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#20 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en] 

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I would prefer it if the transducer could open up the megacorp webpage and therefore incorporate the megacorp website into gameplay.

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#21 Added by Naema 1 decade ago [en] 

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There ya go Virg, +1 !

#22 Added by Gilgameesh 1 decade ago [en] 

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Naema (atys)
Roleplay wise, all we know is some big chunk of metal crashed from the sky and we got these Tricorder thingies and were able to boost and charge them up then scan for frequencys, (If we even know what frequencys are!)

So, yes, there is a little room for role play here, but we know nothing about the Web site or megacorp yet or even this new chat system,correct? Since there is no computers on Atys we cannot log on to it. In real life we all know about it, but not on Atys yet. However, something here has happened on Atys, so they have to develop it more i think. There is apparently other intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. If we can even deduce that from this crash.

Incorrect, imho. Once you syncronize with the artifact, you receive a message that you, the homin, can log into the megacorp site, and gives you the address.

So, in game homins just got something that gave them clues about "reality". I think this was not the real intention of the event team, but this is the result.

Gilgameesh sync'ed and the artifact gave him a link to the megacorp site, so Gilgameesh learned how to use "reality" to go there and log into the site, thank's to the counterpart of him.

So, now Gilgameesh know that a counterpart of himself exists somewhere and that without that counterpart, he could not exists at all in Atys.

Event team now, cannot close the event and just forget it, leaving a chat system somewhere, a window that open a rift between Atys and another reality, where our counterparts live.

If they do that I will start rolling on floor heavily laughing.

I think the event team was a bit superficial in doing this event, not considering all the conseguences, at least for people that still consider MMORPG exactly what they should be: RPG games.

Of course you can just forget everything and continue as usual, but, really, given I have read now the notice board, this is an incredibly poor event design.

They can fix it, of course: go further in the story ad find something logical that can add a real meaning to the event.

Anyway, they got something right: the mail sent to me was very intriguing at the point I have resubbed just to see (and participate to) the event. Unfortunately for me there is no reason to continue subbing. I really don't wanna redo everything already done since 2004, just to get some stuff already got in the past.
Since the merge, Atys is dead for me (this is only my personal feeling, nothing against the only game i always deeply loved, despite all the mistakes done in the years).

Unless the devs/event team really start doing interesting events (real events, that involve everyone) and something that moves this stagnant world a bit forward.

In this case I could (but i'm sure a lot would) really return full time into this crazy plant.

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#23 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago [en] 

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+1 Gilgameesh :)

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#24 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en] 

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i can only reply with a +1 i guess to gilgameesh but this +1 should count as a +2 a +3 a +4 a+5 a+9999999...99999

really ryzom says it's an adapting world on it's front page there are alot of gilgameshes around who resubbed or used a f2p alt atm because of the dissapointments they had in the past.

Can you really ignore ppl like gilgamesh is my question? They are some of the most repsected ppl in this game roleplay and non roleplay at the same time. Ryzom says on it' website to be proud of homins being able to write their own content and history.
So let homins embrace this new histroy we where given and bring back some old homins that where respected into the community and let them bring in some of their frieds aswell they met in other newer games.

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#25 Added by Jezabel 1 decade ago [fr] 

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Gilgameesh (atys)
Incorrect, imho. Once you syncronize with the artifact, you receive a message that you, the homin, can log into the megacorp site, and gives you the address.
So, in game homins just got something that gave them clues about "reality". I think this was not the real intention of the event team, but this is the result.
Gilgameesh sync'ed and the artifact gave him a link to the megacorp site, so Gilgameesh learned how to use "reality" to go there and log into the site, thank's to the counterpart of him.

The first part of your sentence is true, not the second.
You've found an artifact and feed it with the help of a big machine. Once synchronized, the artifact gave you a bunch of letters with "megacorp.io" inside.

And that's all for the roleplay homin part. Nothing else. What means the word 'login' for a homin ? Nothing. What is a website for a homin ? Nothing. The strange artifact give you a strange sentence and you have questions but no response for now.

The other part of the event (the website) is for the real player, not for the homin. It's a mix of RP and HRP event. This event break the fourth wall

Your homin can't acces the website because your are on atys and you doesn't have a computer. The artifact doesn't have a keyboard, just one button. Nowhere it is written that the artifact can display the website and let you enter a login/password (that your homin doesn't know). And the website is written in a language that the homin certainely doesn't know.

