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#30 Added by Virg 1 decade ago
That's the norm, 90% of the server is usually not aware of what's going on.. People have been alienated from fyros akenak events (weeks spent discussing uniform colors), people were alienated from zorai meetings (hours upon hours of discussion only very knowledgeable players could follow), etc.
As of now, there is literally no way for you to be part of the Ranger organization, or even a way to be a Ranger aspirant.. without Wilk Potskin naming you so. Have you asked the animator if you can join the Aspirant ranks simply by displaying a "kitin murderer" title, showing you've been helping with the kitin issue?
I saw the teaser in the forums (did not know it was a teaser) and tried to log in last week. The only reason I didn't was because I was at work, and I thought it was a dodgy redirect website. If I had logged in at that time I would have had a 'head start' like Daomei. At that time none of us knew what this web page was all about and I forgot about it until the 'Night of Stars'. Only then did I see that the web page was part of it all.
#31 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago
At a rough guess dependant on my friends I would say about 60% of the player base didn't know it was even a thing until it was too late. As I have already stated before it was not announced or told to anyone outside the meetings to my knowledge. Your comment that people have to engage in RP is ludicrous. First and foremost I will repeat myself once again: At the time that the termite event was conceived there were many people out there who actively hunt and kill kitins. Many of these people were aspiring rangers but do not like the whole talking- roleplaying and as such didn't attend the meetings. These people were not given an opportunity. Only a select few who regularly attended meetings as far as I am aware.
The more recent termite activity involved only 3 people at most. I would hazard a guess at around 90% of the server did not know what was going on. There are forum posts by the rangers and I respect that however many, such as myself, have already been alienated from previous events.
You do not see any fyros, tryker, zorai, matis etc events that are limited to just a few select people being able to activate them.
Please look into the subject before making such claims. I was told by Daomei herself it was a mini game.
Once again you associate rangers with RP. You make a huge mistake in thinking that a prerequisite of the ranger faction is that you have to RP. You make such bold claims- please tell me where you are getting your information from?
From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it.
I would be interested to know where it is mentioned. If you could post a link that would be great thanks.
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#32 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago
From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it, and I think there even were links posted somewhere on the Ryzom forums for those who have no idea what's all about.
Where?? Let me read this!
#33 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago
No you would have not had a head start. I tried like many other people to log in unsuccessfully. It would appear (correct me if im wrong Daomei) that Daomei found a way past the security or an area with no security. I can see why people would call you a hacker if this is the case. As in essence thats kind of what you did. Firstdo found an area with no security also- and he got banned for it.
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#37 Added by Virg 1 decade ago
Oh my, that bloody termite project is running for at least a year now, and the RP forum is plastered with contributions by various players regarding it one way or the other, namely Bittty, Daomei, Feylin, and Zhoi. The Trykers and Fyros were involved, giving their blessing, while the Zorai and Matis opposed the project. It was dragged through countless meetings of four player parliaments and every Ranger meeting since the (as it feels) beginning of time. True, those who neither attend any meeting and keep away from forum postings probably have never ever heard of it.
That is most likely true. Yet you see enough events where people complain afterwards that they didn't know about it.
You did not say that you were told that by Daomei until now. As far as I'm concerned, I guess it uses all the technical aspects of a mini game. I never bothered to find out, but had a look at the termite mounds once or twice.
I do associate aspects of the Rangers with RP, indeed - as I do aspects of the fractions, or of the nations, as strictly RP.
The ryzom bible.
#38 Added by Virg 1 decade ago
Virg --As Salazar has pointed out, there is no way to become a Ranger the way that one can become a Kami or Karavan follower or become the subject or citizen of any of the Nations or even become a Marauder. Therefore, to become a Ranger (or rather to aspire to be a Ranger), you must roleplay it. Period. There is no other way to do it -- yet. This doesn't mean that you have to write long, formal third-person narratives about what you are doing, but it does mean that you have to use your imagination and pretend things, because the game mechanics don't support Rangers -- yet.
You also seem to have a very limited idea of what a Ranger is. All homins should (and usually do) fight kitins -- that does not make them Rangers. Digging kitin larvae is lucrative in terms of crafting -- again, that doesn't make the digger a Ranger
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#39 Added by Bitttymacod 1 decade ago
The scripts and files that he set up to do the termite mounds first in Almati, and then in the Lakes and the Desert and in Hidden Source were buggy and dependent upon a long cycle time. They were not "mini games" the way that harvesting is, debugged and available in multiple instances that are independent and capable of being played by multiple players all at once. There were only a few instances of the the termite mounds and they were as much a test of the ARCC and WebIG interfaces as they were learning for the Rangers.
Ranger aspirants identified themselves and proved their commitment by doing things (which included harvest missions and combat missions) and by adjusting their fame and giving up adherence to Nation and Faction.
This is getting slightly off topic into what makes a ranger however I will raise a few points to you:So far how well have the rangers done in fighting off the kitin threat with rotoa trees? Have they made things worse? Do you intend to seal the kitins off? Do you not foresee another great swarming eventually? What about the kitins that aren't on the other side of the "barrier" when you block the other kitins out? Will these need killing?
#40 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago
Daomei if you just simply logged on what was all the sorting through the old ryzom server that you mentioned to do with? I checked many times to see if megacorp was open but it wasn't. It would seem highly unusual that the devs would just open megacorp to all before the event as it would in fact destroy the purpose of the event.Going on my personal experience of trying to login to no avail- and on others the only difference would be what you did with the OVH SAS. I know absolutely nothing about computer technicalities so hopefully you can clear up what you were actually doing on there.
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#41 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago
((By the way, Salazar, as far as we have been told by Wilk, PvP is not inherently forbidden. My own commitment and that of Phaedreas Tears to no PvP is personal to us, not part of our Ranger orientation. However, I am not at all sure that tagging up is possible if you are not an adherent of one of the Nations, Factions or Mara. If it is possible, someone will enlighten me, I'm sure. I also don't see how it could be made to fit the roleplay except perhaps in the case of fighting Marauders. Even there...))--B
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#42 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago
Last freak-out was about alt-scouting, where no one proved anything tangible, but instead went off "could"s building up an analogy to Christmas trees. The forum circle... I mean discussion went on and on and on to no end while the rest of the people were busy scouting for and killing the real bosses. Was fun to read for a bit, at least.((and btw, I was beginning to buy the story so I was running around spamming /who while scouting. The *only* situation I could call somewhat fishy is 3 Ocyketh spawns camped by Dinorath, Yorran and a suspicious-looking alt. That's all, in more than a week of reading daily about supposed campers.))So yeah.. let's read names and data this time, shall we? I find it hard to believe a cabale of In-The-Know players are here to steal our cookies. As Keldun says, ranger meetings were public; I was part of a beta test of the potions, when 4-5 teams of up to 8 people were attempting to figure the potions' effects -- on mounds located in Almati Woods. Those who put in the effort back then have every right to be selected now during events concerning those potions.Oh, and if you think someone exploited a bug I believe you should be filing a ticket instead of harassing them all over Uni chat. But that's just me.
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