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#54 Report | Quote[en] 

I don't believe I am quick to disregard other views them just because I don't agree with them. I have even agreed with some people which is very unusual for me. I think long and hard before posting and if I do disagree with someone, I don't have trouble saying that and giving my reasons why. I hope that people would read through this topic and see that just because the Kami control lots of outposts, doesn't mean its game over and they should give up.

Yes we are trying to make OP battles fun rather than just white-washing the Karavan. This creates an environment where people can build on their pvp skills. At the most recent battle a new Karavan player told me they were thoroughly enjoying it, which for me, makes it worth while. I had heard on the next battle they didn't so much because two defeats in a row can prove to be hard to take. Of course we will never purposefully loose but this does not mean we cannot be beaten. That is in the hands of the Karavan to prepare an attack that does win. The next Karavan win I believe will be on their terms and their declaration as then they will be prepared and ready.

Yes I do remember that situation. I attacked a RW member for creating a forum post about an Asylum member in an attempt to publicly humiliate and slate him. I stated he should have dealt with the matter privately and that the attempt to deface our member was amongst other things childish. On this forum post I have made reference to a player breaking the CoC at an OP battle. However I did not mention it to shame the member, but instead to explain the Kami's unsporting behaviour which many people had pointed out was upsetting and demoralising. I wanted to make it clear that behaviour on both sides of the battle needed to improve, not just on the Kami side. Of course as I said, the incident does not excuse the behavior, but nonetheless it is the reason for it.

One of the main points in the post was to show the people who are in your position that they can still win with a bit of effort. It is very easy to slip into a deafest attitude and I have been in that position before back when AA were very strong. I understand many Karavan are feeling very defeated, as I had, but believe me when I say they can come back from this.

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#55 Report | Quote[en] 

I've just read four pages of comments on how kara should or shouldn't do this and how kami should or shouldn't do that. None of it hits the real point of this game.

Ryzom is not a game of "follow this story arc and you win" like traditional mmos are. Ryzom is, as some have pointed out, a sandbox. That sandbox has a very particular focus, being that of scarce resources.

The drive to collect scarce resources creates conflict.

The game contemplates two (or possibly more) sides to drive that confict. It's a competition, not a cooperation. The game is set up that way.

"Why can't we just get along" works on a faction basis but not a cross-faction basis, when scarce resources are at stake. Therefore, we group with opposing faction people but we don't do so during OP wars or supernodes.

During scarce resource events, we compete. We do so by crafting gear designed to help us compete. We do so by working hard on the skills of competition.

No apologies for what I have written. I stand by this.

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Gilgameesh (atys)

In the past, there were real alternatives in the gameplay, and PvP was not the main part of it. Tho, it was a fun activity to do sometimes, for both losers and winners. Now PvP is the main focus of the game. More, since the merge, Ryzom turned as a full PvP game.

This game is PvP as much as it is PvE.A handfull of ppl like to PvP here, most forage n craft.I love PvP and for me to find 1 tagged person to have some some fun its like winning the lottary, so pls do NOT say that ryzom is turned in to a PvP game cause thats kinda ironic.Some say that this game started as a PvE game and PvP was brought to ryzom later so ryzom should be as intended to be, a PvE game... HELLO this is a 10 yo game and PvP is here for quite some time.If u do not like PvP then dont do it no1 forces u to but pls stop trying to demise PvP in every chance u get.If u dont like it dont do it.
Forage your nodes craft your items kill a yubo and pls let the PvP communaty of this game alone we are a few

#57 Report | Quote[en] 

Its a game...

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+ Tendrili.

#59 Report | Quote[en] 

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Trying to sort out an issue that many people are having with this game. Great contribution.

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Virg (atys)
Yes Bina, alts are part of it however a conversation about alts will just get messy (feel like I'm having to repeat myself a fair bit here). I could for example point out Yorran, from what I saw, was in control of more alts than Yakapo at the last war I attended. Now that would be controversial that many people wouldn't have known about would they?? Stop bashing Yakapo for the love of Ma-Duk.

Stop bringing it up - promise you - Yaka had more than anyone else - please stop trying to defend him and just tell us to suck-it-up!

Already written to Yaka outside of fourms - so just drop it will you Virg!!

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Bringing it up?? I am the one trying to prevent the alt talk. You, amoungst others, are trying to drag the alt talk in.

If what I saw was correct, you are wrong. Please stop trying to drag this topic into a mindless arguement about alts.

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#62 Report | Quote[en] 

You just cannot leave it alone - I can count as easy as anyone else - Drop it for goodness sake!!!
Ask Yaka about the mail I sent him just to try and stop this being a he-says/she-says debate
Last word Virg??

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#63 Report | Quote[en] 

Virg
No more talk on yaka or his alts from now please. Unless in a friendly manner and relevant to the subject.
Virg
This topic is degrading into a discussion about alts. There are many alt users on both sides. Lets steer this away from a discussion about alts. Make a separate topic if you want to talk about that.
Virg
Regardless of if it does or doesn't, a conversation about alts will turn sour. I would rather this topic was not blocked.
Virg
Yes Bina, alts are part of it however a conversation about alts will just get messy (feel like I'm having to repeat myself a fair bit here). I could for example point out Yorran, from what I saw, was in control of more alts than Yakapo at the last war I attended. Now that would be controversial that many people wouldn't have known about would they?? Stop bashing Yakapo for the love of Ma-Duk.

Yes I am definitely the one who keeps trying to bring up alts. Oh wait, no. That is you.

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#64 Report | Quote[en] 

What do you want people to write about? :)

#65 Report | Quote[en] 

To share their views on outposts as they have been doing, without going into a slagging match about alts. The whole point was to generate a discussion in which people can debate about the current outpost situation.

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#66 Report | Quote[en] 

Virg (atys)
however in this post I will be addressing those players who believe it is the reason.

There is no topic of discussion, our kami overlords are just addressing us, now shut up and agree with them!

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*gets his whip out*

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#68 Report | Quote[en] 

Let't talk about armor. You should see the HA Meagon made for me. I can't believe that the karavan/matis are not winning every battle with it.

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