I think that the RP part of this event is just the first stone of a long RP path to the truth. The homin will have other RP events where he will discover some parts of what the player can read actually on megacorp.io

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#26 Added by Rollocks 1 decade ago [en] 

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Suboxide (atys)
embrace this new history

How can history be new? Is this some sort of doublespeak? While were at it lets get some new antique light colored black armor.


Have you drank the C-60 laced kool-aid??

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#27 Added by Gilgameesh 1 decade ago [en] 

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Jezabel (atys)
Gilgameesh (atys)
Incorrect, imho. Once you syncronize with the artifact, you receive a message that you, the homin, can log into the megacorp site, and gives you the address.
So, in game homins just got something that gave them clues about "reality". I think this was not the real intention of the event team, but this is the result.
Gilgameesh sync'ed and the artifact gave him a link to the megacorp site, so Gilgameesh learned how to use "reality" to go there and log into the site, thank's to the counterpart of him.

The first part of your sentence is true, not the second.
You've found an artifact and feed it with the help of a big machine. Once synchronized, the artifact gave you a bunch of letters with "megacorp.io" inside.

And that's all for the roleplay homin part. Nothing else. What means the word 'login' for a homin ? Nothing. What is a website for a homin ? Nothing. The strange artifact give you a strange sentence and you have questions but no response for now.

The other part of the event (the website) is for the real player, not for the homin. It's a mix of RP and HRP event. This event break the fourth wall

Your homin can't acces the website because your are on atys and you doesn't have a computer. The artifact doesn't have a keyboard, just one button. Nowhere it is written that the artifact can display the website and let you enter a login/password (that your homin doesn't know). And the website is written in a language that the homin certainely doesn't know.

I think that the RP part of this event is just the first stone of a long RP path to the truth. The homin will have other RP events where he will discover some parts of what the player can read actually on megacorp.io

I'm sorry, but you fail in logic, imho.

If the sentence from the artifact was just a "bunch of letters" Gilgameesh could not in any way log in the website of Megacorp. Instead, Gilgameesh without any doubt, logged in that site. With some help from somewhere....

How he could understand that "bunch of letters" at the point to login into and chat with all other homins in Atys?

Homins doesn't have computers? True.
Gilgameesh logged into a place and have spoken with every homin in Atys? True.

Solve this puzzle.

More... even if the artifact contains "bunch of words"... who built it? who knows the existance of Megacorp.io and the meaning of that strange words? who built the request for charging the battery? the artifact exists in the Atys universe. Or not?
How Gilgameesh could understand what was "recharging battery" and "search for frequencies"? But he did both.

You cannot say, rping, that homins cannot understand the artifact and its words, because they did!

But your last statement in reality confirm my assumption: when you write "the homin will have other RP events where he will discover some parts of what the player can read on megacorp site" you are implying that the homin will be aware of the player, in other words.... its counterpart. That's exactly what i assumed in my previous post. Actually it's the only logical explanation to this event.

And the fourth wall you linked is exactly that: fictional character that aknowledge the reader/player.

The big mistake is to mention Megacorp.io from an artifact fallen from the Atys sky. You can't mix IC and OOC without falling in logic. They must be strictly separated.

If the event team wanted to introduce a new chat system, just use the Ryzom facebook group, that's fully OOC. If you use an ingame event, you have to rely with all the necessary logic, otherwise the event is, back to the point, non-sense.

Edit: a simple solution would have been to have really the artifact words totally encrypted, and give hints only thru facebook group. In this way, the player would have understood what to do, without Gilgameesh understanding anything.

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#28 Added by Rollocks 1 decade ago [en] 

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The C60 is used to create nanites which will destroy us and our world. (OOC: Not to mention the damage the nefarious javascript code that is run when log into megacorp.io will cause.)

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#29 Added by Mermaidia 1 decade ago [fr] 

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I agree with Jezabel on all points.
Tamarea answered to our question concerning our homins and what they know atm, it is a good thing and now we have to wait till saturday to get more information from event team.

I have a few questions for all those want to include the whole thing in roleplay :

1) Maybe you can consider that there is a screen on the artifact but can you tell me how Gilgameesh (or any other homin) got the personal logs (ID + password of an account) of his player please ?

