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I'm not attacking you for being unintelligent; intelligent people are not immune to behaving badly. I welcome counter point to the points put forth. But rather than address any of those points, you respond only with personal attacks .... just as you do in various channels in game.... though there it tends to be a bit more "colorful"

When the game provides rewards for one group, that are not available to others, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that people will look for ways around it. If ya don't want people farming PvP points, the most logical alternative is to provide mechanism to get similar, not same, rewards with equal effort.

One pays a subscription fee each month to get access to certain rewards. Once one starts paying, one gets double XP, get packers, gets an apartment. Are PvEers paying a lower subscription rate rate then those who PvP ? If not, then all players should have an equal opportunity to get similar, not same, rewards with comparable effort.

I agree, that there is no way to stop farmers but wouldn't agree that it would be obvious, or at least provable. I have never observed it.

"Ranger Only 2 x 2 PvP tournament Matis Arena 2 pm UST"

Can we please let this thread die (in peace)? Its just PvP'ers saying things that other Pvp'ers already know, people that don't know anything about PvP injecting their own two cents about something that would never affect them, random non-constructive complaints, and tit-for-tat bickering.............

In other words ... the points being made do not reflect my views so I want them silenced.

Everything that could possibly be brought up about Pvp already has, people have expressed their agreement with and disagreement, so now we can move on, unless someone thinks of a new topic that was not covered yet.

Personally I have already resigned myself to the fact that:

a) due to the way combat gameplay and OP war mechanics work,
b) coupled with the really low population of active PVP players on the game,

the only modality of enjoyable and competitive PVP for me in the game is 2x2 (save some rare exceptions now and then).

Still loving the official events and RP though =P

(btw BIG thanks to all maras, kamis and karas who came to the Fakuang pvp event yesterday btw, it was great fun! ^^)

In other words, someone injecting his points in the thread where they don't belong, derailing discussion and spoiling it with off-topic nonsense. If you want discuss things that concern you, go create your own thread. There you can rant forever about non-PvP means of obtaining goodies and how super-awesome this game was twelve years ago, when no pesky PvPers polluted it.