Discussion around the Scenographic Editor and the Scenario Editor - DISCUSSIONS AROUND ONGOING PROJECTS

#32 Added by Ulukyn 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

Yubina

As I understand, the Scenario Editor is the advanced (future) state of the Scenographic Editor.
It contains ai, "intelligent" mobs, possibility to create missions and whatever I overlooked. ^^

That's right ! Scenographic Editor is only a little part (static stuff) of Scenario Editor

Yubina

Will it get the name Pocket Worlds back? PoWo sounded so much better than SE (to be confused with special edition).

With SE you create PoWos, so yep, you can use the name to say : Hey guys, come try my Powo :p

Yubina

A way to rename scenes would be really usefull, the "Magical Forest Scene" (image used by Tamarea) is just named "woods" at the moment, it's supposed be one of my first shared scenes. (Flickr Album)

Ok ! :)

#33 Added by Ulukyn 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Dukenono

J'ai testé rapidement pour voir si je pouvais entrer dans la scène d'un autre joueur. J'ai pu voir celle de Yubina par exemple, mais pour quelques autres c'est un crash immédiat...

Quel O.S.? Quel version? J'ai pu tester plusieures scenes sans soucis, mais il est possible qu'il y est un cas qui fasse planter

#34 Added by Dukenono 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Ulukyn

Dukenono
J'ai testé rapidement pour voir si je pouvais entrer dans la scène d'un autre joueur. J'ai pu voir celle de Yubina par exemple, mais pour quelques autres c'est un crash immédiat...

Quel O.S.? Quel version? J'ai pu tester plusieures scenes sans soucis, mais il est possible qu'il y est un cas qui fasse planter

Ubuntu 16.04.

J'ai aussi une scène sur un compte free (Grobilo) qui est publique et que je n'arrive pas à repasser en privée (c'est une scène vide).

Edit : j'ai retesté, en fait je peux entrer dans une scène et en ressortir, mais si je veux en tester une autre dans la foulée ça crash après l'écran de chargement...

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#35 Added by Yubina 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Tested on kubuntu 16.10, crashes on try to enter a second shared scene (after exit a first scene).
On MacOS 10.9.5, crashes when exit the second scene.

I noticed before, that scenes are not "properly" closed on exit, not sure if it is related, but should be fixed anyway.

#36 Added by Ulukyn 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Yubina

Tested on kubuntu 16.10, crashes on try to enter a second shared scene (after exit a first scene).
On MacOS 10.9.5, crashes when exit the second scene.

I noticed before, that scenes are not "properly" closed on exit, not sure if it is related, but should be fixed anyway.

This issue is fixed with last patch, can you say me what is your ryzom client version?

#37 Added by Yubina 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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/version says:
ubuntu: FV 3.1.0.8737 (2017-02-25...)
macos: FV 3.1.0.8737 (2017-01-12...)

#38 Added by Yubina 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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On Windows 10 (installed Ryzom yesterday, started it for the first time today and patched)
/version: 3.1.0.8737 (2017-02-25...)
Windows client also crashes random on enter or exit a second scene

Btw. got rid of black/white textures, with switching to Direct3D, now the trees are flying and dancing XD *sneaks back to Linux*

#39 Added by Dukenono 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Yubina

/version says:
ubuntu: FV 3.1.0.8737 (2017-02-25...)
macos: FV 3.1.0.8737 (2017-01-12...)

Même version sur Ubuntu 16.04 et même problème, je ne peux pas entrer dans une seconde scène.

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Noble Matis, artisan de la maison noble La Firme
Gardien du Royaume et Béni de Jena

#40 Added by Ulukyn 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Yubina

On Windows 10 (installed Ryzom yesterday, started it for the first time today and patched)
/version: 3.1.0.8737 (2017-02-25...)
Windows client also crashes random on enter or exit a second scene

Btw. got rid of black/white textures, with switching to Direct3D, now the trees are flying and dancing XD *sneaks back to Linux*

Ok my fault, my fix are not in the latest patch. So i have do another patch today (3.1.0.8747) with only the fix for Scenograpĥic Editor alias SE alias SEd alias PowoSE alias PowoSEd (choose the good one :p)

#41 Added by Dukenono 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Ulukyn

Yubina
On Windows 10 (installed Ryzom yesterday, started it for the first time today and patched)
/version: 3.1.0.8737 (2017-02-25...)
Windows client also crashes random on enter or exit a second scene

Btw. got rid of black/white textures, with switching to Direct3D, now the trees are flying and dancing XD *sneaks back to Linux*

Ok my fault, my fix are not in the latest patch. So i have do another patch today (3.1.0.8747) with only the fix for Scenograpĥic Editor alias SE alias SEd alias PowoSE alias PowoSEd (choose the good one :p)

Je préfère SEd, c'est plus classe :p

Bon sinon le problème persiste pour moi après le patch...

