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#192 Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – July 20th, 2020

1 - DeepL : improvements and feedback

Tykus (RT) – 19:38 UTC
Now the universe channel and the region channel (including Silan) are translated by the automatic translator DeepL into the client's language. This way, you read directly what the players say in the language you have selected to play Ryzom.
Each translation displayed in the channel is preceded by a flag indicating the original language. To display the sentence in its original language, simply move the cursor over this flag, the translation will be displayed above it.
What are your opinions on this new feature?

Feedback : In principle, this is a really good idea for anyone who only speaks one language, but one should be able to choose which translations are wanted. For example, while I appreciate having the translations from DE and ES into FR, I do not need the translations from EN into FR.
A:
As our system is unique (there is no similar system), this is not easy to implement. For the moment, the translation is activated on the server side, so the player's client can't deactivate it, but it will come: just be patient.

Feedback : If you read the UNIVERSE channel assiduously, you will still find many translation or spelling (DE) errors.
A:
Yes, there are still some adjustments to be made, but the translation is not too bad after all.

Feedback: Thank you for your time and for holding this meeting! I just wanted to reiterate, as someone who only speaks a single language, how nice it is that this feature is added to the game and I'm looking forward to the expanded usage.
Feedback: I think indeed that it is a good improvement and helps a lot :) Even when it is not always perfect. I wish it to become available in even more channels.
A:
Yes, there are plans to extend it to faction and even guild channels if it is useful.

Suggestion: It is not always relevant to have the translation displayed and to have to click on the flag for the original to be displayed. Perhaps, when the original is the EN in particular, this could be reversed?
A:
Note that you can change your client's language to display the original EN directly. In addition, the channels DE, ES, EN, etc. have been recreated, which can be accessed by clicking on the appropriate flag in the [shift+w] window.

2 - New website: feedback

Tykus (RT) – 20:01 UTC
The new website (https://www.ryzom.com) is online!
Don't hesitate to give us your opinion and to let us know if there are any bugs !

Feedback : Can't log with Adblock.
A:
 Yes, but you can disable Adblock on the Ryzom site :-)

Four feedbacks:
• I just wanted to say that it's pretty, rather functional, and that the colors chosen are not bad at all :-)
• The site is lovely, I like it.
• It's very nice, more dynamic, can't wait to see what happens next.
• As a web designer and graphic designer, I don't see any problem with it.
A:
Thank you!

Feedback: In the UNIVERSE section of the site, the Nations are presented in a column too high for them to be seen together. Therefore, it is not very easy to compare them.
A:
Yes, thank you. This problem has already been raised, we'll take care of it.

3 - Storyline: feedback, RP events

Tykus & Tamarea (RT) – 20:24 UTC
Episode 1 of the Storyline began with a barkquake at the Nexus, causing profound upheaval in the region. The homins are investigating on site by carrying out various missions.
In the near future, roleplay events focusing on what's happening in the Nexus will be released by the event team. They will offer a different view of Nexus events for each nation, Rangers and Marauders, which will help each player view the future of Storyline differently depending on the character they play.
What happens in the Nexus is an extremely rich basis for roleplay. And that's just the beginning! You'll see it and experience it over the next events of nations and the next twists and turns.
We would like your feedback on the beginning of this Episode 1.

Q: How do you know if there is an event going on or not?
A:
The roleplay events (which usually last two hours) are listed on the Ryzom website, on the forum (EVENTS section), on the WebIG homepage, in pop-up windows when you log in game, on Facebook, Twitter and Steam. To find out which Storyline events you can participate in, click IG "Open your mission log" in your Missions window, then select the "Storyline" tab.

Six feedbacks:
• It's wonderful to see Ryzom's storyline continue to progress, even though I haven't been involved. Good job events team!
• I, too, find exciting the possible future developments via Storyline: this beginning makes possible much that could (or perhaps should) be logically in future added to the Lore, etc. I applaud.
• Bravo for the addition to the Nexus, congratulations to the developers and writers because I think it fits well in the context of the game. And the missions are fun to do as a team. Congratulations also to those we don't thank very much, to the graphic designers because the interaction windows (Mission booklet, Storyline ...) fit very well into the game.
• Good for a start, a matter to follow!
• Concerning the evolution of the game itself it's great, as long as there is a demand for content from the players.
• I very much like the story and it is a fun part of my daily stuff. I find some parts pretty challenging as they require either a big(ger) team or cannot be done if you are not high-level in both close combat and magic. Yet I find the variety of missions possible very nice. And the need to cooperate, if you are not a high-level character, is actually a good thing, too. Looking at it overall :-)
AND
Three comments:
• The rewards for Nexus missions are unbalanced with respect to daily missions. Winning 20 Elyps per evening with 2 or 3 DPs is too little compared to the 30 Elyps that can be made in just 15 minutes with two daily missions.
• Given the time required for players to complete this event, it would be a good thing to get an appropriate reward at its end.
• It's a pity that Marauders are required to enter the capitals to ask the questions of "Rumors" (the launch event for Season 2 of Storyline, still available), as they have to change their fames. It would have been wiser, in order to encourage more of them to take an interest in Rumors, to reserve for them a certain number of NPCs questionable elsewhere than in capital cities (in their Camp, for example).
A:
Thank you for your feedback and for the comments on the awards, which I trace back to the team concerned.

