IDEAS FOR RYZOM

I want to make some remarks about my access to the site megacorp.io before the event.

1. I did not know anything about the nexus between the site megacorp.io and the event The Night of the Stars prior to doing the mission and synchronizing. I have never been appointed for testing the site megacorp.io and did not expect anything from.

2. One week ago, Monday, March 17, a posting appeared in the three General forums, as a teaser to the site megacorp.io and a project related to. I read that, and looked a bit around in the internet, finding out that this DNS name existed, and pointed to an address in the name space of OVH SAS in Roubaix, France, the provider of ryzom.com servers. As I was busy with Ranger meeting, combat training, and RL, I did not try to access the site prior to Tuesday, March 18.

When accessing the site, I tried to log on as Daomei with my Ryzom password (a not too extravagant idea on a "LV-20 Ryzom Network"), and succeeded. I looked a bit around, finding out that uni chat was displayed in the chat area (iirc there was no possibility at that time to enter text, or I did not see it). Further on, language could be switched in the profile area, and there were locked documents. That was all, and I was busy, so I left, not accessing the site again before the event. That afternoon, a few players who had visited the site as well, chatted calmly a bit about, thinking about as a future web chat interface. I expressed bit roleplay oriented concern about the Megacorp thing (which might be suited to shake to the ground our worldviews and convictions as homins of Atys). After that, I forgot about and went back to my training.

When having passed the event mission and receiving the message to have been synchronized to http://megacorp.io, I of course understood the connex between the site and the event. I did not access it that evening, but went to bed and looked at it the next morning.

Only then I recognized the possibility of donating C60. I saw a relatively high amount of it on my account, and tried to find out the ratio between donations and percentage of deciphering, then. I realized only then that I had put myself ahead of at that time Joabu, Klayton, and Jarnys who led the donators' list. At that time I did not think a lot about, but during the morning, some players asked me by /tell how I had reached such an amount of C60. In the meantime, Diwu had accessed the site as well and I got aware that her C60 production only started then at a rate of 1 unit per 10 seconds. So I figured that mine must have started at my first access of the site. I explained that to the players who asked me, and they were so far content.

Much different later on Uni, where some players, especially Binarabi and Rollocks, started a real storm of hate, envy, and accusations. Again, I explained how this had happened, but my explanation was turned down as lies and excuses, and some of the haters blamed me to have hacked the site, to have cheated intentionally and so on. After a time I got tired of the enviers and haters and went back to my training. Anyway they went on accusing me on Uni the whole day.

I am appalled and disappointed about such signs of envy and immaturity. It seems that some players are cooking conspiracy theories and are grabbing for every opportunity to develop them further. Beneath that I feel personally offended by, I think that such is in no way a healthy attitude.

You were trolled by a master, nothing more, and you don't have a sense of humour to treat it as the good-natured teasing it was. We play Ryzom to have fun. Your reaction to the behaviour of others is entertaining. That's why you get teased.

At a rough guess dependant on my friends I would say about 60% of the player base didn't know it was even a thing until it was too late. As I have already stated before it was not announced or told to anyone outside the meetings to my knowledge. Your comment that people have to engage in RP is ludicrous. First and foremost I will repeat myself once again: At the time that the termite event was conceived there were many people out there who actively hunt and kill kitins. Many of these people were aspiring rangers but do not like the whole talking- roleplaying and as such didn't attend the meetings. These people were not given an opportunity. Only a select few who regularly attended meetings as far as I am aware.
False. The more recent termite activity involved only 3 people at most. I would hazard a guess at around 90% of the server did not know what was going on. There are forum posts by the rangers and I respect that however many, such as myself, have already been alienated from previous events.
You do not see any fyros, tryker, zorai, matis etc events that are limited to just a few select people being able to activate them.
Please look into the subject before making such claims. I was told by Daomei herself it was a mini game.
Once again you associate rangers with RP. You make a huge mistake in thinking that a prerequisite of the ranger faction is that you have to RP. You make such bold claims- please tell me where you are getting your information from?
That comment is completely uncalled for. I am trying to make a topic here about something which I feel needs to be corrected- or at the very least explained to me why it is occurring. I did try and log in for your information and I am not just simply "banging a drum" as you so eloquently put it.
I would be interested to know where it is mentioned. If you could post a link that would be great thanks.