2) How can you explain all the discussions you had on UNI (or other chans) since the event knowing that all channels except "arounds(*)" are considered as OOC ?

Thanks in advance for your answers :)


(*) idk what is its name in EN, we call it "alentours" in FR
#Edit : sorry i edit my first phrase, the post was from Jezabel, not Icus.

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Homins, unissons-nous et agissons dès maintenant afin de préparer notre futur sur la Belle Atys!
Libres et fiers, en quête de notre histoire commune et de nos racines, nous retrouverons et protégerons ce monde qui nous a tant fait vibrer!

#30 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en] 

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Jezabel (atys)
Gilgameesh (atys)
Incorrect, imho. Once you syncronize with the artifact, you receive a message that you, the homin, can log into the megacorp site, and gives you the address.
So, in game homins just got something that gave them clues about "reality". I think this was not the real intention of the event team, but this is the result.
Gilgameesh sync'ed and the artifact gave him a link to the megacorp site, so Gilgameesh learned how to use "reality" to go there and log into the site, thank's to the counterpart of him.

The first part of your sentence is true, not the second.
You've found an artifact and feed it with the help of a big machine. Once synchronized, the artifact gave you a bunch of letters with "megacorp.io" inside.

And that's all for the roleplay homin part. Nothing else. What means the word 'login' for a homin ? Nothing. What is a website for a homin ? Nothing. The strange artifact give you a strange sentence and you have questions but no response for now.

The other part of the event (the website) is for the real player, not for the homin. It's a mix of RP and HRP event. This event break the fourth wall

Your homin can't acces the website because your are on atys and you doesn't have a computer. The artifact doesn't have a keyboard, just one button. Nowhere it is written that the artifact can display the website and let you enter a login/password (that your homin doesn't know). And the website is written in a language that the homin certainely doesn't know.

I think that the RP part of this event is just the first stone of a long RP path to the truth. The homin will have other RP events where he will discover some parts of what the player can read actually on megacorp.io

Did you actually look close to the machine it has a display on it (opening it in gimp might help you see it)
secondly we got 3 comunity's here that still aren't merged into one wich i think is impossible and over 50 diferent idea's of what roleplay is so don't tell ppl what you think roleplay is and tell them what they do is wrong pls since we all roleplay differently. If you really want a debate of what roleplay is search these forums or make a new post and get your trolling on.

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#31 Added by Gilgameesh 1 decade ago [en] 

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Mermaidia (atys)
I agree with Icus on all points.
Tamarea answered to our question concerning our homins and what they know atm, it is a good thing and now we have to wait till saturday to get more information from event team.

I have a few questions for all those want to include the whole thing in roleplay :

1) Maybe you can consider that there is a screen on the artifact but can you tell me how Gilgameesh (or any other homin) got the personal logs (ID + password of an account) of his player please ?

2) How can you explain all the discussions you had on UNI (or other chans) since the event knowing that all channels except "arounds(*)" are considered as OOC ?

Thanks in advance for your answers :)


(*) idk what is its name in EN, we call it "alentours" in FR

Uhm. Point no. 2 sounds a good point, but the point 1 is stated at the contrary.... is not Gilgameesh that knows IDs but its counterpart. As stated, there is an aknoledgement between the character and the actor.

Anyway, just remove the RP prefix to this event. As it was presented in the mail, it seemed a full RP event with a story. And if you are not aware of the email content, i can just post it if you want.

So, i understand that's better to forget the Roleplaying and consider this event just similar to an halloween event or atysmas event.

But would have been much more exciting having something RP involving the history and the future of Atys....

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#32 Added by Mermaidia 1 decade ago [fr] 

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Suboxide (atys)
so don't tell ppl what you think roleplay is and tell them what they do is wrong pls since we all roleplay differently. If you really want a debate of what roleplay is search these forums or make a new post and get your trolling on.
Erf. Sounds a bit unpleasant...
Sub, as an information, you should know that Bina came on FR forums yesterday to ask us our point of view, that is the only reason why we answer on this topic. Be zen ;)

Gilgameesh (atys)
Anyway, just remove the RP prefix to this event. As it was presented in the mail, it seemed a full RP event with a story. And if you are not aware of the email content, i can just post it if you want.

