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#17 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en] 

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Salazar (atys)
Yes! Indeed! Stop this! I want OP mats, too! Why don't I get it? Why do only get that bloody owners of OPs get OP mats? Why don't I own an OP in the first place? I pay as well and as much as other players! I want my own OP! Now!

And how about dappers? Why are some people so mega rich? Why do they have so exquisite armoury and weapons? I want the same, and it's unfair that I have to dig and craft and learn, for I take no pleasure in this. Yet I pay for this game, just like them, and I want the fun of this - I only don't want to do the self-tormenting bit those do to reach that goal!
You completely and utterly missed the point. You have a chance to get OP mats. You have a chance you get rich. In this game everyone has the chance to do any tasks, missions, pvp- whatever you want. It is a sandbox game- thats the point.

However we don't have a chance to do these activites that have been sanctioned for the few and closed off from the many.

Please actually read the post before replying.

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#18 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en] 

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salazar maybe read before you post next time? Pretty sure if you in support you should have had some lessons in comprehensive listening/reading?

All your points everyone ingame has a chance to do you can go for an op just get some friends to help you, you can get rich if you want to > both your points mean nothing. It's not like csr/event team only alow 5 ppl to be rich or 5 ppl to own an op is it? Everyone has a chance of being rich owning an op.

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#19 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago [en] 

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I did read the posts, as should be obvious - and it actually is obvious.

As was mentioned before, everybody was able to participate in the termite thing. You had to invest, of course - plenty of time and the will to get heavily involved into RP. For it is, indeed, a sandbox game, and RP is an important part of it. If you want to get involved, you can be involved. As it is, nothing comes without a price. If you want to become a Ranger, you have to invest. If you want to be an Akenak, you have to invest, and so on. It's more or less easy to become a Karavaneer or a Kami or a Tryker, Fyros, Zorai or Matis, but everything "above" quest running needs more effort. The Rangers - and, by Jove, I'm not one necessarily favouring them - put a lot of work and effort into the termite studies, which were, surprise, part of the Ranger education, not a "mini game" (as it seems the termite mounds were understand as such). Everybody, of course, was allowed to drop his/her loyalties and join the Rangers ... and get involved in RP, as the "mini game" was part of that. If there were plenty of favours towards someone/something recently, it was to the Ranger's fraction, not to "special people", but I guess that is what you get when you try to introduce a new fraction - you want to get them in with a bang (and, after all, it was "only" the Matis who were shot down in the process. I still carry the scars.).

As for logging in at MegaCorp - probably everybody was able to do so? I did neither search for the site, nor tried to get on. Did you, or are you just banging a drum because it didn't cross your mind? From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it, and I think there even were links posted somewhere on the Ryzom forums for those who have no idea what's all about. That people could log in pretty early was unfortunate, though. But from what I see, everybody could have been that "lucky".

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#20 Added by Neela 1 decade ago [en] 

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Salazar (atys)
As for logging in at MegaCorp - probably everybody was able to do so? I did neither search for the site, nor tried to get on. Did you, or are you just banging a drum because it didn't cross your mind? From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it, and I think there even were links posted somewhere on the Ryzom forums for those who have no idea what's all about. That people could log in pretty early was unfortunate, though. But from what I see, everybody could have been that "lucky".

No they couldn't it was tried by Xtarsia before the event. Try it, go to the megacorp website and try logging in with your normal credentials. It wont let me in so I can only assume you have to do the mission first.

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Remickla (atys)
Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#21 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago [de] 

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... it was tried by Xtarsia before the event. Try it, go to the megacorp website and try logging in with your normal credentials. It wont let me in so I can only assume you have to do the mission first.

Well, I was at the event and did the mission. However, I can also log in with the little Tryker I made ages ago for the Travelling Salesmen, and that one wasn't at Sandy Workshop (it is, in fact, on Silan). But that might rather be because my main character already gained access on Sunday.

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#22 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago [en] 

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Salazar (atys)
or are you just banging a drum because it didn't cross your mind? ...
This is an unnecessary insult, seems to my eyes Rangers appear to be a group to be avoided, there are 2 (out of 10?) who go the extra mile to lash out at others
Salazar (atys)
From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it, and I think there even were links posted somewhere on the Ryzom forums for those who have no idea what's all about.