Daomei:
I don't understand the OVH SAS stuff and have trouble following it sorry. In layman's terms how did you get into the site early? As for the accusations I wasn't there so don't know unfortunately.

That's the norm, 90% of the server is usually not aware of what's going on.. People have been alienated from fyros akenak events (weeks spent discussing uniform colors), people were alienated from zorai meetings (hours upon hours of discussion only very knowledgeable players could follow), etc.

People get bored of meetings full stop. This has been an issue since at least one year, at least in the English community.
Maybe because there are no mechanics in place yet? You can "be" kami by answering some questions and donating some money, same for everything else except rangers.

As of now, there is literally no way for you to be part of the Ranger organization, or even a way to be a Ranger aspirant.. without Wilk Potskin naming you so. Have you asked the animator if you can join the Aspirant ranks simply by displaying a "kitin murderer" title, showing you've been helping with the kitin issue?

I saw the teaser in the forums (did not know it was a teaser) and tried to log in last week.  The only reason I didn't was because I was at work, and I thought it was a dodgy redirect website.  

If I had logged in at that time I would have had a 'head start' like Daomei.  At that time none of us knew what this web page was all about and I forgot about it until the 'Night of Stars'.  Only then did I see that the web page was part of it all.  

We all had the same opportunity to do this and practically no-one did.  This matters very little.  The 'Leaderboard' matters even less.  My name is on there now.  This is only because I clicked something I didn't understand and accidentally donated some C60.  So what.  Big deal.

well then me and i know some others tried logging on that website atleast 10times a day since it was posted but guess we wheren't so lucky to get in or we got a not synchronized error or go kill a yubo as error each time. So yeah it's strange some ppl could get in without any kind of errors when others couldn't. So stop saying the website was open for all that tried since it wasn't for us.

The mot recent fyros event had a huge turn out, just the same for all other races. However these rangers events only involve very few people.

No quite simply for the alienation that has gone on in the rangers. I hoped this post would alert people to this and it would cause the rangers to open up to more than just RPers.
No you would have not had a head start. I tried like many other people to log in unsuccessfully. It would appear (correct me if im wrong Daomei) that Daomei found a way past the security or an area with no security. I can see why people would call you a hacker if this is the case. As in essence thats kind of what you did. Firstdo found an area with no security also- and he got banned for it.

Sorry. It was sent to me years ago (to many players, I understand), but I deleted it unread. What is the point of going on with the game if you know all the facts?

The website was announced on Facebook even before game forums, and I tried the address from the screenshot right then, also retried at different times after. Every time I got an error message.

We would need proof that Daomei (or others) have cheated when accessing the website early, but it's undeniable she has stumbled upon a rare glitch / bug / whatever you call it.

Virg --

As Salazar has pointed out, there is no way to become a Ranger the way that one can become a Kami or Karavan follower or become the subject or citizen of any of the Nations or even become a Marauder. Therefore, to become a Ranger (or rather to aspire to be a Ranger), you must roleplay it. Period. There is no other way to do it -- yet. This doesn't mean that you have to write long, formal third-person narratives about what you are doing, but it does mean that you have to use your imagination and pretend things, because the game mechanics don't support Rangers -- yet.

Wilk (specifically the event team person behind Wilk) is working on setting things up to make it possible for there to be a mechanic to become a Ranger. The first thing he had to do (reading between the lines of things he has said) was to convince the rest of the event team that there was actually a demand on the part of people who would undertake work without immediate in-game reward. That has been established. Eventually there will be mechanics that will allow homins (players) to first become Patrollers, and then to undertake a rite to become a Ranger.

