part of the Silan refactoring, anyway.

Q: Does Silan refactoring include informing new players about the existence of teleports on the island (many don't know)?
A:
Yes. The goal is for new players to get on Silan a real taste of what to expect on the mainland.

Q: Will the enhanced tutorial use the key assignments listed in the player's keys_character.xml file?
A:
Yes. And by the way, the player will be able to change these assignments in-game through the exercise cards provided by the school, without having to search for the relevant window in the (very dense) UI.

Q: Since it is difficult to accumulate Dappers on Silan, will the cost of teleporting there be changed?
A:
No. But players will be able to get more Dappers through the exercises offered by the schools (they will often offer them as rewards).

Q: Will Silanese be able to buy mounts?
A:
Yes. The refactoring includes the establishment of a stable on the island.

Q: I don't think a tutorial should have hidden or secret places. So, will the tunnel to the Kitins Jungle be easier to find, or will there be better directions to its location in the Shining Lake?
A:
The access to the Kitins Jungle was intentionally designed as a (little) puzzle, so we don't have anything like that planned, no. But we'll think about making the mission sending players to fight the kitins into their territory more explicit.

Q: Will players be able to take a mektoub acquired on Silan to the mainland?
A:
Yes, as forcing players to give up their equipment would be as counter-productive for us (given the goal of the refactoring) as it would be catastrophic for them.

Q: Henchomins of the Kamis and Karavan on Silan are currently urging caution by suggesting that returning to the island will be difficult, if not impossible. Will their speeches be more supportive (like "I can send you there. It's a dangerous place, but you can come back here anytime.") after the refactoring?
A:
Yes. It's a great idea and we will implement it!

Q: Because a mount is also (or even mostly) a storage space and what it stores is not always easily recoverable after its death, we see few characters moving mounted, on Atys. Couldn't an option of remote recovery of the mount's freight be proposed?
A:
We are working on this: a new feature to allow recovery of any dead pet against Elyps is being tested. Offering such an option on Silan would actually be a good introduction to Elyps for new players, provided the cost of acquiring them is adapted.

Q (off-topic): Regarding Elyps, even if the benefits they provide are valuable (generic materials, high quality items, pet operations, etc.) I find them very scarcely distributed during kitin invasions: killing one kitin is rewarded with one Elyps only. Are there any plans to improve this ratio or to provide kitin invasions more frequently than they have been lately?
A:
No. But we take note of your feeling.