Where?? Let me read this!

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#23 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago [en] 

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I want to make some remarks about my access to the site megacorp.io before the event.

1. I did not know anything about the nexus between the site megacorp.io and the event The Night of the Stars prior to doing the mission and synchronizing. I have never been appointed for testing the site megacorp.io and did not expect anything from.

2. One week ago, Monday, March 17, a posting appeared in the three General forums, as a teaser to the site megacorp.io and a project related to. I read that, and looked a bit around in the internet, finding out that this DNS name existed, and pointed to an address in the name space of OVH SAS in Roubaix, France, the provider of ryzom.com servers. As I was busy with Ranger meeting, combat training, and RL, I did not try to access the site prior to Tuesday, March 18.

When accessing the site, I tried to log on as Daomei with my Ryzom password (a not too extravagant idea on a "LV-20 Ryzom Network"), and succeeded. I looked a bit around, finding out that uni chat was displayed in the chat area (iirc there was no possibility at that time to enter text, or I did not see it). Further on, language could be switched in the profile area, and there were locked documents. That was all, and I was busy, so I left, not accessing the site again before the event. That afternoon, a few players who had visited the site as well, chatted calmly a bit about, thinking about as a future web chat interface. I expressed bit roleplay oriented concern about the Megacorp thing (which might be suited to shake to the ground our worldviews and convictions as homins of Atys). After that, I forgot about and went back to my training.

When having passed the event mission and receiving the message to have been synchronized to http://megacorp.io, I of course understood the connex between the site and the event. I did not access it that evening, but went to bed and looked at it the next morning.

Only then I recognized the possibility of donating C60. I saw a relatively high amount of it on my account, and tried to find out the ratio between donations and percentage of deciphering, then. I realized only then that I had put myself ahead of at that time Joabu, Klayton, and Jarnys who led the donators' list. At that time I did not think a lot about, but during the morning, some players asked me by /tell how I had reached such an amount of C60. In the meantime, Diwu had accessed the site as well and I got aware that her C60 production only started then at a rate of 1 unit per 10 seconds. So I figured that mine must have started at my first access of the site. I explained that to the players who asked me, and they were so far content.

Much different later on Uni, where some players, especially Binarabi and Rollocks, started a real storm of hate, envy, and accusations. Again, I explained how this had happened, but my explanation was turned down as lies and excuses, and some of the haters blamed me to have hacked the site, to have cheated intentionally and so on. After a time I got tired of the enviers and haters and went back to my training. Anyway they went on accusing me on Uni the whole day.

I am appalled and disappointed about such signs of envy and immaturity. It seems that some players are cooking conspiracy theories and are grabbing for every opportunity to develop them further. Beneath that I feel personally offended by, I think that such is in no way a healthy attitude.

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#24 Added by Emilie 1 decade ago [en] 

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You were trolled by a master, nothing more, and you don't have a sense of humour to treat it as the good-natured teasing it was. We play Ryzom to have fun. Your reaction to the behaviour of others is entertaining. That's why you get teased.

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#25 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en] 

