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#76 Multilingual 

What we are really talking about is one (or two) players whose behaviour has tarnished the reputation of an entire guild. One of them is such an egregious 'camper' that one wonders if camping is as bad as many of us seem to think it is, or is it just because of his/her behaviour over the last few months that we now see any inactive toon in vacinity of a boss spawn as a camper. As we are told by CSRs, time and time again, what these players are doing is NOT against the CoC, as camping is not prohibited. However, I would suggest that they are intentionally trying to harrass and upset players and that this IS against the CoC. If this is not intentional harrassment, then, their behaviour is so selfish that it goes well beyond any desire for mats. One only has to look at the tone of this thread, and others like it, to see what the effect that one individual is having on the community. In either case, this behaviour ammouts to harrassment and if the CSRs wished they could use this to put a stop to it.

Edited 3 times | Last edited by Lacuna (10 years ago)

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#77 [fr] 

I could care less about campers. You can leave your computer on all the time, but you cannot be watching the computer 24/7. You have to sleep sometime and that is when i will get the boss :D.
~Just my opinion

#78 [en] 

Somehow this reminds me of when I was a kid and played Tekken with my friend. I had no experience whatsoever but I could win every time by pressing all the buttons randomly. Man he got angry and told me to stop doing it. I think you should blame the game not the player. If it's too easy to camp bosses then maybe we should make the bosses spawn in random locations.

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#79 Multilingual 

How about tweak the current targeting mechanism:
All Boss/King can be targeted within 50m.
Anyway the maximum distance for nuking is 50m and I doubt you will use launchers to kill a Boss/King.

This will eradicate suspected campers camping from 100m away from the re-spawn spot since mostly if not all safe spot is a 100m away from the re-spawn spot.

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#80 [en] 

"tweaking" the targetting mechanism may not be as easy as it sounds. I doubt that it is controllable by ARK.

At any rate, I wonder if it is just the time zone that I play in, but I have not seen any evidence that camping is at all *effective*. In the past year I have been on dozens of pick-up boss hunts, killing and looting many bosses, sometimes 5 or 6 in an evening. In that same year, I think that I have noticed another team in the vicinity of the boss three times.

Three. One of them stole the boss from us and two watched while we killed the boss.

These were not cases where we were traveling and found the Boss suddenly and therefore pulled a fast one. Since I am neutral it generally takes me between 5 and 10 minutes to get to boss locations when I am called away from digging. These were cases where Ulsort or Bones were doing boss location runs and then calling for teams. (Uls and Bones are the usual ones, but sometimes it's other people.)

As I said, this may be an artifact of playing in the time period that pretty much corresponds to 04:00 to 10:00 CET, but if it is not, then I really do not doubt the existence of campers, but I doubt their efficacy.


P.S. As has been pointed out, camping is not against the rules. If, as I think, it is not a particularly effective tactic, that should be enough to ignore it.

Last edited by Bitttymacod (10 years ago)

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