IDEAS FOR RYZOM

Yes some 16 rounds to overcome. I am fully aware it gets progressively harder and I still stand firm that the Kami had no hill to climb. Sure they struggled a bit at the start before their numbers grew. Please don't feel the need to big up how amazing the Kami fought "against all the odds". We both know that was clearly not the case. Yes I called the battle simply because we weren't going to win. I have been in enough wars to see when that is the case.

MJ. Elvy already put up the screenshot of the Kami saying they were going to "send a message"- that much is clear. As for the declare on Elvy's attack- The Kami channel was pure outrage against Elvy for asking her question, even though they were the ones who made themselves look like fools. There were calls to attack her outpost because of it and hey presto! it was attacked. Yes there are differences but the same ugly malicious intent is behind both.

Oh we took Rift Walker's OP did we? Oh no... wait we didn't. We attacked with a small force and we did it for fun. Right so now you are going to take it into a personal level? Asylum poached members??? Who? We were a large PVP guild and as such drew the attention of many other PVPers. This happens naturally when your guild is a niche guild. Same with Syndicate even though people love to cry "They poached our member!!". I taught someone for 2 hours the basics of PVP. The next day I log in and he had sought out our GL and joined up without me even knowing, all I had said to him was that I was in a PVP guild. Clearly he didn't think much of his current guild to leave that easily. Of course though MJ your guild screamed hate in all channels for the next month. Grow up and get your facts straight.

My past shows restraint. Is it perfect? No of course not. Is yours? Mjollren the mighty megacorp lurker? There are far worse titles that could be used for you. Regardless of the past I am here trying to do my best for the future. I tried everything I could before leaving Kami to address the OP imbalance. I put forward my views and indeed got a lot of stick for it. Once all options were exhausted we left but not before taking a great deal of time over it as it is a rather large decision to make.

If it should get personal, it should get personal with me. Exactly what was the 'sentiment' regarding Armageddons? Can you please explain this becuase I am genuinely very very interested to be clarified on this.

You have every right to look at and judge the situation from your persepctive Mjollren.

I have tried, in many of my posts, to put my personal perspective forward and I belive a lot of other players did this too, some expressing the same things I did. Morale is probably one of the most significant factors at OP battle in determining how many players show up and how many remain for the duration of a battle. I can speak for my own guild members in saying that they are not bots at my command to show up to OP battles at my beck and call and stay there for the full battle. Morale is not something which you can take an OP flower for to boost it in times of need. (if only eh...) So, why do you think we left both FT and FF....

ok i've not said much on this thread, but have been keeping up with it, and since asylum was brough up, as a former member of that guild i want to say something:

when asylum was kami and active, they were a power house, due to numbers, and support from the faction, and their support of other kami was important at OP wars; that being said i know that while a supporter of the kami, they would not have supported the current system of the kami, and while that may not have changed the progress we now have, it would have sent a very clear message of how a major guild in the kami felt about things.

when asylum left kami it hurt them more then it helped because there was no longer that potential influence on the other kami to show restraint. asylum may have been seen as a bully by some, but i saw them differently. i also can say that all of the things now going on may not be going on if that power house (controlling 3 of the 250 ops) still was here, because other kami would have to consider what pissing off that guild could result in as far as getting any of those OP mat's.

there are many stories as to why asylum did what they did, one often told is to balance the game, but i think their actions only served to increase the imbalance we now find our selves in.

you may feel the need to respond to what i have said, and your welcome to, but this is my personal thoughts on the asylum matter related to "punishment" declares. i'd also like to note that asylum {previously known as temporary insanity} was known to take an OP and then return it to the former owner for the FUN of the battle, not the desire to obtain the mats, and i am not aware of any of the recent "punishment declares" being done with intentions of returning the op to the old owner.

these are my personal 2 dappers on the matter, and do not in any way reflect how i feel about my toon, my guild, or my faction.

A very interesting view point talk and one I hadn't considered before. I hadn't thought Asylum leaving could have had a detrimental effect before. Hopefully someone will step up.

As for Asylum going marauder I can tell you 100% it was to balance the game. I am not offering this up as a pure and noble motive as, although yes many of us did it with the game in mind, a PVP guild does have a lot of fun to gain from a potential increase in OP wars. PVP stagnation is the one thing in this game that sees tons of players leave constantly. If PVP was more active and rewarding in this game the playerbase would not be where it is today.

Maybe someday the higher powers that be will realize this.