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Salazar (atys)
As was mentioned before, everybody was able to participate in the termite thing. You had to invest, of course - plenty of time and the will to get heavily involved into RP. For it is, indeed, a sandbox game, and RP is an important part of it.
At a rough guess dependant on my friends I would say about 60% of the player base didn't know it was even a thing until it was too late. As I have already stated before it was not announced or told to anyone outside the meetings to my knowledge. Your comment that people have to engage in RP is ludicrous. First and foremost I will repeat myself once again: At the time that the termite event was conceived there were many people out there who actively hunt and kill kitins. Many of these people were aspiring rangers but do not like the whole talking- roleplaying and as such didn't attend the meetings. These people were not given an opportunity. Only a select few who regularly attended meetings as far as I am aware.
Salazar
If you want to get involved, you can be involved.
False. The more recent termite activity involved only 3 people at most. I would hazard a guess at around 90% of the server did not know what was going on. There are forum posts by the rangers and I respect that however many, such as myself, have already been alienated from previous events.
Salazar
It's more or less easy to become a Karavaneer or a Kami or a Tryker, Fyros, Zorai or Matis, but everything "above" quest running needs more effort.
You do not see any fyros, tryker, zorai, matis etc events that are limited to just a few select people being able to activate them.
Salazar
The Rangers - and, by Jove, I'm not one necessarily favouring them - put a lot of work and effort into the termite studies, which were, surprise, part of the Ranger education, not a "mini game" (as it seems the termite mounds were understand as such).
Please look into the subject before making such claims. I was told by Daomei herself it was a mini game.
Salazar
Everybody, of course, was allowed to drop his/her loyalties and join the Rangers ... and get involved in RP.
Once again you associate rangers with RP. You make a huge mistake in thinking that a prerequisite of the ranger faction is that you have to RP. You make such bold claims- please tell me where you are getting your information from?
Salazar
As for logging in at MegaCorp - probably everybody was able to do so? I did neither search for the site, nor tried to get on. Did you, or are you just banging a drum because it didn't cross your mind?
That comment is completely uncalled for. I am trying to make a topic here about something which I feel needs to be corrected- or at the very least explained to me why it is occurring. I did try and log in for your information and I am not just simply "banging a drum" as you so eloquently put it.
Salazar
From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it.
I would be interested to know where it is mentioned. If you could post a link that would be great thanks.

Daomei:
I don't understand the OVH SAS stuff and have trouble following it sorry. In layman's terms how did you get into the site early? As for the accusations I wasn't there so don't know unfortunately.

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#26 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago [de] 

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You were trolled by a master, nothing more, and you don't have a sense of humour to treat it as the good-natured teasing it was. We play Ryzom to have fun. Your reaction to the behaviour of others is entertaining. That's why you get teased.

This game is called mobbing, and the crowd taking amusement from is a mild form of that known from KKK. When ten are shouting at one and feel strong, be happy.

Edit: @Virg: OVH SAS is the internet provider where ryzom servers or/and IP addresses are hosted. One can obtain such informations over the whois database.

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#27 Added by Mjollren 1 decade ago [en] 

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Virg (atys)
I would hazard a guess at around 90% of the server did not know what was going on. There are forum posts by the rangers and I respect that however many, such as myself, have already been alienated from previous events.
That's the norm, 90% of the server is usually not aware of what's going on.. People have been alienated from fyros akenak events (weeks spent discussing uniform colors), people were alienated from zorai meetings (hours upon hours of discussion only very knowledgeable players could follow), etc.

People get bored of meetings full stop. This has been an issue since at least one year, at least in the English community.
Virg (atys)
Once again you associate rangers with RP. You make a huge mistake in thinking that a prerequisite of the ranger faction is that you have to RP. You make such bold claims- please tell me where you are getting your information from?
Maybe because there are no mechanics in place yet? You can "be" kami by answering some questions and donating some money, same for everything else except rangers.

As of now, there is literally no way for you to be part of the Ranger organization, or even a way to be a Ranger aspirant.. without Wilk Potskin naming you so. Have you asked the animator if you can join the Aspirant ranks simply by displaying a "kitin murderer" title, showing you've been helping with the kitin issue?

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#28 Added by Arfur 1 decade ago [en] 

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I saw the teaser in the forums (did not know it was a teaser) and tried to log in last week.  The only reason I didn't was because I was at work, and I thought it was a dodgy redirect website.  

If I had logged in at that time I would have had a 'head start' like Daomei.  At that time none of us knew what this web page was all about and I forgot about it until the 'Night of Stars'.  Only then did I see that the web page was part of it all.  

We all had the same opportunity to do this and practically no-one did.  This matters very little.  The 'Leaderboard' matters even less.  My name is on there now.  This is only because I clicked something I didn't understand and accidentally donated some C60.  So what.  Big deal.

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#29 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago [en] 

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well then me and i know some others tried logging on that website atleast 10times a day since it was posted but guess we wheren't so lucky to get in or we got a not synchronized error or go kill a yubo as error each time. So yeah it's strange some ppl could get in without any kind of errors when others couldn't. So stop saying the website was open for all that tried since it wasn't for us.