The scripts and files that he set up to do the termite mounds first in Almati, and then in the Lakes and the Desert and in Hidden Source were buggy and dependent upon a long cycle time. They were not "mini games" the way that harvesting is, debugged and available in multiple instances that are independent and capable of being played by multiple players all at once. There were only a few instances of the the termite mounds and they were as much a test of the ARCC and WebIG interfaces as they were learning for the Rangers. The destruction of the Mounds in Lakes and Desert involved a grand total of 6 instances that could be affected by players. Anyone who wanted could have come and helped participate in them. You didn't have to be able to use a potion to do so. I did and I was never one of the "favorites" allowed to use potions. Even though that was supposed to be a major event and polished, at least two major bugs were discovered, one of them having the potential to disrupt normal gameplay in a major way. The only thing that I can see is that this is all beta-testing of new scripts and ideas to bring the Rangers to fruition as a new pseudo-Faction (the only true Factions being Kara and Kami).

You also seem to have a very limited idea of what a Ranger is. All homins should (and usually do) fight kitins -- that does not make them Rangers. Digging kitin larvae is lucrative in terms of crafting -- again, that doesn't make the digger a Ranger. The Rangers were established in JY 2483 "to fight the kitin threat." As Wilk pointed out in the first meetings, "fighting the kitin threat" does not mean just killing kitins. Homins have done that on a massive scale and it is not sufficient. The Rangers ' mission has evolved beyond simple killing of kitins to actually studying them and beyond simple considerations of kitins alone as threats to hominity to study of the Goo and encouragement of equality between the Nations and all homins. Hence the requirement to have positive fame with all Nations and both Factions. Hence the Ranger camp set up in Silan to help the continuing flow of Refugees from the Roots to the New Lands and there are representatives of the Nations who are not Rangers.

As for the missions of the Rangers, they do not claim exclusivity. Ser Erminantius, for instance, is studying the kitins, and the Sages have long studied the Goo, sometimes to the detriment of their health. Neither Erminantius nor the Sages are Rangers.

Ranger aspirants identified themselves and proved their commitment by doing things (which included harvest missions and combat missions) and by adjusting their fame and giving up adherence to Nation and Faction. If "mini-games" relevant to the Rangers are limited to people who have done these things ... I don't see the problem. There are many things that I cannot do as a Ranger aspirant. Ryzom is about making choices with consequences. Sometimes that means running into Void or Wastelands rather than using a teleport. Other times it means not playing a "mini-game."

-- Bittty

((By the way, in my opinion harvesting and crafting are both "mini-games" within Ryzom, just the way that missions are. Anything that involves learning a way to do things is a "mini-game". Sneaking through PR naked is a "mini-game", and so is PvP.))


((By the way, Salazar, as far as we have been told by Wilk, PvP is not inherently forbidden. My own commitment and that of Phaedreas Tears to no PvP is personal to us, not part of our Ranger orientation. However, I am not at all sure that tagging up is possible if you are not an adherent of one of the Nations, Factions or Mara. If it is possible, someone will enlighten me, I'm sure. I also don't see how it could be made to fit the roleplay except perhaps in the case of fighting Marauders. Even there...))

--B

Please read the fact I am talking about the begging in the part you are replying to. Therefore for you to reply with an account of what is currently happening is irrelevant.
When something is completely unannounced then people can complain. When an event is put into the calender then people don't really have an excuse. The ranger events are hidden from public eye.
The issue here is I am speaking from experience. This is something I have looked into with a great deal of depth. You are just voicing opinions as facts which are unfounded. If you would like to make a point at least make sure you actually know what you are talking about before attempting to do so.

You did not answer my question which is were does it say rangers have a requirement to RP? I am trying to put forward a serious discussion here. You are talking here-say on things you might "believe" to be true. Please come back after having done some actual looking into the issue at hand. You are wasting my time trying to flaunt your beliefs as factual.
Now i understand what you are referring to. A plan of the lore to come was leaked to the ryzom community several years ago.

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Daomei if you just simply logged on what was all the sorting through the old ryzom server that you mentioned to do with? I checked many times to see if megacorp was open but it wasn't. It would seem highly unusual that the devs would just open megacorp to all before the event as it would in fact destroy the purpose of the event.

Going on my personal experience of trying to login to no avail- and on others the only difference would be what you did with the OVH SAS. I know absolutely nothing about computer technicalities so hopefully you can clear up what you were actually doing on there.