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#1 Added by Rollocks 1 decade ago [en]

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Ryzom should have one week a month or perhaps just a weekend where PvP tags are mandatory.

Every homins PvP flag would automatically be turned on and everyone automatically have to engage or be subjected to being attacked as part of PvP. This would add spice to the game.

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#2 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago [en]

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+1 to see how homins cope, to see if it helps to add something to the game, and lore could be developedto explain it. Hopefully it would become a regular monthly or twice a month occurance

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#3 Added by Bitttymacod 1 decade ago [en]

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I am neither weak, nor frail. I simply do not wish to be involved in PvP. The guild I belong to does not wish to be involved in PvP. I have excellent roleplay and personal reasons not to engage in PvP. I do not wish to be excluded from this game for a day, much less a weekend.

In addition, there are *many* lower level homins who, even if they wish to learn PvP, will end up being ganked and find it not fun. Active PvP is pretty much endgame content except in mass formations.

If you want to declare a "PvP weekend" and encourage everyone you know (and everyone you don't) to tag up and play, then by all means do so. If it is voluntary, that is good. People participating might even find it fun and could drop out when it ceased to be fun. Those of us who don't want to participate could sit and watch and drink our stinga daiquiris and take side bets. Some of us might get a kick out of it.

I cannot see the analogy to spice, except for perhaps the "spice" being a ghost pepper. In response to that analogy, I quote many of my friends on the subject of "nuclear" chili and "buffalo wings":

Pain is not a flavour.

Sincerely,

Bittty

Edit: removed personal attacks
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#4 Added by Xtarsia 1 decade ago [en]

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Im up for this, if it was only 1 day, and as a one off at first.

As for bittys comments. You arent being forced to pvp by this, its entirly your choice to push your fames past 25/-25. A lot of lowbies wont have done this anyways ;)

I do agree having it for a whole weekend/week would be too much.

People arent always as blood thirsty As you might think. Some are though. :D

#5 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago [en]

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No, and no. Sandbox game, it's not about weakness or whatever trolling reasons you throw at people, it's about freedom of choice.

I put Other because the poll is silly.. but it means, No.

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#6 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago [en]

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Bitttymacod (atys)

If you want to declare a "PvP weekend" and encourage everyone you know (and everyone you don't) to tag up and play, then by all means do so. If it is voluntary, that is good. People participating might even find it fun and could drop out when it ceased to be fun. Those of us who don't want to participate could sit and watch and drink our stinga daiquiris and take side bets. Some of us might get a kick out of it.

What a great idea! +1

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#7 Added by Irfidel 1 decade ago [en]

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Thanks Bitty & Gkr for the excellent responses. I chose "other" to emphasize the bad choice of wording the poll.

#8 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago [en]

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Think the game is in danger of shrinking even further. Aris hardly ever pvp'd cept at op battles - and was small pop, Leanon was even smaller, Aniro had healthy pop and followed Lore and were tagged all the time
Has to be worth trialing?

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#9 Added by Gkr 1 decade ago [en]

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Binarabi (atys)

Think the game is in danger of shrinking even further. Aris hardly ever pvp'd cept at op battles - and was small pop, Leanon was even smaller, Aniro had healthy pop and followed Lore and were tagged all the time
Has to be worth trialing?

lol, and your point is?

You know how Aris was... everybody was friend with everybody just because, I was marauder on that server and i was told even from begining I'm not suppose to attack anyone, because we are all friends here.

And now you come and try to do what? deform reality?

I have never seen you tagged.. so you dont follow the trend, you played on a server nobody was doing any pvp... unless you had a wake up call.. but either way, preach it about it within your guild, start from there.. how about that?

Gkr

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#10 Added by Binarabi 1 decade ago [en]

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Agree Gkr :)

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#11 Added by Sorum 1 decade ago [en]

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such a stupid idear, sorry,

you want that all the smal chars or the non pvp guilds will not play in that week ? but they pay for month

#12 Added by Avvy 1 decade ago [en]

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Bad idea, but the sort of idea I'd expect from a PvPer.

Kind of reminds me of the dumb ideas they get on Eve-online forums where PvPers think everyone needs to be a target.

All what will happen is that it'll drive more people from the game. Problem with such ideas is that not all homins are equal, those characters that have been around for years could easily make mince meat out of younger characters.

