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#21 Multilingual 

Kyriann
Reprends moi si je me trompe.
Tu ne veux pas d'un titre qui refléterait toutes les actions que tu as pu faire ou ce que tu as pu accomplir, tu veux juste un titre pour refléter le fait que tu sois ... vieux !?
Si c'est ça, je ne vois que le titre de Mathusalem :-)
Et je propose qu'on te le réserve à vie

Et oui je suis tout à fait d'accord pour qu'on donne des titres particuliers aux "vieux" joueurs qui en feraient la demande.

Euh... Mais c'est quoi le problème avec tous ces post négatifs/contre le fait d'accorder un titre en fonction de l'âge du perso ? Ça existe depuis des années dans d'autres mmorpg et je ne vois aucun mal dans le fait d'avoir un titre changeant en fonction du nombre d'années.

En dehors d'avoir participé à la beta -pour laquelle il n'y avait plus assez de clés disponibles, d'où mon impossibilité de m'y joindre- ils font fait quoi au final les Elder of Atys ? 6 mois de plus, et découvert en avant-première le monde/jeu et rapporté des bugs.

Sérieusement, je ne comprends pas toutes ces moqueries et cette animosité. Il est vraiment triste de constater ce qu'est devenue cette communauté.
Bitttymacod
The actual old players have a title: Elder of Atys.
There are also titles like Wayfarer for those who had to switch to a different server.
Anyone else (like me - Nov. 2007 to present) is a newcomer.

Wrong : Elder of Atys is a beta participant title (Awarded to accounts which have been active since beta) see by yourself : http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Titles

Edit : somebody said to me in game, that after merge they gave this title to pre-merge players, so idk which is now true. =) for my part i don't have any "special" titles like wayfarer or elder.

As for me, i activated first time 12/2004.
Kovabon
Moica:

No, I am somewhat brain-damaged due to a stroke in 2011. So, no, I just post what I think.

ok

Last edited by Mojca (8 years ago) | Reason: info update

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#22 [fr] 

Je ne crois pas que les posts précédents soient si négatifs que tu a l'air de dire. Je ne suis pas ici depuis longtemps mais les gens ici aiment bien se taquiner. Si les personnes te répondent d'une façon si goguenarde, c'est peut être qu'il y a des choses plus importantes à faire en regardant vers l'avant que plutôt vers le passé, comme par exemple pour un joueur lambda d'essayer de faire vivre le roleplay, indispensable si on ne veut pas s'ennuyer sur l'écorce.
Rassure toi je n'ai aucune animosité contre toi. Si tu aimes Atys, tu sauras la faire vivre, et regarde vers l'avant.

A bientôt sur l'écorce.

#23 Multilingual 

Eolinius
Je ne crois pas que les posts précédents soient si négatifs que tu a l'air de dire. Je ne suis pas ici depuis longtemps mais les gens ici aiment bien se taquiner. Si les personnes te répondent d'une façon si goguenarde, c'est peut être qu'il y a des choses plus importantes à faire en regardant vers l'avant que plutôt vers le passé, comme par exemple pour un joueur lambda d'essayer de faire vivre le roleplay, indispensable si on ne veut pas s'ennuyer sur l'écorce.
Rassure toi je n'ai aucune animosité contre toi. Si tu aimes Atys, tu sauras la faire vivre, et regarde vers l'avant.

A bientôt sur l'écorce.

Eolinius, même si je peux conçevoir ce que tu cherches à exprimer, tu es soit naïf soit de mauvaise foi (désolé je ne t'attaques pas, c'est juste de la logique) car l'afflux de remarques négatives n'a plus rien à voir avec de la taquinerie, c'est de de la méchanceté gratuite doublée d'un désir de "flame" à l'encontre de quiconque chercherait à apporter du changement sur Atys.

J'en ai longuement discuté au sein de ma guilde comme avec mes amis hier soir, et nombreux sont ceux qui m'ont dit ne plus poster depuis longtemps pour ces mêmes raisons. Je ne suis donc loin d'être le seul à avoir constaté cet état de fait et ne suis donc certainement pas un cas isolé. Il y a l'art et la manière lorsqu'on s'adresse aux gens, et goguenard ou non, je ne vois pas la nécessité de crusher à plusieurs un post sous prétexte qu'on est pas d'accord, c'est pathétique.