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Noble Matis, artisan de la maison noble La Firme
Gardien du Royaume et Béni de Jena

#42 Added by Ulukyn 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Issue fixed (not by patch but by app). But take care, the fix only works when using Exit link from SEd app.

Exiting with a teleport will make the client crash next time he enters on a scene.

This fix is temporary until i found why patch don't have fixed it yet

#43 Added by Dukenono 8 years ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Ça fonctionne bien mieux maintenant, et le fait de pouvoir être à plusieurs dans une scène ouvre déjà des possibilités... Il faudrait juste un droit d'accès légèrement plus élaboré, par exemple : scène privée/publique + invitations.

A part ça, est-ce qu'il serait possible de pouvoir jouer sur les niveaux de hauteur du personnage pour monter une marche ou un plan incliné ?

Et éventuellement, un rectangle de collision de taille variable, pour faire un mur invisible ou n'importe quoi d'autre, comme empêcher le personnage de sortir d'une zone...

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Noble Matis, artisan de la maison noble La Firme
Gardien du Royaume et Béni de Jena

#44 Added by Yubina 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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I can only have one public scene per account at a time? Seriously?
(So I need to take off woods for the new scene...)

And I was not able to figure out how scene renaming works.
Further, the exit button does not exactly meet my expectations (with visible collisions before use).

And btw, wonder what happened to X & Y & Z resize, disable collisions and the ring maps?

Everything else looks good, the sorting feels better now and it runs pretty stable, thank you. :)

#45 Added by Moniq 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Yubina

I can only have one public scene per account at a time? Seriously?
(So I need to take off woods for the new scene...)

For now, but you can share unpublished scenes to friends in specific list, no matter if it's public.

Yubina

And I was not able to figure out how scene renaming works.
Further, the exit button does not exactly meet my expectations (with visible collisions before use).

There are some minor issues, but the basic works. Renaming and removing groups is not finished, IMHO.

Yubina

And btw, wonder what happened to X & Y & Z resize, disable collisions and the ring maps?

Collisions are bit buggy, that is true, but I hope Ulukyn will fix it in next editor update. Collisions resize works to me in X/Y, Z confuses me. Rotation seems buggy.

Yubina

Everything else looks good, the sorting feels better now and it runs pretty stable, thank you. :)

IMHO, it needs some minor fixes and some bit more advanced functions.

Which functions do you miss?

#46 Added by Yubina 8 years ago Report | Quote [en]

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Moniq

Yubina
I can only have one public scene per account at a time? Seriously?
(So I need to take off woods for the new scene...)
For now, but you can share unpublished scenes to friends in specific list, no matter if it's public.

I didn’t test the share to a single person functionality yet. I have 2 nice scenes for the world to see now ^^
For the public scene I replaced woods with waterworld for now, bit of a show off whats currently possible with the SEd.
(If I start another public scene, I will use another account.)

Moniq

Yubina
And I was not able to figure out how scene renaming works.
Further, the exit button does not exactly meet my expectations (with visible collisions before use).
There are some minor issues, but the basic works. Renaming and removing groups is not finished, IMHO.

Did you try to rename a scene, does it work for you? Removing groups and scenes works well for me now.
And the exit button (works well in general), but still the same bug with the red collisions you can’t disable and make you eventually crash (if you forgot to disable collisions before exit).

Moniq

Yubina
And btw, wonder what happened to X & Y & Z resize, disable collisions and the ring maps?
Collisions are bit buggy, that is true, but I hope Ulukyn will fix it in next editor update. Collisions resize works to me in X/Y, Z confuses me. Rotation seems buggy.

I actually mostly toss the collisions from the cliff of the bark (literally, collision - move X & Y), instead of taking the time to edit them. A lot of them are way too large for their shapes.
The Z axis is special in Ryzom, it’s kind of 2.5D, not the 3D it looks like. Where the ground is not even enough or collisions overlap it’s possible to walk below a collision. You can’t move a collision on Z because it always tries to snap to the ground. You can’t walk on top of a collisions, there is no top ;) (unfortunately). Changes on rotation Z of the collision seem to be reset on save (bug).

Moniq

Yubina
Everything else looks good, the sorting feels better now and it runs pretty stable, thank you. :)
IMHO, it needs some minor fixes and some bit more advanced functions.

Which functions do you miss?

These are features announced by Ulukyn or Tamarea before:
X & Y & Z resize (shape), disable collisions and the Ring maps

Further, most important to me:
1. ai, mobs, npc, interactions, missions
2. ability to set season, time of day and weather (like it was in the Ring)
3. copy transformed shapes OR copy the transformation values from one shape to another

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