In Eve-online what used to happen when a player corp got war declared, some people just didn't bother playing during the war dec, or would play an alt that wasn't in the corp. So forced global PvP will more than likely force some people out of the game, be it temporary (during the period) or permanently.

*Wonders what the next bad idea will be*

#13 Added by Sharleen 1 decade ago [en]

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Avvy@ i absolutely aggree with you

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#14 Added by Rollocks 1 decade ago [en]

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Bitttymacod (atys)

Rollocks, I can't tell whether you're serious or just trolling, but on the off-chance that you are serious: this would be an excellent way to drive participants away from the game.

Damn right, I'm serious. It is sad to see you what has become the typical player response, when someone disapproves of suggestion and they resort to name calling or suggesting the person who made it is a troll. I expected better from you Bittymacod.

No wonder why this game is dying.

This game needs something to spark it back to life.

Bitttymacod (atys)

I am neither weak, nor frail. I simply do not wish to be involved in PvP. The guild I belong to does not wish to be involved in PvP. I have excellent roleplay and personal reasons not to engage in PvP. I do not wish to be excluded from this game for a day, much less a weekend.

How would you be excluded from the game? My suggestion does not include locking players out. There are several safe zones that pacifist can gather, i.e. Kami TPs, Kara TPs and Marauder TPs.

Bitttymacod (atys)

In addition, there are *many* lower level homins who, even if they wish to learn PvP, will end up being ganked and find it not fun.

Really, what is this claim based on? Or did you just make it up and assume that it would accepted as true? How do you know what low level homes will find fun? Obviously what the game currently is offering is bringing in and keeping new players by the truckload.

Bitttymacod (atys)

Active PvP is pretty much endgame content except in mass formations.

If you do not do PvP, on do you base this claim? I know plenty of homins who have engaged in PvP from the very beginning, including in Silan.

Bitttymacod (atys)

If you want to declare a "PvP weekend" and encourage everyone you know (and everyone you don't) to tag up and play, then by all means do so. If it is voluntary, that is good. People participating might even find it fun and could drop out when it ceased to be fun. Those of us who don't want to participate could sit and watch and drink our stinga daiquiris and take side bets. Some of us might get a kick out of it.

While I'd like to see the PvP flags be mandatory for all, perhaps the GM's could incentivize activating the PvP flag by awarding players who permanently turn on the PvP flag with special gear and titles.

Gkr (atys)

No, and no. Sandbox game, it's not about weakness or whatever trolling reasons you throw at people, it's about freedom of choice.

I put Other because the poll is silly.. but it means, No.

Gkr, it is sad to see you making the typical Ryzom response, simply because you disapprove of a suggestion and you resort suggesting person who made it is a troll. No wonder why this game is dying.

Sorum (atys)

such a stupid idear, sorry,

Sorum, it is sad to see you making the typical Ryzom response, simply because you disapprove of a suggestion and you resort suggesting person who made it is stupid. No wonder why this game is dying.

Avvy (atys)

Bad idea, but the sort of idea I'd expect from a PvPer.

Kind of reminds me of the dumb ideas they get on Eve-online forums where PvPers think everyone needs to be a target.

Avvy, it is sad to see you making the typical Ryzom response, simply because you disapprove of a suggestion it is dumb. No wonder why this game is dying.

Avvy (atys)

All what will happen is that it'll drive more people from the game. Problem with such ideas is that not all homins are equal, those characters that have been around for years could easily make mince meat out of younger characters.

Drive players from the game? They are already leaving. Just because a player is stronger than another does not mean that another player is going kill him just because he is tagged. I'm sure you that even a weak and frail player such as you can make mincemeat out of a yubo, yet I doubt you spend your time annihilating them.

Avvy (atys)

*Wonders what the next bad idea will be*

It will be whatever suggestion with which you disagree.

Sharleen (atys)

Avvy@ i absolutely aggree with you

Sharleen my comments to Avvy apply equally to you.

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#15 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

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Sad to see some people revert to name calling and believe others are trolling. Also how easily they strike down others opinions yet offer no ideas themselves to aid the game. A forced PvP week would certainly be interesting however due to the level differences and the fact people are so unwilling to PvP their would be (and certainly seems to be such an outcry).

To modify the idea into something managable I would quite like if more zones were made PvP zones at certain times. For example all PR zones were PvP during night time, or perhaps something longer like a season or a week.

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