IDEAS FOR RYZOM

While there are some bits and pieces of the four homin languages available, there is even less of them used in game. I am not asking that others start learning their "native tongue" but it would be very interesting to see some simulation of those languages in game:

Each nation—Fyros, Matis, Tryker, Zoraï—has its own chat channel. I would love to see chat from those channels show up in Around Chat as randomized strings of letters. If you're in range of someone speaking their native tongue, you hear what they say but it's unintelligible.

Just a thought.

Interesting idea; what if you can speak that language? Does it then not show in Around or can you see the actual words? That could prove problematic since a Tryker who understands Fyros might hear something meant to only be heard by the Fyros speakers in that channel.


I'd love to see more work done on the languages; why not learn your native tongue? :o)

Because not everyone is a lingual genius...
1. The older a person is the harder is it to learn a new language
2. The less a language is used the harder is it to learn

Because a lot of people don't have the time to learn a new language AND have fun playing the game

And there is almost no documentation regarding the languages in English or German - the few bits out there are mostly french.


It's not that I'm against promoting the languages but right now it's just too hard.
Rewriting all mission texts MIGHT help here but I think that'd be a huge task invested better in other things.
But I'm against publishing the race-channels in around (even if "translated") for multiple reasons:
1. same as Neela said: things meant for Matis only shouldn't be heard by Fyros (same for the other races)
2. how is it supposed to be translated? If I speak in the Fyros channel it could be German or English or even a mix.


Here are some things that I think could be done to promote the languages though (most would be in around chat as well):
1. Translate the default emotes and depending on the speakers' race it'll be in the related language.
2. Make "random talk" by NPCs in the language (eg. things the guards say "The Area is now safe")
3. Create new missions from a "linguist": he or she could give missions like "please translate this old document I've found" where you have to go to multiple persons to get the translations for multiple parts of the document.

I like Jarnys' ideas 2 & 3, but not the first.

Translating all emotes of a character into his race's native language might promote the language. But - as Jarnys pointed out himself, players with little time to learn the language no longer understand the expression. We would be forcing something upon players, and that's never been a good thing. Also this would in fact restrict role play: For now my Zorai character chooses to be almost neutral with regards to the races. I would not want him to predominantly talk in Taki Zorai only. As a "Far Traveller", if I as a player had the time, I'd make it a point to talk in all four languages and change all the time to my liking.

Having additional linguists missions is a huge task, but might be something that could be "outsourced" to players who are very interested in RP language development. With the ARCC system this might be possible. I'd encourage interested folks to contact the event/csr team to see if that's feasible. I'd welcome further player added content.

Having the NPCs talk in their native language is an excellent idea, especially if it's not every NPC, 100% of the time. I previously started a discussion on the idea to have an NPC in cities walking around announcing public events - a city "announcer" or "market crier". Bringing more dynamic life into the life in the cities would be nice. I don't know how much of this could be done by the devs only, and how much could be done by interested players-become-event/csr folks.

Kek!

;)

Is there somewhere online with more details on the languages for those curious to learn a little? Maybe there is a link in the wiki, this or the old forum. I will begin my search but any help would be appreciated!

I was going to send you a bunch of links, but en.ryzomnomnom.com is down and so is aedenartisans.com. :sadface:

Here is one for the languages, but it is in French. http://ryzomworld.free.fr/langage/#.

The languages, by the way, were 95% or more created by the early players.

http://forums.ryzom.com/showthread.php?t=34021 is a link to an old thread with some links in it, but I have not yet followed them to see if they are still live.

Aha! http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Races_of_Atys#Homin_Races -- you can drill down to the languages.

Thank you for the rare knowledge Bittty :D I appreciate the links

Here's something to cheer you up and wipe this sad face away:
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Mateis
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Taki_Zora%C3%AF
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Language_of_the_Tryker
http://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Fyrk

Oh that is a site for sore eyes :-D