So, i understand that's better to forget the Roleplaying and consider this event just similar to an halloween event or atysmas event.

But would have been much more exciting having something RP involving the history and the future of Atys....
I am not pointing Gilgameesh, just quoting the name of your homin as an example but maybe my english doesn't help me a lot :p
I got the mail to and I was disappointed by the turn of the event but I don't want to be negative without knowing more. I want to trust in animation team and wait till saturday, you should do the same :)

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Homins, unissons-nous et agissons dès maintenant afin de préparer notre futur sur la Belle Atys!
Libres et fiers, en quête de notre histoire commune et de nos racines, nous retrouverons et protégerons ce monde qui nous a tant fait vibrer!

#33 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en] 

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:'(

< above describes how I feel with this game and the sad state of it is. So called roleplay debating zorai notice board for over 1 year and so on .... We all play diferently and we all roleplay differenty, I loved the taliary debates about the rules of the mister atys on aristople myself that took les then 2 meetings. What tamarea did on an obscure hidden away forum post has no meaning to me at all and she has not answered my questions on CeB either wich just proves the sad state this game is in; why ignore some basic questions.
We haven't gotten anypatch notes for the last patch/event. Even when they add or change things ingame we don't get patch notes they added a new support button in webIG, changed bulk on pyr beer barrels and so on... Why not tell us?

I would love a q&a with the ppl running the event team atm and see what they think since I suspect a small minority is running them or pointing them into a direction back to the kittin and away from anything new. Making it impossible for alot of homins to voice their opinions while others can keep going on running their ideas and their event team for themselfs.

I've had CSR tell me "run your own event team" but you can only do this up to some point. The english zorai gov had such a great idea about a market where EVERY homin could attent to and buy suplies from being it fireworks, op mats from others or just q50 armors and the whole range inbetween. In the end they got a reply to run it trought the impossible burocracy of the oter 2 language goverements (actually telling  them to watch out for certain homins in those gouverment that would teh idea and never let it pass) and telling them this isn't really zorai but more something trykers should do (why? is my question isn't a zorai allowed to have it's own mind and ideas and that was the same question the english zorai gov has even if it's only ran by 2 ppl atm doesn't mean alot of ppl know and love their idea and every homin is allowed to join their gouverment and voice their opinions; maybe event team should ask themself why its only ran by 2 ppl atm and not more)
WAKE UP EVENT TEAM!!!!  there is no zorai or tryker or momo or whatever unknown npc hiding in the icon whorsipers tribe to send an izam to, you advertise on your website ppl can choose their own destiny and influence the game but at hurdle number one (mara entering a town without guard attacking em) you tell them to STOP. Instead of thinking around the problem. In my opinion a gouverment should be allowed to run their town as they see fit or atleast an event team should come with a solution maybe a market on an old abandonned outpost 50meters from town.
There are countless of these kinds of problems I hear every day. Do I wanna run the event team NO; but I didn't choose to run it did I? Instead all stuff is put into killing some kittin with termites (atleast have the decentcy to invent an atys aproprieate name instead of termites since if you read the bible .... (i rather don't get banned for spoilers here))

ps. Anyone who wants to get the english bible revision 9 (it's not perfect I know) can send me an Izam ingame and I'll gladly send it to them since it seems all the 'hardcore' roleplayers in this game have it and love to quote a spoiler or 2 from it now and then. Why should us normal folk not be allowed to know about the intersting tribes in it anyway (half the tribes they RP around i can only find in the bible and not on atys.ryzom.com anyway), pls don't read the 50 pages of tribes but just the intresting first pages and then from page 20 and so on. If you ban me then pls scan all pc's of the so called hardcore rp players since they all love to admit to own it aswell.
< Do look out since even reading the first sentence of that doc might change how you see or think about ryzom forever, don't not say I didn't warn you.

POWER TO THE PPL IS ALL WHAT RYZOM.COM SAYS we influence the game not a minority that want's to kill the game for 95% pf ppl playing.

Suboxide out now...

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#34 Added by Neela 1 decade ago [en] 

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ps2. If I don't see a decent post by anyone from event team explaining how they opened pandoras box for 10% then closed it to never talk about it again ingame i'll send out the bible to all that have requested it after 48h.

Errm were we not suposed to share it? I've been sending it to anyone who asked for it since I got a copy. Oops my bad! :-p

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