4 - Win players' loyalty: comments and suggestions

(21:03 UTC)
• Silan offering beginners more opportunities and a good overview of what awaits them on the mainland, to avoid their early flight, that's fine. But I think we shouldn't make them too rich on the island: that might make them stay there, never to take the plunge.
Ulukyn points out in this regard that nothing offered by the refactored Silan will be free, and that no player staying on the island will be able to accumulate the millions of Dappers and thousands of Elyps that can be collected on the mainland.
• I too think that setting the cost of acquiring items new in Silan lower than it is on the mainland is to be preferred to setting a higher amount for the Dappers rewarding the completing of the current missions.
Whereupon Ulukyn solicits the opinion of a beginner player attending the meeting on the point.
• (from the said player) As far as Dappers are concerned, I would not increase the amounts distributed in any way. As for the skill points, on the other hand, maybe we should reduce the need for them or increase the quality of the items they provide. Since it's not easy on Silan to get all the skills.
Reacting to this last point, Ulukyn indicates that the difficulty of choosing skills on Silan as well as the fact that not everything can be acquired there was discussed within the team and that a proposal was made to classify them (thanks to groups of stars) according to their greater or lesser usefulness… whereupon a participant proposes to straightly suppress the beginning of their acquisition on Silan.
• Some players are already surprised that the shooting skills are not available on Silan. So I think that removing them all is to be avoided. As for the star rating of skills, it risks "formatting" the game. I like Ryzom because it doesn't force me to push a certain skill but allows me, after reading all the texts about them, to freely choose which one(s) my character will work on.
Ulukyn says that, as the team wants to improve the branch and introduce it to new players, a shooting school will be offered on Silan. Because, he adds, only an informed one is actually a truly free choice and informing about skills is not forcing to embrace them, as giving them would be (as some MMOs do). On which the previous speaker clarifies that it is not the information on skills that makes fear a formatting of players, but their classification.
• For me, I think the tutorial should make it clear that getting more skilled on melee is the best way to get extra hit points and also that it would benefit from pointing to the Bunny Tools app.
Ulukyn clarified that while Bunny Tools is indeed a good app, it is and will remain external. He adds that each school will teach a path (a branch) with a precise indication of the necessary and useful skills to be acquired to follow the path in question and, as much as possible, the possibilities offered by the different blends of those. The goal remains to give players all the information they need to make an informed choice.
• Silan is in my opinion a pretty complete tutorial as it is now. So, if adding icons to better indicate this or that point seems useful to me, the rest of the refactoring is not, I think, a good idea. Because giving everything to new players as soon as Silan will deprive them of the surprise of discovering Atys. Simplify Silan, why not? But from there to make it a mini-Atys… we might as well remove it and make new players be born directly on Atys.
Ulukyn recalls that it is not a question of turning Silan into a mini-Atys, but only of making sure that Silan gives new players the means to be autonomous, to know what and how to look for on Atys as soon as they set foot there. Because currently, arriving on the mainland is a surprise, yes: to discover almost another game. So the refactoring is not about remaking Atys on Silan, but about providing tantalizing glimpses of Atys on Silan.
• The fact remains that the pleasure of discovery, even of a "quasi-new" game, is what makes Ryzom a unique game. And as for the autonomy on the continent, it can be obtained quite quickly by new players thanks to the help of the seasoned ones, as it is currently practiced.
(Ulukyn goes on) Today, new players arriving on Atys know nothing about what awaits them there. In order to encourage them to join the mainland, we think it is important to let them know (without, of course, going into details) that they will find many more means and activities (Elyps, occupations, role-playing, dynamic events, etc.) than just the dappers, missions and skill acquisitions that they are currently presented while on Silan.
• I actually think that there is too much information available on mainland and not enough on Silan, except for the classes (branches), for which the ratio is the opposite.
• Integrating the Silan map with the Atys one is a great idea: it will make new players curious about the mainland and show them that the have still much to explore.
• Many players I know have actually left Ryzom thinking that the playing field was limited to Silan. For the same reason, some have played Ryzom for only two months… time to exhaust the pleasures of Silan.
This Ulukyn confirms by saying that one of the first questions he is asked when he has the game tested is: "Is this the map of the entire game area?".
• When I was on Silan, I actually had the feeling that I was alone, playing on a map that was empty of players. And it didn't make me want to go on. That's why I think it would be good to encourage experienced players to come back to the island more often.
Ulukyn points out that the lessons offered by the Silan schools will probably not only be of interest to new players, but also to players not so experienced for having only recently joined the mainland. The latter will then naturally be led to return to Silan to complete the incomplete training they have received from the current tutorial.
• To fight against this feeling of loneliness of the beginner, wouldn't it also be wise to replace the /who command by a button of UI, of easier use for all?
Ulukyn advises the speaker to post his suggestion to the forum. Because the latter is regularly consulted by contributors who are developers, therefore able to propose the RT a patch implementing it.
• Why not carry out, at the time when the players address to Chiang the Strong to emigrate towards the continent, a survey of satisfaction in order to collect their feelings and opinion on Silan?
Ulukyn indicates that such a survey has already been conducted by him with players who, at his request, tested the game with him during three days. He adds that it has been used, as well as the occasional feedback received from new players and a very critical video about Ryzom (which, if you don't already know it, you can find here), to elaborate the tutorial improvement project presented today.
• Will players, at the said time, be advised to contact the Welcomer of the city they have chosen as destination for their journey to the mainland?
Ulukyn says yes, because the team believes that anything that helps new players find their way around is a good thing, no matter what form it takes (text, school lesson, or visual cue), and that if they don't know what they can (or can't) do there, they're unlikely to enjoy the game.
• Having personally benefited on my arrival from the free services of a quality teacher (an experienced player) I confirm that the rules guaranteeing a good learning of the game rules (and their respect) by players must themselves be learned.
• Some elements of the UI seem to me deserve to be corrected or made adaptable. For example, the size of the cursor in 4K: as, playing on a 55" screen, I already have trouble seeing it, I wonder how others cope.
Ulukyn commits himself to bring up the suggestion.
• As we all are not as good at learning foreign languages as some, I think an automatic translation of private in-game conversations (/tell) would also be very useful.
Ulukyn answers that unfortunately it is not possible to add such an option at the moment.

The meeting is closed at 22:09 UTC

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