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Hello,

I'd like to point tout that the vote was only about authorizing or not the Marauders to hold a booth in Fairhaven's fair. The question about authorizing them to come and buy items have not been voted during this assembly.

Its rather sad to see people try and hold back activites for marauders to do (as if we actually have any activities to do that we don't make up ourselves). The OP wars are unbalanced and there have been hundreds of posts about how to change this and imrpove this. At the end of the day it all boils down to numbers. Kami Vs Kara is unbalanced. It won't work. The only thing left is to re-balance the numbers, or have a 3rd faction to unbalance things in a favourable direction.

So when people change from their comfort and the faction they have been in their whole time playing, to simply try and improve the OP wars and help the game-- dont be asshats to them. Thanks.

Will just add to this:

I have enjoyed many FH fairs for many years and Virg even managed to win Mr. Atys one year (had to drop that in ^^). This is an event that is enjoyed by ALL the playerbase and from Ari at least (can't speak for other servers) no one has ever been excluded before.

To deny people an event which usually everyone enjoys, based on RP reasons (which very few actually participate in) is just pathetic. FH fair is an event where everyone comes together to have a good time. Grow up.

*snatching her igara pen and green stinga ink Binarabi pushes everything off her table and sets to write a letter to Virg*

Lordoy Virg!

You are forgetting that the marauders have been responsible for the destruction of a Trykerette's mind, that they have killed Trykers at every opportunity - such is the history written in the Aniro Chronicles, to be found in the Fairhaven Library.

Only recently was Nizyros put on trial and sentenced passed for his foul deads ...

My little marauders Marceline, Suboxide and Fitis have all sworn to uphold Tryer Federation Laws and their behaviour has been thoughtful and kind whilst on Tryker soil - but not all marauders are like them

It might be that over time all marauders will repent and become law abiding citizens once more, until then ...

Lorandoy, Virg
*hastily stuffs letter into the claw of the Izam and pushes him out of the guildhall door*

Drezar emerged out of the Lake of Liberty with his guild in tow. Keeping a steady pace, he slowly took off his helmet and passed it to his pet Frahar which he had been training over the last week. The Frahar attempted to nibble on the helm and upon finding it tasting quite bland, he resigned to slipping it into his rucksack. Drezar strode towards the sleeping city of Fairhaven and in the moonlight spotted a patrol wandering the shores of the Lake.

His eyes narrowed and beads of sweat began to proliferate from his forehead and ambled, like tiny Bodocs, down his face. The powerful Fyros stretched out his hands and his amplifers began to glow a soft gold. Plumes of purple smoke began to fall from the amplifiers, softly catching in the air and eventually pooling at his feet. From the pool, tendrils emerged, rising and twisting, making their way towards the unsuspecting guards. As they enveloped the guards soft thumps reverberated through the sand. The smoke drifted out into the city and soon, more soft thumps followed.

Syndicate spread out through the city, hands dipping into their bags to retrieve the papers and sticking them to the posts and walls with Kirosta secretions, occasionally stepping over a sleeping guard. Once their task was complete, they looked back at their handiwork, the hundreds of posters stuck around the city, each of them pondering at the words written on them:



"The Guardians of Shadows, as protectors of the Town Min Cho, are respectfully making a request of the Zora Theocracy that Min Cho become a trading centre that is accessible to marauders, as well as all other homins.

Our reason for this is that we have a sympathy for the struggles of this collection of warriors, we all know they are the remnants of our own races who were left behind, some even say "abandoned", in the Great Swarming and had no other choice except to make great sacrifices and live by their fighting skills and their wits. It is this struggle for existance that reaches into our hearts, homins in GoS themselves have survived kitin attacks all over Atyss and particulalry in Prime Roots where the patrols have returned and the fear and consequent high level of alertness gives them an empathy with those who struggled through so many years to survive.

This was mentioned at the recent meeting with the theocracy in Min Cho and was rejected - "Tryker ways" were seen as not befitting for Zora - yet surely our dream "of a world without tyranny or intolerance" and slavery, is a dream we can all share, regardless of our race.

The Zora serve the living planet and ally themselves with Ma' Duk, our protector and the one who restores our life when we are killed in action. They built Zora in memory of those who fell during the kitin attack and were central to the Free Trade Agreement of 2516 which was seen as a "solid foundation for building future prosperity as well as interracial understanding"

Under the FTA it was stated that "The agreement grants crafters and merchants of every nation the right to operate in serenity on an international scale independent of divergences in religious beliefs and practices" - surely this should include our lost homins, the marauders?

