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#39 Report | Quote[en] 

Not sure they stole it, as it looked like it belonged to them anyway.

And the engineers simply picked it up. There was no fight as they were neutral NPCs.

Even though several Kamists and probably some Marauders were vocally displeased that they couldn't try to stop them.

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#40 Report | Quote[en] 

Keldun (atys)
...it looked like it belonged to them anyway.

Exactly!! A Karavan plot - and why should they be protected? They plot against homins and plan our doom!

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Binarabi
This idea of "I'm offended". Well I've got news for you. I'm offended by a lot of things too. Where do I send my list? Life is offensive. You know what I mean? Just get in touch with your outer adult. (Bill Hicks)

#41 Report | Quote[en] 

I don't see why kamis would try to stop the karavan from taking the artifact -- it is undoubtely mechanical and foreign to our planet, let them get it and keep it as far from Atys as possible ;)

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#42 Report | Quote[de] 

Binarabi (atys)
Keldun (atys)
...it looked like it belonged to them anyway.

Exactly!! A Karavan plot - and why should they be protected? They plot against homins and plan our doom!

Then you should worry why no ruler, no ranger chief and neither Tryton, nor the Kami gave a damn ...

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#43 Report | Quote[en] 

Salazar (atys)

Then you should worry why no ruler, no ranger chief and neither Tryton, nor the Kami gave a damn ...

Tryton?? Was he here?

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Binarabi
This idea of "I'm offended". Well I've got news for you. I'm offended by a lot of things too. Where do I send my list? Life is offensive. You know what I mean? Just get in touch with your outer adult. (Bill Hicks)

#44 Report | Quote[en] 

No. As said - he didn't give a damn. Nor were Kamis there.

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#45 Report | Quote[en] 

Salazar (atys)
Binarabi (atys)
Keldun (atys)
...it looked like it belonged to them anyway.

Exactly!! A Karavan plot - and why should they be protected? They plot against homins and plan our doom!

Then you should worry why no ruler, no ranger chief and neither Tryton, nor the Kami gave a damn ...

Because event team wanted some name calling from kami's against kara and be rid of that  event line they started and 3days later posted we can't use ingame at all as fast as they could? And some kara picking up an aritfact while nobody could do something against it looked perfect. If they had done what ryzom says to be an dynamical mmo where ppl can influence the whole game then they had made those karavan attackable and let it run it's course and adapet to it. Pretty sure some kami would have helped kara there and vice versa (not every kami wanted it and probably some kara neither) and who knows mara could have ran of with it (or even worse some ranger to turn it into an termite farm).

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#46 Report | Quote[en] 

Salazar (atys)
No. As said - he didn't give a damn. Nor were Kamis there.
Hmm - I did not know you were Tryton's spokes homin ... makes me think maybe ... well, what it must be, to be able to speak for him.
As far as Kami go - do you speak of Ma' Duk his/her/itself?
Again, to know both so well, it does suprise me, mayhap a meeting could be arranged through yourself with Elias Tryton or Ma' Duk his/her/itself?

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Binarabi
This idea of "I'm offended". Well I've got news for you. I'm offended by a lot of things too. Where do I send my list? Life is offensive. You know what I mean? Just get in touch with your outer adult. (Bill Hicks)

#47 Report | Quote[en] 

Salazar (atys)
No. As said - he didn't give a damn. Nor were Kamis there.

Didn't give a damn? More Kami's gave C60 than the Kara did. The KINOs (Kami I Name Only) as I call them abandoned their Kami teachings and took on to aid the technological adbomination. True Kamis do give a damn, KINOs give C60.

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#48 Report | Quote[en] 

A neutral account of the happenings of the day, with lumios, has been posted.

http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/19696/1# 1

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#49 Report | Quote[en] 

Bitttymacod (atys)
A neutral account of the happenings of the day, with lumios, has been posted.

http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/19696/1# 1


Neutral Bah, Anyone who fails to report or ignores the the nefarious purpose of the Karavan, shows that are are no friend of the Kara and that they are aligned with the Karavan.

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Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the characters in this post/thread and any homins, living or dead, is a miracle.* The characters in this post/thread are fictitious. Any homin resembling them is better off dead**
*You Nazty Spy
**I'll Never Heil Again

#50 Report | Quote[en] 

Binarabi (atys)
A Karavan plot ... They plot against homins and plan our doom!

Hmm - I did not know you were Jena's spokeshomin ... makes me think maybe ... well, what it must be, to be able to speak with her and the Karavan.
Again, to know her so well, it does suprise me, mayhap a meeting could be arranged through yourself with Jena? =O

Edited: Removed personal insults
Tiximei - Game Master

Last edited by Tiximei (1 decade ago)

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Salazar Caradini
Filira Matia
Royal Historian
Member of the Royal Academy of Yrkanis
First Seraph of the Order of the Argo Navis

#51 Report | Quote[en] 

Dear Bina, you cannot judge the actions of the karavan as being evil. No one wanted the artifct fallen from the sky so it's normal that the karavan would have got it away.

The artifact has opened a lot of questions in the homin's mind and could not stay on ground with the risk homins could investigate more.

Obviously Kami didn't show at all, because they don't really care about hominkind but only care of their own protection. I'm sorry you think different.

Karavan, despite the ideas you have got about them, are closely linked with the hominkind and always protect homins. It's possible not everything is good and some of them can have some hidden reason to do, but not all of them. Actually i have never seen any karavan killing homins, in any way, contrary to what Kami do, if they think someone is doing something they don't want to Atys.

At the end, Kami and Karavan are both selfish, as they all need to survive in some way.
Homins should not rely too much on both of them, because homins need to survive too.

I hope what happened in Sandy Workshop will not end up raising hate between kamists and karavaneers, because, as homins, they should work together to discover the truth.

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Gilgameesh
Legion of Atys

#52 Report | Quote[en] 

Please observe the forum rules and discuss this topic without personal attacks and mud slinging. Next person doing this will have to break out the buckets and cleaning rags and suffer a day of cleaning the stables in Thesos!

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Tiximei
Senior Game Master
Ryzom Support Team

#53 Report | Quote[en] 

Gilgameesh (atys)

I hope what happened in Sandy Workshop will not end up raising hate between kamists and karavaneers, because, as homins, they should work together to discover the truth.

+1

We need less conspiracy theories and wild speculations about the karavan/kamis; this just distracts us from uniting to eradicate the true evil behind this event - the Matis/Ranger/Lumper Alliance!

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