Feedback : As a player discovering the game again, I feel lost, and I don't know where to start. Snippets of summaries can be found on the forum, but you have to search so hard that you get lost. So I express my "discomfort" at having to search for information all the time, and in the end, not to insist in this search, in the doubt as to its usefulness. For example: would I find by this way how to unblock the Nexus missions (the scientists don't talk to me...)? In short: Storyline is a little bit complex!
AND
Suggestion : Maybe a recap timeline of past events in the Mission booklet or/and an overview with links to relevant wiki articles would help?
A :
Thank you for these feedback and proposal, we will see what we can do to make the information clearer and easier to find. And if others have suggestions on this, please do not hesitate!

Feedback: Just an odd observation: it's kind of funny the way Prime Roots materials can be used in crafting any nations goods… and that any nations materials can be used in Kami and Karavan crafts. So, I wonder what will be dug up out of Nexus involving those latter.
A :
Hehe, mystery! :-)

4 - Recruitement: Event Team

Tamarea & Tykus (RT) – 21:26 UTC
We are looking for volunteer facilitators (scriptwriters and actors / actresses) to write and/or perform roleplay events. Feel free to contact Tamarea on Ryzom Chat https://chat.ryzom.com/direct/tamarea or by email at tamarea@ryzom.com.
Come and help us bring the Storyline to life by becoming an actor/actress at our events!
Training is provided. You will start by playing a secondary character, such as a guard, before gradually playing more important characters when you feel ready. If you are more comfortable writing than playing a character, we also have room for you, because our scenarios don't write themselves! There again, you will start in group work, before writing solo or in pairs, depending on your preference.
We are looking for volunteers from all time zones, including the United States, so that we can also offer roleplay events in US time.
If you are interested, if you are uncertain, if you have any questions, please contact me and we will discuss it!

Meeting closed at 23:22 UTC

Post-Scriptum

Various suggestions were made and various questions asked on topics not on the agenda of the meeting. These were as follows:

Three suggestions:
• Increase the maximum level of characters and mobs above 250.
• Create, based on the team melee aura, an aura of team invulnerability whose activation power would be obtained through an event, the Encyclopedia or the simple addition of a magic skill at high level.
• Add a button to the action bar to clear it with one click (with a confirmation).
A:
Yes, good ideas, but these are topics for the forum: https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=forum/view/1840.

Q1: Will we soon have new information about the Trytonists? I've been waiting for it for a long time (the first event with the guild of Trytonists took place long before the appearance of the Rangers and Marauders).
A:
Your question is well noted and will be forwarded to the animation team.

Q2: No news about multiboxing?
A:
We keep working on multiboxing internally and I will organize a "Special multiboxing" Ryzom Forge meeting as soon as we are ready.

Q3: Why are we sometimes abruptly disconnected from the game (during a teleportation, or a change of character, for example)?
A:
Please contact Support for this kind of problem, or visit https://forge.ryzom.com/wiki/Ryzom_Installer_Manual#Crash_after_t eleporting.

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#193 Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting (August 31, 2020)

Date: Monday, August 31, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)
Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel RF
or

 

Duration: 1.5 hour
Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join
Nature: informative, questions/answers and feedback meeting
Topic: added, in test and ready to be tested projects
Agenda
   1 - HD texture update: see https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/WrgBb8DmTR42K6M
   2 - New billing service: see https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/New_Billing_Service
   3 - Multiboxing
   4 - Bosses refactoring: see https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/sHtn43WJiwtxrBN
   5 - OP refactoring: see https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/pCP3JJgBrrMCgip

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Note: It is advisable to read the documents listed in the agenda above before the meeting.
We will answer your questions during the meeting.

