IDEAS FOR RYZOM

While the marauders are still complaining what is all missing for them, and the rangers are looking forward hopefully that their faction will hopefully be completed eventually this year (or the next one) if no malicious matis, zorai, and possibly their ET cronies interfere once more, the trytonists still remain in a limbo.

Their return and eventual establishment has been announced already during and short after the second great swarming. Trytonist NPC appeared during assemblies for some time, then everything subsided. Granted, trytonist pursuit and pogroms like in the old times, especially in the kingdom and the jungle, have not been renewed, trytonist thought may be expressed more openly, nowadays. Not much less than what can be desired as a minimum, taking in account that Elias and Elyssa were helping a lot in saving hominity during the second great swarming.

Yet the formation of a trytonist faction, as promised since long time , still remains foggy and dubious. Will there be anybody in the event team (yes I am aware of their workload, but anyway) to pick up the job to secure the development of trytonists? I want to stress that the formation of a trytonist faction will not abduct any player from their recent activity (other than marauder players who are lost to not only cults, but also nations), there is no damage to fear from, no big installation to do for, except teleporters in 250 regions and PR. Experienced homins may assist in planning (I and Diwu would volunteer, though we are not and will not be Trytonists).

So I think we should boldly go on with the creation of the trytonist faction. It will enrich the game with no danger of damage.

What will be the cost of a trytonist faction? They will have negative (-50 or so) cult allegiance denying them K/K teleporters. They should have a capital teleporter outside the city as well as in every other region, in fact, there must be a rainbow gate in all regions. This has to be planned, as the rainbow gate, like every tp, will be a secure zone (other than ranger pathways). Littering the regions with secure spots is an issue and has to be devised carefully. Ok, the devs and csr had less that 3 yrs to do so, but we should act wisely and with much consideration, now.

Otherwise, I fail to see any obstacle to create the trytonist faction immediately. They are bound to be pro nation but not citizens of a single nation, and anti cult. There is nothing, besides teleports and their own lore which is missing to create them soon.

[OOC]The cost will be further weakening of the existing fractions. It will most likels suck people from the religion-bound nations as well as probably splitting the Marauders. It will cost the neutrals or rangers far less, of course, as the Trytonists do have the potential and will to fight other Homins. The question is: can the Zorai and Matis and Marauders afford the blood-letting? Creating more and more fractions also makes the whole original concept of Ryzom obsolete, which had the Kami and Karavan as powers the Homins are bound and devoted to - but instead by now they are shrinked in the attention of players to funny figures standing around in various places like liftboys dressed up in Halloween costumes, whlie everybody becomes more and more secular, turning from the religious to the cultish, to the cult of Tryton or the somewhat Freemasonic rangers. I honestly see no gain in that.[/OOC]

Topic moved.

While I think that the Trytonist "faction" is a very interesting Lore concept and in many ways much more fundamental to the core Ryzom history than marauders and rangers (the whole basic plot of Ryzom revolves around Jena, Ma-Duk and Elias Tryton), I also do not think that any time and development should be spent on this faction at this point.

As Salazar pointed out, it'll just split the player base even more. The rainbow portal teleport system would need to be coded like the mara teleport system was and that'd probably be a huge undertaking for the dev side. I believe it's much better to finish current projects like ironing out the mara faction and completing the ranger faction (plus kitin lair, occupations, NPC bosses, and stuff that can be enjoyed by the entire player base) than to add yet another faction to the game. At least at this point. Maybe in the future.

Plus, in terms of PVP, to be entirely honest nowadays it doesn't even seem to make much of a difference which faction you belong to. There's the guilds that don't PVP at all, then there's the kami faction, and on the other side all other factions grouped together against kami. So I doubt a trytonist faction would really make much of a difference in terms of PVP dynamics, balance, etc.

Excusez moi.. j'ai un trou de mémoire.. les trytonnistes, ce sont bien les gens qui se cachent pour ne pas être persécutés? une sorte d'ordre qui navigue dans l'ombre et le secret? Influençant secrêtement le pouvoir des factions K/K pour les garder en équilibre ?
C'est pas un peu contradictoire de les mettre en pleine lumière dans ce cas là?