IDEAS FOR RYZOM

There is so much existing 'Lore' around Armor Color (and web pages devoted to listing the available colors for each material) that I don't want to break.

I would propose that the "Rules" for getting new armor color are:

• There must be no way to create a 'Dyed' Armor in the same color as existing Armor, this is done using the color properties of the materials. (So I can't make some green armor with 90% low Quality mats, dye it to look like it came from good mats and then sell it to other players)
• There is a way for a character who has to survive on some gifted armor (like me) that has one blue piece, one red piece, one white piece and some biege and green pieces to look less like a clown. (Maybe I could dye all of the items a new color (lets say) pale yellow so i have camoflage in the sand dunes)
• The icon for armor in bags, crafting preview windows and Vendors should indicate the actual color. 

I would (personally) like it if the method of 'Dyeing' Armor is tied into a crafting system as it could allow people to expand the crafting system. Maybe someone wants to add a new 'Dye' made of pure Silver which has a reflectivity of 100% or a PVP reward which is a light bending dye that provides partial invisibility?

(note to self - look into icons, reflectivity and transparent color numbers)



What are your thoughts on the "Rules".

@Remigra

And that's the interresting aspect of crafting. Once everyone could do any color easy, something important is gone.

btw: Red and white colors are easiest seems to me. Some combinations with black and blue are also not possible or not that good as red or white.

I agree.

So let us limit the 'Dying' mechanism to colors not available now like Hot Pink, Pastel blue, Dark Green, Dark Brown, checkered?, tie-die, fractals, emblems .....


I try hard to have my 'wish list' exceed my abilities as a programmer but making the first step is sometimes what needs to be done first.

Arceuid posted an article on that. TL/DR version; red is the easiest color, black is the hardest. White is technically the second hardest, but is still fairly common simply because there are a lot of folks who craft with mostly/only PR mats.

I will try to rebuild my dev environment and see if I can get this working:


SPropVisualA 
struct SPropSubData // 64 bits used
 {
  uint64 Sex   : 1;  // max: 2  current: 2
  uint64 JacketModel  : 9;  // max: 512  current: 93
  uint64 JacketColor  : 5;  // max: 32  current: 16
  uint64 TrouserModel  : 9;  // max: 512  current: 104
  uint64 TrouserColor  : 5;  // max: 32  current: 16
  uint64 WeaponRightHand : 12; // max: 2048  current: 457
  uint64 WeaponLeftHand : 8;  // max: 256  current: 63
  uint64 HatModel  : 10;  // max: 1024  current: 192
  uint64 HatColor  : 5;  // max: 32  current: 16
 };
SPropVisualB
 struct SPropSubData // 64 bits used
 {
  uint64 Name    : 16;
  uint64 HandsModel   : 9; // max: 512  current: 90
  uint64 HandsColor   : 5; // max: 32  current: 16
  uint64 FeetModel   : 9; // max: 512  current: 94
  uint64 FeetColor   : 5; // max: 32  current: 16
  uint64 RTrail    : 4;
  uint64 LTrail    : 3;
  uint64 ArmModel   : 9;  // max: 512  current: 94
  uint64 SwimwearModel   : 4;  // max: 16  current: 8 (2 per race)
 };SPropVisualC
{
 struct SPropSubData // 64 bits used
 {
  uint64 MorphTarget1  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget2  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget3  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget4  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget5  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget6  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget7  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 MorphTarget8  : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 EyesColor   : 3; // max: 8  current: 8
  uint64 Tattoo    : 7; // max: 128  current: 64
  uint64 CharacterHeight  : 4; // max: 16  current: 16
  uint64 TorsoWidth   : 4; // max: 16  current: 16
  uint64 ArmsWidth   : 4; // max: 16  current: 16
  uint64 LegsWidth   : 4; // max: 16  current: 16
  uint64 BreastSize   : 4; // max: 16  current: 16
  uint64 ArmColor   : 5;  // max: 32  current: 16
  uint64 SwimwearColor   : 5;  // max: 32  current: 16 };

@Remigra

Yes, that is more interresting if there will be any real conditions.

I am a "traditionalist", so concerning the additional colors thing...

>>twitch<< >>twitch<< >>SHUDDER<< >>>SCREAM!!!!<<<

Agreed. Considering how many trades I've been denied simply because I am in a guild that is aligned with the "wrong" faction or because some nationalists won't deal with those who must resort to Google Translate, I think that any further impediments to trade would be a bad idea. It's hard enough to find people willing to trade in the first place, why make it worse for arbitrary reasons?

I think we have one rule:

Recoloured "Low Durability" armor can not be resold.

Recoloured "High Durability" armor can be resold.

Question:

Would it be appropriate for guilds to hire a vendor that recolors armor in a color/stitching that is unique to that guild?

Subscribed accounts might get access to a vendor that recolors in only 8 colours?

Free to play might get access to a vendor that recolors in only 4 colours?

By "Low Durability" I meant  "Items made with more than 2 low quality materials".


In terms of Lore:
Low quality materials are damaged when high quality dyes are applied to them.
Items made using more than 2 low quality materials will suffer damage of 26% during the dyeing process. 

So

1/ existing Blue Armor made from 100% blue mats may be recoloured to (say) Red and retain 100% of their durability.

2/ existing Green Armor made from 50% blue mats and 50% green mats may be recoloured to (say) Red but will retain only 74% of their durability after recolouring.

This stops people dying green Armor red and selling it.