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#27 Added by Nerwane 10 years ago [fr]

Je suis contre des patrouilles + énervées au départ.

Comme je vois les choses:
1) ça n'empêchera pas les habitués d'y aller
2) ça risque juste d'augmenter les chances qu'ils meurent avec leur pioche non finalisée

Résultat: toujours pas de trucs intéressants pour les autres.. à part l'autosatisfaction de savoir que ceux qui y sont allés n'ont pas pu en récupérer ou moins que d'habitude... en gros mettre des spots de suprême à 30 mats max sans changer l'état des patrouilles, reviendrait au même.

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#28 Added by Nerwane 10 years ago [fr]

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quant au repop des patrouilles, il faut les tuer avant.. ceux qui vont chercher le suprême au repop, sont rarement en team pour pouvoir les tuer.. je ne comprends pas trop le rapport donc..

#29 Added by Virg 10 years ago [en]

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I would only changed the spawn to 1-2 minutes, you want a slight respite but any longer and you lose the joy of the threat of the KP.

That is why I asked for more KPs as well :D

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#30 Added by Mjollren 10 years ago [en]

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Y'all fail to consider PR grinding. I suppose it's an honest mistake to make, if you're master already ;)

Before KPs, I saw guildies and generally players picking up PR digging somewhat seldom. Nowadays, with KPs, almost no one is picking up PR. I can't name 5 new PR masters that got their title in the past 6 months.

As it stands, you must grind either in a PvP region or in a KP region. I have heard several people being put off by the prospect of digging in a pvp region. So, one could grind in pve regions... except you'll end up dying several times to regular aggro; should you find a safe spot, you'll most likely die to KP. There are only a few mat spots close to vortexes where you can dig almost safely, such as south US. If they weather, you're screwed.

Overall, I stand by Minou's assessment: the effort-to-reward ratio is incredibly unattractive to everyone short of a few self-serving individuals who both a) have lots of time, and b) are already masters. The vast majority of the playerbase does not fit in one of those two categories. So, uh, congrats on making several regions of the game world completely useless to them. Very win. Much sense.

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#31 Added by Lacuna 10 years ago [en]

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*Hands MJ his rattle back*

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#32 Added by Virg 10 years ago [en]

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People need a challange in this game. PR isn't meant to be easy. There are still spots to dig at like south US spawn etc.

This game needs harder things for the experienced playerbase. People who are getting to grips with game mechanics can do so in other areas.

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#33 Added by Marichia 10 years ago [en]

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Mjollren (atys)

Y'all fail to consider PR grinding. I suppose it's an honest mistake to make, if you're master already ;)

Before KPs, I saw guildies and generally players picking up PR digging somewhat seldom. Nowadays, with KPs, almost no one is picking up PR. I can't name 5 new PR masters that got their title in the past 6 months.

*Raises hand* Mastered PR dig last September. I died quite a lot doing so, but also learnt a lot from the experience and gathered enough knowledge that I DO manage to gather some mats as well as dp :)

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#34 Added by Pryvid 10 years ago [en]

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I re-mastered PR in December...

Yes, I died quite a lot. And it took me ages to get to 250, but mostly because I was lazy. If it had been easy it would have been quite disappointing.

Having mastered so recently, I can tell you there are quite a few safe spots one can dig at
LoC: Dante, Gulatch, Moon, Visc, Koorin, Big, Beng
SCi: Tama, Anete, Shu,
FD: Beckers, Moon, Hash, Pha, Pilan, Dung, Motega
US: Oath, Zun, Glue, Splinter, Dzao, Beckers, Sha

Anyway you get the point...
And also.. If people are grinding there are lower level regions for that... worked well for me until I re-learned PR :-)

#35 Added by Pappasmurf 10 years ago [en]

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Mastered PR in august / september
Died once from 190-250

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#36 Added by Yragael 10 years ago [en]

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Djaimse

2) que les Primes soient totalement imprévisibles, les pop totalement aléatoires en xl et sup, les patrouilles parfois nombreuses, parfois rares ...

En gros, rajouter de l'aventure.

I would suport such a situation : ramdomness for mats spotting moment (no more season change / reboot rush hour) and randomness for KP occurrences (without correlation between both events).

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#37 Added by Arfur 10 years ago [en]

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I got my first Master in PR Dig before Christmas last year (not sure exactly when but definitely after KP were reintroduced). No it wasn't easy (at first) and yes I died a lot but I also learned a lot. Like how to dodge KP and where the (relatively) safe spots are.

BTW I had already learned that if you are grinding then 1) dig choice mats so you don't waste time waiting for weather and 2) stay out of PvP areas. I consider gankers to be more of a threat than KP.

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#38 Added by Wayness 10 years ago [en]

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Mastered the PR diggin a few weeks ago, I didn t find it that hard.
There are plenty of safe spots, and i ve never been attacked by PvPers.

I'm also supporting this :

Djaimse

2) que les Primes soient totalement imprévisibles, les pop totalement aléatoires en xl et sup, les patrouilles parfois nombreuses, parfois rares ...

#39 Added by Skyshot 10 years ago [en]

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Les patrouilles n'auraient jamais du diparaitre... maintenant les PR sont pleines de Noobs-foreurs 250 qui se plaignent de plus pouvoir emmener leurs rerolls pour charger la sup et camper les rois.

Si vous aviez monté votre forage sans catas illimités et avec les patrouilles présentes, jamais il ne vous serait venu à l'esprit de vous plaindre de leur nombre.

Pourquoi garder les aggros et ne pas faire d'Atys un vaste champs de cratchas à farmer.. suprimer les factions puisque plus personne ne semble s'en soucier...
Nan mais sérieux.. ce jeu est devenu n'importe quoi... faut jouer à "Dora l'exploratrice Online" pour explorer les régions sans peine.

#40 Added by Binarabi 10 years ago [en]

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Les patrouilles n'auraient jamais du diparaitre... maintenant les PR sont pleines de Noobs-foreurs 250 qui se plaignent de plus pouvoir emmener leurs rerolls pour charger la sup et camper les rois.

Si vous aviez monté votre forage sans catas illimités et avec les patrouilles présentes, jamais il ne vous serait venu à l'esprit de vous plaindre de leur nombre.

Pourquoi garder les aggros et ne pas faire d'Atys un vaste champs de cratchas à farmer.. suprimer les factions puisque plus personne ne semble s'en soucier...
Nan mais sérieux.. ce jeu est devenu n'importe quoi... faut jouer à "Dora l'exploratrice Online" pour explorer les régions sans peine.

The patrols would never have of the diparaitre maintaining the PR are full of Noobs-foreurs 250 who complain to be more able to take their rerolls to load(charge) the sup and pull kings.

If you had gone(taken) up your drilling without disasters unlimited and with the present patrols, never he(it) would have occured you to pity you of their number.

Why to keep aggros and not make Atys vast one fields of cratchas in farmer .. suprimer the factions because nobody anymore seems to care it...
Nan but seriousness .. this game became anything ... needs to play in "Gilded the On-line explorer" to explore the easy regions

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#41 Added by Zendae 10 years ago [en]

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this is what he wanted to say :)

Skyshot, tr by me

KP should have never disappeared... now PR are full of 250 noob-foragers that complain to not be able to bring their reroll in order to load sup mats and camp for bosses.

If you had level-up your foraging skill without unlimited catalizers but with KP present, never you would have the idea to complain about their number.

Why should we keep agros and not make of Atys a vast field of cratcha to harvest.. suppress factions because nobody seems to care about it anymore...
No but seriously.. this game has become nonsense... you need to play "Dora the explorer Online" to discover regions without efforts.

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