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Tamarea
Ryzom Team Manager
(FR / EN / ES)

tamarea@ryzom.com

#195 Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – August 31th, 2020

1 - HD texture update

Xelios et Jelathnia (Infographics Team) – 19:38 UTC
Project description note: https://cloud.ryzom.com/f/159212
(The links on this note don't work, but you can find more comparison screenshots here: https://imgur.com/a/Kx33JTO)
At this stage we have a good baseline for texture replacement and we work mostly on specific types of textures that require special attention.

Q : Is it possible to test these HD textures on our computer?
A:
Yes it is possible, but for the moment our work must remain in the team, as it is not finalized and the tests to verify its holding in the game are still to be carried out. You could download the PNG files and put them in your User folder, but they are not compressed, so the performance impact (if you see any) will not represent the final version. In addition, some have been modified locally but have not yet been uploaded to the server. Finally, they need to be converted to DDS format to be used by the game.

Q : Would the PBR textures available under Creative Commons on Texture Haven website(https://texturehaven.com/) be interesting for your work?
A:
Yes and no: these textures do not fit with Ryzom's artistic direction but some of them could be useful as partial superimpositions in some cases.

2 - New billing service

Tykus (RT) – 20:03 UTC
Service description note : https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/New_Billing_Service
The new billing service, developed by Ulukyn, is implemented this week.
SirCotare contributed by creating the interface at the website level.

Q: Will all Worldpay subscriptions need to switch to Xsolla? And if so, within what timeframe?
A:
Yes, within a month. Starting in October it will no longer be possible to pay your subscription via Worldpay (that's why the Worldpay option is missing from the interface of the new billing site) but current subscriptions paid via Worldpay will remain active.

b]Q: But don't we have to change the system in three days?
A:[/b] It actually depends on the end of your subscription, but you can change right away, the remaining days will be carried over.

b]Q: Does the price of subscriptions remain the same?
A:[/b] Yes.

b]Q: Nice layout... but would it be possible to have the date of creation of our account displayed again?
A:[/b] Yes, we'll add it on the next update.

3 - Multiboxing

Tamarea (RT) – 20:25 UTC
Our goal is to limit the gameplay impact of the multi-alts gaming as much as possible.
To achieve this, we will act in two steps: an update of the Code of Conduct and a progressive chanhe in the gameplay.
1 - Short-term action: updating the Code of Conduct
• Limit multiboxing to two accounts connected simultaneously during outpost battles, Bosses hunts, assaults on Marauders Chiefs and Storyline scripted events. In case of abuse, send a screenshot showing the violation to Support.
• Tolerance of multiboxing up to four accounts connected simultaneously in other cases: leveling, roleplay, etc.
2 - Medium and long term action: modification of the Ryzom gameplay
We're working on changing the gameplay little by little to limit the advantage of multi-alts over Bosses, Marauders Chiefs and Storyline scripted events.
This is the expected outcome of the two projects presented below, Bosses refactoring and Outposts refactoring, but also of the future scripted missions of the Storyline.

Q: When will the amended Code of Conduct be published (implemented)?
R :
During September and you will be notified before then.

4 - Bosses refactoring

Namcha (RT) – 20:37 UTC
The main objective of this project is to reduce the gameplay impact of Boss camping, including the one practiced via multi-alts.
Project description note : https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/sHtn43WJiwtxrBN
I need to clarify or underline some of the points made in this note:
• In a given region, only Bosses of one of the species already inhabiting the region will be able to spawn (the program controlling the pop of Kings will use a file listing the species inhabiting each region). As a consequence :
– if many new Bosses will pop, some of the current ones will not pop anymore, such as Madakoo (since no "common" madakam lives in the Prime Roots ecosystem)… but other versions of the madakam Boss will pop on the surface) ;
– contrary to what the note indicates, there will be no Raguketh 270 popping since no ragus inhabits the 250 region of the Desert ecosystem.
• Bosses logically non-existent by the above rule, whether they exist (such as Madakoo, for example) or not at present, will exist later on to "animate" OOC or scripted events (Storyline). Thus, Madakoo will not completely disappear…
• … Nor, for that matter, the materials collected from these lost Kings who today fill your Guild Hall.
• The refactoring responds to the objective stated above in that it will result in a significant increase in the number of possible popping spots of Bosses per region, thus making it difficult to predict which spot in a given region (now hosting, moreover, a greater diversity of Bosses than today) will see the next Boss of a given type pop.

Q : Will there be new Bosses?
R :
Yes, but they will be new variations of Kings by region rather. If a given species exists in a region, that region is likely to host a Boss specimen of that species.

Q : Will the list of Bosses in the wiki (https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Bosses_of_Atys) be updated?
R :
Yes, most likely, by the volunteer players who contribute to the wiki.