In addition the opening of the traders at Min Cho to the rejected and abandoned marauders will increase "competitive markets to bring innovation, growth and improvement" also bringing improved quality and a better standard of living to us all. It may also "strengthen homin development in the face of natural adversity" ... the future is uncertain to all of us ...

In addition, I would like to quote from the FTA:
"Article 3 : Rules of Origin, 3.3 Every manufactured article shall bear the name or mark of its state of origin" - this being that any articles sold in Min Cho should clearly state the maker's name and the guild that they belong to

"Article 4 : Customs and duties: 4.3 Each member state shall eliminate barriers, turnpikes to facilitate cross-border movement of homins and goods" and "4.4 Each member state shall grant temporary admission to goods free of duty" - These can be seen as an opening to trading with the mauraders - who are killed as soon as they enter any other city on Atyss

"Article 5 : The Commission: 5.2 oversee its further elaboration" further elaboration of the code is expected, this could be undertaken after the trial period of free trading in Min Cho; "5.3 seek to ... facilitate trade relations" again we need to follow the ideals of the agreement to see where this facilitation leads us.

Furthermore - this is no "Tryker frivolity" but is part of the essence of the Zora race itself and this would not be the first time Zora's have benefitted from the mauraders, a further quote, from the Medic - A Zoraï occupation "... some Zoraï scientists got their hands on an amber cube from the Old Lands that contained lost knowledge of the Medic occupation. Nobody's quite sure where it came from, though accusations fly that they purchased it from the Marauders ..."

Without trade - there can be no alternative to the protections we already have ... again it may be that we need to prepare ourselves for an uncertain future ..."



Perhaps, Virg thought, a certain Trykerette needed reminding of what once was.

An Izam flaps in.

To Virg from Mac'Od Bittty:

The Marauders are not a State. Guilds are not States. Individuals are not States.

The FTA only covers the Nations and the vendors adhering to those nations. It does not apply to guilds, individuals or affinity groups.

I sympathise with your arguments that Marauders should be able to trade, but until they show that they can be trusted to behave in a civilized fashion, it is not unreasonable for the Nations (or as they are sometimes called, States), being the sources of civilization, to act to protect their citizens, subjects and patriots.

Mac'Od Bittty, Ranger Aspirant

P.S. Rangers are a state of mind, not a State.
-- B

To quote the ghost "The agreement grants crafters and merchants of every nation the right to operate in serenity on an international scale independent of divergences in religious beliefs and practices."

I am Virg, of the Tryker nation. I am a Tryker homin and I have protected Tryker homins. I have also proudly protected Fyros and Zorai homins. I fight for homins. Just because I do not like the government does not make me any less part of my home nation. (Not my finest writing but I am half asleep here).

The Tryker Government have violated and sullied the Free Trade Agreement of 2516.

*thoughtfully taking up her igara pen, Binarabi writes a response to the leaflets posted in Fairhaven*

Lordoy Virg

As I sit a write this a request is on it's way to the citizens of the lakes and the Taliar to reconsider their decision ... so much has happened recently to Guardians of Shadows that I had forgotten the many hours spent searching the libraries of Zora to find details of the Free Trade Agreement

I can only hope that this will be reconsidered at the next meeting of the Talair

*folds the letter carefully and ties it to the leg of the Izam, giving it a kincher leg to chew on for energy*

Lordoy Jazzy, let me clear this up for you. I consulted one of the oldest Marauders, one who knows the true meaning of words, his name is Wikip Edia and he is wise beyond his years. He told me that:

"A nation is a large group of homins who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history".

I did not start as a marauder, my path has been one of many changes. I started as a mere Tryker and gained fame as such. However I soon became a devout Monk and followed the teachings of the Theocracy and the Kami. These teachings were sadly not of war and when the Karavan started pushing the boarders I choose a more brash approach, taking up the teachings of the Fyros, but still Kami.

It is only until recently that I eventually realized how corrupt, useless and lazy the government was. I realized they would be the doom of us all. Due to this, my family and I did what needed doing. I hope that makes it clear enough. I still fight for the homins of Atys but I oppose the governments and all who support them. In time more people will see the truth and join us. In time more people will see that the governments can not protect them from the dangers above and below us.