Vous n'en voulez pas de ce titre, très bien votez contre, mais de grâce épargnez nous vos commentaires oiseux, moqueurs, et insinuations diverses... Combien de fois me faudra-t-il encore entendre des explications sur Ryzom comme si j'étais un noob fraichement débarqué ici ? Sérieusement ça devient lassant cette volonté de faire taire et de passer la plupart des suggestions aux oubliettes. En quoi cette histoire de titre vous dérange-t-elle tellement ? Du fait que vous ne puissez l'obtenir faute d'ancienneté du compte ? C'est l'impression qui se dégage de cette série de posts en tous cas. L'obtention d'un titre de ce type n'a rien de marginal et même si son utilité est discutable -j'en conviens- cela n'en reste pas moins parfaitement légitime, sachant que cela existe dans d'autres univers, comme par exemple "elder" ou "venerable elder" pour les comptes de plus de 4/8 ans dans Dark Age of Camelot. C'est une façon de remercier les joueurs mais aussi d'aider le RP dont tu parles dans ton post, puisque le fait de porter un tel titre implique pour certains les connaissances allant de pair, ou encore le jeu de rôle conséquent au "grand âge" du personnage (c'est le cas chez moi puisque j'aime faire de l'auto-dérision lorsque je suis dans le jeu, insistant sur mes pertes de mémoire ou mon manque d'endurance -fictif- etc).

Maintenant, l'ordre défini des choses "plus importantes" à faire est une excuse qui ne tient pas la route, car cela ne repose que sur tes dires et il ne t'appartient pas d'en juger, mais au staff. C'est à cela que sert cette rubrique pour autant que je sache. C'est d'ailleurs assez amusant cette remarque, car dans la même phrase tu arrives à me dire qu'il faut se concentrer sur des choses plus importantes en regardant vers l'avant et blablub, et en même temps tu me parles de RP, que je ne dénigre pas, mais dont l'importance est toute aussi subjective. Pour ma part, il m'arrive dans faire, mais je ne vois vraiment pas le rapport avec le sujet.

Enfin bon, peu importe, tu as voulu donné ton avis, tu l'as fais.

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#24 [fr] 

Mojica, please be more kind to other players. Maybe the translation does not come through right, if not, forgive me, but it sounds like you are mad others are saying negative things about your post. I think they are finding humor as well as apathy from them in it because it isn't a really big deal to get a new title, but also, some think it would be a nice thing if you wish to have it, (as well as me).

But please remember, the staff or developers do not really decide if something is added or not to the game at the expense of the players desires. First, they look at the suggestions in this forum and read the response from the other players and if they want it implemented. If it is a great suggestion and everyone gets behind it and supports it, then they seriously study putting it in the game. If it is possible, they add it! But only after positive response from everyone.

So i ask, "Do you want to have it only your way and not care about other players thoughts?" I did not hear negative response from them, perhaps some humor. So lighten up please. I think they support it.

If there is a lot of negative responses on a suggestion, they will not consider it. Sometimes they let the ideas develop and change in this forum until they add it. It might not be the original thought or Idea, but something will happen. So, i like the idea, others have said they like it because it harms nothing, so lets see where it goes.
All we ask now is that others offer suggestions of support :D

#25 [en] 

Mojca --
Bitttymacod

The actual old players have a title: Elder of Atys.
There are also titles like Wayfarer for those who had to switch to a different server.
Anyone else (like me - Nov. 2007 to present) is a newcomer.
Mojca
Wrong : Elder of Atys is a beta participant title (Awarded to accounts which have been active since beta) see by yourself : http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Titles

I am perfectly aware of that. That was my way of saying that as far as I am concerned the only actual "old players" in Ryzom are the ones who were beta-testers. That's my opinion. Your opinion may vary (and clearly does).

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#26 [fr] 

I think it''s a good idea to give a title to the older players. It's something that's been successful on other mmos.