Q : What about Bosses currently popping on one one spot only, such as Bodokin, Cratchakin, etc.?
R :
The particular program that manages them today will not be changed: they will continue to appear, at the same location.

Q : Will there be a frippo Boss?
R :
Logically, a frippo King 120 should exist, yes.

Q : Will there be new Bosses on Silan?
R :
No, Yubokin will remain the only King of Silan.

Q : Can a Boss pop simultaneously in several regions and/or several ecosystems?
R :
There is little chance of this happening. Since a Boss is placed at the "bottom of the stack" when popping, it should not return anytime soon.

Q : Could two Bosses of the same name (i.e. of the same species and ecosystem) but of different levels – for example Izaketh 120 of Oflavak's Oasis and Izaketh 170 of the Dunes of Exile – pop simultaneously in their respective region of the Desert?
R :
Again, it is unlikely to happen: a Boss' placement at the bottom of the stack is independent of his level and host region.

Q : Will two Bosses of different ecosystems but of the same species and level (Raguketh 220 and Ragukin 220 for example) be able to pop simultaneously in their respective ecosystem?
R :
Yes, with good chances this time.

Q : What about rare kitins? Will Kidikoo disappear? Will Kizarakoo appear?
R :
If we let the system work, yes. But Kizarakoo, for example, is still under discussion within the team (shouldn't such a kitin be reserved for an event ?)

Q : If a Boss of a given level (e.g. Izaketh 170) pops (and gets killed) will the next King of the same name to pop be of another level (e.g. Izaketh 120) or not?
R :
Yes, the next tests should verify that the system will rotate the levels of the same King at its successive pops.

Q: What about Cratchakyo, which has been on hold for some time?
A:
This one was a scripted King, yes... It will stay on hold for some more time.

5 - Ouposts refactoring

Tamarea & Namcha (RT) – 21:26 UTC
The aim of this project is to revitalize outpost battles by restoring interest in all POs, by having them change owners regularly and by diversifying the types of combat. It will also reduce the gameplay advantage of multi-talts.
Project description note : https://cloud.ryzom.com/s/pCP3JJgBrrMCgip
Some points to emphasize here again:
• All outposts, regardless of their level (which will remain unchanged), will produce either Q150, Q200 or Q250 materials.
• No guild will no longer be allowed to keep an outpost for the sole purpose of enjoyment (if any) of its possession.
• To remember: outposts will change hands much more often and regularly than in the past!

Q : "Change owners regularly"... Does this mean that we will be forced to abandon our "home" even if those who covet it are defeated in each of their attacks? With no chance for us to defend it ?
R :
Yes this can happen; in this case the outpost will be taken by NPCs. But it will have begun to produce other materials anyway.

Q : In the case of GvG OP battles, is there anything scheduled to prevent the temporary recruitment in the conflicting guilds of members of their allied guilds?
R :
Two solutions to address this issue are currently being studied to evaluate their respective side effects:
1 • Authorize temporary recruitment by capping the number of combatants
2 • Make the right to fight subject to a minimum seniority in the guild.
In any case a GvG battle (an option which, incidentally, will not be available immediately) must not be identical to an FvF battle.


Q : How will the type of OP battle to be fought be decided?
R :
By clicking on the OP when launching the attack. But the number of GvG attacks per guild will be capped.

Q : Won't the new system only favor the big guilds by allowing them to attack in GvG the small ones that have become incapable of benefiting from the help of their allies?
R :
It is true that one of the objectives of the refactoring is to prevent single-member guilds from holding OPs. But, as far as small guilds are concerned, the extent of the damage will also depend on the capping of the number of GvG battles and they will still have the opportunity to conquer OPs through GvE, knowing that OPs thus conquered will not be able to change owner again during the following two weeks.

Q : "GvE: Guild vs NPCs to win the OPs taken by NPCs"… What kind of NPCs will these be?
R :
Homins for sure, but the possibility of also having kitins was evoked (and submitted to the developers for consideration).

Q : An OP may be held for its faction by a small guild that has received it as a reward for its help and then takes over the work of extracting and redistributing its materials. If the OP is taken through "easy" GvG by a large adverse guild, the faction will be the one that suffers. Shouldn't the faction, therefore, be allowed to help defend it?
R :
If solution 1 above is chosen, the faction will be able to help. If not, it may indeed be necessary to review the organization of the factions.

Q : As all OPs will produce materials from Q150 to Q250, an OP in Fount, for example, will be able to produce exactly the same materials as one in Flaming Forest?
R :
Each OP, regardless of its level, will indeed be able to produce materials of all three qualities, but the materials production rate of OP of a given level will be higher than that of OP of lower level.