Now, onto the complete and utter violation of the Tryker Government towards the FTA. You see, looking at the teachings of Wikip Edia you may notice Jazzy, governments have nothing to do with what is essential to a nation. We Jazzy, are both the normal height for homins to be and share common ancestors no doubt. I started as a Marauder late in life, I am not one of those who was abandoned. This brings us even closer together. Although we do not share the same views, we are part of the same nation.


The marauders have acted in concordance with the FTA. The FTA states that we have to open up our goods for access for all. Now, we know that many people struggle to enter our camps, so in fact we have maintained close relations with the Matisian merchants and you will find them selling our goods in any Matis city.


The Tryker Government must change their decision. The FTA is fundamental to the progression of Atys. Let me kindly remind you just one of the clauses you have broken, smashed and stomped into the ground:

4.2 No signatory member state of the FTA may grant exclusive trade rights to another member nation nor prejudice the rights of another member.

Marauders are members of different nations, we are part of the FTA.

[EDIT1: Spelling Mistake]

Jazzy yes I don't RP but that doesn't make me a criminal. I leave RP alone and the ppl doing it alone aswell (while they send me tells on how much they hate me and such all I do is ignore it) i'm not intruding (sometimes even try to partake but recent times less and less since everytime I try I get shot down by ppl like you).
All I want is that RP leave alone ppl playing the game for it's GP (gameplay) or atleast not forbid them from doing certain things. Those guards in FH (less now) forbid ppl from the GP they been doing for years by hiding behind RP. The Fairhaven fairs have always been more GP then RP where everyone was just as welcome and asked to partake. Yes it's organized trough RP in the meetings wich I'm thankfull some ppl wanna do. But to all of a sudden saying the fair itself is RP now because we RP organized it thats just a sad thing and will make ppl like to feel less and less welcome in this game since if GP is starting to get forbidden I have nothing to do except unsubbing and who knows who else. (not unsubbing yet Bina). I have always liked the events and tried to partake in the GP events organized by the RP community if that community now doesn't want me there and even adds extra guards well then I'll see this as a sad thing for this game and it's state of community. 

* and yes as an non RP player and non english I can't write posts in RP mode (nice job for the ppl who can) maybe somebody can  try and translate it to RP speak, or split the topics wich would make reading so much more fun

the FTA no idea who wrote is but yes it's actual part of game lore somewhere.

Marauder are anti nation? since when?
Marauder tried to convince the nations in letting them live there but power hungry the nations where they attacked the mara convois and didn't want those old homins in their teritory. Mara then settled into a small camp build with the help of trykers in the desert part of the forest. (atleast on aristople where that didn't mean anything roleplay wise)

Anyway the way I read what you say is "it's your way or the highway"? <= sorry but if I read it corectly then good bye sir and don't let the door hit you on your way out don't need ppl like that myself. This is a place to relax not to folow rules and stuff, makes me freaking sad that way of thinking.

We where 3 servers all playing differently I say lets just mix and match some stuff still do what you like to do but stop excluding ppl and stuff for an mmorpg you still need ppl wanting to play. Stop thinking black and white you can still do heavy RP but when it's public big events stop thinking like you freaking are the boss and banning ppl (you never talked with) from an event. All you'll acchieve is angry ppl (one that most lickly will get a ban when he sings i'm a barbie girl in shout the whole fair long), some others that att so you can point fingers and show how bad the mara are and so on... 
< if that makes you happy go for it and kill the game make the community feel rotten won't be my singing doing it but your RP forbidding ppl that always where welcome at an event to be banned

hmm no sorry!
1/ fair of FH was may be just GP on arispotle!
but always be RP on aniro! we have create the market place to FH so...
so what we do?

2/ i'm not all players!
i don't hate you! but i try to be rp, like you it's not a crime i think.
when i see homin attack tryker guard, i trad that it's an ennemy of trykers.
and just for information: try to compare Lore of Nevrax and your Lore... like someone know say: 'it's pathetic'

i respect ALL players! ALL! ask Bina for exemple when i have tell her long time about marauder in her guild even if she want to be taliar! ask her if i have not support her and your guild!
so dont be general! because i could be too and shoot that EN pull moob and attack always by surprise and don't try to speack other language that theirs!

please please please...
I have nomore energy to develop game content and entertain players, especially when I am severely criticized by players who only participate without "hold".

but i can reproch you to that you are rp just when you want to profite

thx all