They could also send out a mailing to email address and say anyone who has logged on by such and such a time that played during this time period will automatically receive this title. With a cutoff point of either a version of the game or amount of years played. Something along those lines.

A one time mailing. That would encourage returning players and be a thank you to the players who played after the beta stage but were still part of the charter members of the game.

#27 Multilingual 

After further thinking, there is no need anymore for me to continue the debate, so i decided to edit this last post, and if somebody felt pissed off by my words, sorry for that. I proposed an idea, nobody want it, that's fine, no problem. After all, it was just an idea not my deepest wish lol. Have fun and stay safe. /wave

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Mojca (8 years ago)

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#28 [fr] 

Mojca
Wrong : Elder of Atys is a beta participant title (Awarded to accounts which have been active since beta) see by yourself : http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Titles

Actually the Wiki is technically wrong, Elder of Atys was given to Focus Beta Testers, not everyone that beta tested; which is why the break dance is triggered by /fbt. Whether that's been changed since is another matter.
Mojca
Edit : somebody said to me in game, that after merge they gave this title to pre-merge players, so idk which is now true.

I wouldn't be happy about that...

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Elder Of Atys

Chasing the DING!
katriell
You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#29 [fr] 

I seem to notice a pattern here. Grave of the Fireflies always seem to attack any ideas in force that aren't kami or from their guild.

Personally I don't see why having every member of one guild giving their opinion ought to sway everyone's opinion about what new idea should be implemented.

I really find this Elder of Atys attitude a little distasteful. Why should everyone in the game have to bow down to some focus beta tester's opinion twelve years after the fact?

Last edited by Winnow (8 years ago)

#30 [fr] 

Winnow
I seem to notice a pattern here. Grave of the Fireflies always seem to attack any ideas in force that aren't kami or from their guild.

Thats a silly statement. If you read up you can see that I liked the Idea. And what guild am I from?

#31 [en] 

Winnow
I seem to notice a pattern here. Grave of the Fireflies always seem to attack any ideas in force that aren't kami or from their guild.

I seem to remember I agreed with Mojca's idea. Sadly, most people that are NOT Mojca seemed to disagree with it, regardless of guild.

But hey, feel free to drum up a pattern if you really need it..

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#32 [en] 

Winnow
I seem to notice a pattern here. Grave of the Fireflies always seem to attack any ideas in force that aren't kami or from their guild.
Neela
I wouldn't have a problem with titles based on length of time played; wouldn't have thought it was too difficult to implement either.

What sort of titles were you thinking of?

So exactly where did I disagree with Mojca?
Naema
+1 I like this Idea.
Mjollren
Personally I would think of something that depends on actual played time, but even that would reward people sitting at stables for hours..

.. in any case, giving people a title hurts no one and it makes them smile, so :)

Or any of the other Fireflies for that matter?

Also I'm not Kami, I'm neutral and would never foster any kind of Kami agenda.

Only pattern seems to be that you don't read posts before trying to further whatever agenda/issue you seem to have with GoF.

Everyone has their right to an opinion; I'd place more weight on yours if you'd posted more than you have. Are you sure you're happy for your very first post on these forums to be an unfounded attack?

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Elder Of Atys

Chasing the DING!
katriell
You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#33 [en] 

Please discuss the topic in question and refrain from off topic accusations. Also see the Forum Rules on how to behave with courtesy at all times.

Last edited by Tiximei (8 years ago)

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Tiximei
Senior Game Master
Ryzom Support Team

#34 Multilingual 

I think an appropriate title would be a nice acknowledgement to those who have supported Ryzom over the years.
Even a few titles to reflect different major events could be considered. Doesnt require a lot of extra code, and would be a 'payback' to the dedicated players.

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#35 [en] 

Mahz
I think an appropriate title would be a nice acknowledgement to those who have supported Ryzom over the years.
Even a few titles to reflect different major events could be considered. Doesnt require a lot of extra code, and would be a 'payback' to the dedicated players.

Thank you, Mahz. Sadly, it is not the will of the staff to provide us with such a title and no titles are provided except for beta + cho/windermeer people, dixit Tiximei.

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