Q : How will materials and owners rotations be done? At fixed or random intervals? All together or staggered over time?
R :
All together (server reboot), at an interval of two and a half to three months IRL, but the exact date will be random. Many mechanisms remain to be specified, however, regarding rotations: they will be detailed to you in a future meeting.

Meeting closed at 22:05 UTC

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#196 [en] 

Nilstilar
server reboot
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Kaetemi

#197 [en] 

Nilstilar
HD texture
Are these the original 2x scale textures from the PSD of Nevrax artists? Or did you really lose them, and doing an AI upscale?

EDIT: Seems like AI upscale. Looks nice.

Keep in mind, for the 128x128 and 256x256 ground textures, these are actually 127x127 and 254x254 textures. For the small textures, the outer edge is repeated. For the large textures, the middle and outer lines must be repeated. The landscape tiling mechanism expects this for seamless interpolation.

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Kaetemi

#198 [en] 

Kaetemi
Nilstilar
server reboot
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I presume that was to mean that each "alltogether rotation" will need a server reboot.

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#199 [en] 

Nilstilar
3 - Multiboxing
Tamarea (RT) – 20:25 UTC
Our goal is to limit the gameplay impact of the multi-alts gaming as much as possible.
To achieve this, we will act in two steps: an update of the Code of Conduct and a progressive chanhe in the gameplay.
1 - Short-term action: updating the Code of Conduct
• Limit multiboxing to two accounts connected simultaneously during outpost battles, Bosses hunts, assaults on Marauders Chiefs and Storyline scripted events. In case of abuse, send a screenshot showing the violation to Support.
• Tolerance of multiboxing up to four accounts connected simultaneously in other cases: leveling, roleplay, etc.
2 - Medium and long term action: modification of the Ryzom gameplay
We're working on changing the gameplay little by little to limit the advantage of multi-alts over Bosses, Marauders Chiefs and Storyline scripted events.
This is the expected outcome of the two projects presented below, Bosses refactoring and Outposts refactoring, but also of the future scripted missions of the Storyline.

Q: When will the amended Code of Conduct be published (implemented)?
R :
During September and you will be notified before then.

And is that by IP, or do you check that by PC? My spouse also plays, and for a short while everyone thought that Pixel was another one of my alts.

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#200 [fr] 

Would suggest that some OPs (one per perhaps ones near PR access points be reserved for Homin vs NPcs / Kitins under the "stewardship" of the Rangers.   Would be nice to see Rangers who, for the most part won't participate in Homin vs Homin activity,  be able to enjoy such activities too.  To keep the turnover aspect in play .... once the OP is lost, it would have to be retaken by another Guild.

Unless they getting a discounted subsciption price each month, should be a way for them to have comparable access to all content.

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#201 Multilingual 

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Ryzom Forge meeting ( October 12 th 2020)

Date: monday,october 12 th, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)

Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel RF
or
  • Ryzom Chat, channel #pub-forge-xx (exhttps://chat.ryzom.com/channel/pub-forge-en

Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.

Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
    1 - Op refactoring
    2 - Recruitment

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Ryzom Forge meeting (November 16th)

Date: monday, November 16th, 20:30 UTC (21:30 CET)
Meeting places:
  • Atys, on the public channel Forge (open the WebIG (Ctrl+W) and click on the “RF” button next to the language flags)
or

 

Duration: 1.5 hour
Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.
Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.
Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.
Agenda
CoC Update https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/31250/1
  • Russian version added
  • Multiboxing

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#203 [en] 

Minutes of the November 16 2020 Ryzom Forge Meeting

There was only one topic: The changes to the Code of Conduct regarding multiboxing.

Tykus announced the changes, gave links to some translations of the current code of conduct.

It was asked whether Supernode events should be included in the 2-multibox limit. There seemed to be some consensus.

Some players asked for a stricter ban - it seemed like botting was no longer the issue to them, but simply playing more than one character at a time.

Tamarea explained that the current 2-character limit for outpost wars/NPC hunts was a compromise between the players who wanted 4 and the players who wanted 1.

Some off-topic discussion was held about boss camping

There were no resolutions.




Magez has formatted and posted the full content of the meeting below

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#205 [en] 

Can you please split the report into English and French version? This is terrible to read.

Also, I am missing report form the previous meeting.

#206 [en] 

Moniq, there are many hundreds of lines. I already had to write a program to scrape this much from my chat logs. I'll see what i can do for tidying up that stuff, but i can't promise anything.
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