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#30 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en] 

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That's the norm, 90% of the server is usually not aware of what's going on.. People have been alienated from fyros akenak events (weeks spent discussing uniform colors), people were alienated from zorai meetings (hours upon hours of discussion only very knowledgeable players could follow), etc.
The mot recent fyros event had a huge turn out, just the same for all other races. However these rangers events only involve very few people.
Mjollren
As of now, there is literally no way for you to be part of the Ranger organization, or even a way to be a Ranger aspirant.. without Wilk Potskin naming you so. Have you asked the animator if you can join the Aspirant ranks simply by displaying a "kitin murderer" title, showing you've been helping with the kitin issue?

No quite simply for the alienation that has gone on in the rangers. I hoped this post would alert people to this and it would cause the rangers to open up to more than just RPers.
Arfur (atys)
I saw the teaser in the forums (did not know it was a teaser) and tried to log in last week. The only reason I didn't was because I was at work, and I thought it was a dodgy redirect website.

If I had logged in at that time I would have had a 'head start' like Daomei. At that time none of us knew what this web page was all about and I forgot about it until the 'Night of Stars'. Only then did I see that the web page was part of it all.
No you would have not had a head start. I tried like many other people to log in unsuccessfully. It would appear (correct me if im wrong Daomei) that Daomei found a way past the security or an area with no security. I can see why people would call you a hacker if this is the case. As in essence thats kind of what you did. Firstdo found an area with no security also- and he got banned for it.

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#31 Added by Salazar 1 decade ago [de] 

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At a rough guess dependant on my friends I would say about 60% of the player base didn't know it was even a thing until it was too late. As I have already stated before it was not announced or told to anyone outside the meetings to my knowledge. Your comment that people have to engage in RP is ludicrous. First and foremost I will repeat myself once again: At the time that the termite event was conceived there were many people out there who actively hunt and kill kitins. Many of these people were aspiring rangers but do not like the whole talking- roleplaying and as such didn't attend the meetings. These people were not given an opportunity. Only a select few who regularly attended meetings as far as I am aware.

Oh my, that bloody termite project is running for at least a year now, and the RP forum is plastered with contributions by various players regarding it one way or the other, namely Bittty, Daomei, Feylin, and Zhoi. The Trykers and Fyros were involved, giving their blessing, while the Zorai and Matis opposed the project. It was dragged through countless meetings of four player parliaments and every Ranger meeting since the (as it feels) beginning of time. True, those who neither attend any meeting and keep away from forum postings probably have never ever heard of it.

Virg
The more recent termite activity involved only 3 people at most. I would hazard a guess at around 90% of the server did not know what was going on. There are forum posts by the rangers and I respect that however many, such as myself, have already been alienated from previous events.

See above. I have no idea how many Rangers are actually involved in anything, having stepped out of every involvement with them quite some time ago. But from what I hear their meetings are far better attended than those of the nations. But no-one gets dragged to the hunt, so to say.

Virg
You do not see any fyros, tryker, zorai, matis etc events that are limited to just a few select people being able to activate them.

That is most likely true. Yet you see enough events where people complain afterwards that they didn't know about it.

Virg
Please look into the subject before making such claims. I was told by Daomei herself it was a mini game.

You did not say that you were told that by Daomei until now. As far as I'm concerned, I guess it uses all the technical aspects of a mini game. I never bothered to find out, but had a look at the termite mounds once or twice.

Virg
Once again you associate rangers with RP. You make a huge mistake in thinking that a prerequisite of the ranger faction is that you have to RP. You make such bold claims- please tell me where you are getting your information from?

I do associate aspects of the Rangers with RP, indeed - as I do aspects of the fractions, or of the nations, as strictly RP. Other aspects I regard as PvE. As far as I understand, only PvP ist strictly out of discussion with the Rangers. Call that a bold claim. I call it observation. ;)

Salazar
From what I heard, MegaCorp was mentioned in the Ryzom "bible", so those players who have actually read it - and there seem to be plenty - have obviously researched for it.
Virg
I would be interested to know where it is mentioned. If you could post a link that would be great thanks.

This is the first reference I could find while quickly looking through the forums: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/132433. I don't know if there were any references in the French forums, but on the German forums there is a quip by Zhoi, which in hindsight also could be understand as a reference to it.

Edited 3 times | Last edited by Salazar (1 decade ago) | Reason: Cleared up one detail. =)

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