This game is doomed. - English - Ryzom Community Forum

#24 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

Salyn (atys)

So much entitlement running in the forums lately. "Gee, I'm English, I need every damn piece of information to be translated in MY language, even though said information is not relevant to me in any shape or form, hurr. I still need to be told what's it about, because if I don't know then it's end of the world."

For some funny reason, I don't see complaints from German, Spanish or Russian players, so it's a definitely an English problem ;)

Not to mention "How dare French players never invite ME and put in extra work for ME to translate their event?". Oh, and while I'm at it, more entitlement, "How dare roleplayers actually roleplay and make an event where only certain factions are allowed? Without ME? No way.". You know, all the nonsensical babble that happened in the forum regarding the matis kitin discusison.

More caps or larger fonts won't solve your entitlement problems. Good day.

look another player that's not reading what i'm saying, imagine that.

full translations for all languages, for all chat and npc's and everything, once agian, someone not reading again, shame there's not a way to physically slap someone for not reading the basic idea.

translation built into the game for all languages and players (perhaps i should try to draw it with crayons for those that can't understand the adult statement about all in-game CHAT needs translation built in, as well as NPC's that everyone can see and use)

no more replies to the foolish or the simple minded that can't comprehend the basic idea i'm trying to promote here.

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#25 Added by Feylin 1 decade ago Report | Quote [fr]

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Talkirc (atys)

... the UI NEEDS BUILT IN TRANSLATION FOR ALL BASED ON THE UI SELECTED LANGUAGE, THAT WAY I CAN WRITE IN ENGLISH AND A FRENCH PLAYER CAN READ WHAT I SAID AT THE SAME TIME ON HIS OWN CLIENT. (but saddly our game just doesn't have the funds for that, so we're all out of luck.)....

Find some game where this kind of things is implemented .... Ah, this doesn't exist, maybe ? There must be a good reason for that.
You definitely can't demand something from the actual Ryzom that no other game editor, with obviously more potential, don't ever tried to do. As far as i know, international servers just use english as language and don't care about anything else. client may be translated, but there is absolutely nothing that translate discussions from player of a specific language to language of another player.

Ryzom has already automatically translated emotes, and a few translated interaction texts (check your key settings) .... but you can't have a roleplay session with this.

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#26 Added by Salyn 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Can you recall any event or communication that was *meant* for English players too, but didn't get translated? I can't. Every assembly and event where English players were expected, due notice was given beforehand in English.

I don't play much so I might've missed something. So far though, reads as if panicking over literally nothing. The event "Ein bodoc fur Davae" didn't get much attention, a few players asked what's it about, they were told the German community of Davae is doing an event, all good. And now suddenly we're huffing and puffing because the puppet of Yumeroh might've excluded us? Sigh.

#27 Added by Suboxide 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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actually about the emotes I heard today that some emotes are bad translated not sure it's rtight but the '/silly' one in english that tells you are silly would be a big insult in french.

it's not about exclusing ppl (btw i'm a coockie and against exclusing ppl) but about if you push an npc in somebody's face then atleast let em know why you doing it.

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#28 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago Report | Quote [ru]

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odd, i was told that WoW does exactly what i am saying, sure ryzom doesn't have 500k active players at any one time, but from what i'm told (key word is told) it does just that.

though i'm willing to admit i can be wrong.

in the end the yarmoth (or however you spell it) npc is only in one language, there should be one line at the top in each major language, that's not asking too much.

but like another thread this is where i stop speaking because the over-all idea or point is not going anywhere at this point, now we're just going on about this or that.

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Remickla (atys)

Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#29 Added by Bitttymacod 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Talkirc -- Shouting in extra large type doesn't make your words any more effective. Really.

What you ask is simply NOT possible. Period. Ryzom doesn't have the kind of staff to do that, even if it could be built into an engine that is ten years old or more.

In addition, the use of abbreviations, slang, non-grammatical constructions, archaic constructions (of which I am on occasion guilty) and the existence of typographical errors would render any automatic translation worse than the tower of Babel. rly.

And if WoW is doing simultaneous translations it's the biggest secret in the internet. :)

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#30 Added by Neela 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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Read the title and then the first post and then didnt bother reading the rest. THis game is doomed? yeah right, it's the game ya can't kill!

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Remickla (atys)

Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.

#31 Added by Talkirc 1 decade ago Report | Quote [en]

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i agree neela, "doomed" might be a little too strong a word, since ryzom always seams to survive even the worst of things.

i was recently corrected about WoW, for that i'm sorry, turns out the person that said there's translations in game didn't tell me it's much like the app that Casy made for ryzom, so on that i was wrong, and after a little further digging, that's about all there are is things that players that play the games have made. so i'm all twisted up on that note.

i'm sorry about that part, and on the thread i'm tossing in the towel, it's one issue we'll not likely see fixed to make everyone happy, because it's impossible to make everyone happy on this note.

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Remickla (atys)

Other games - they give you a cookie whether you succeed or not, in fact you don't even have to participate. Ryzom takes your cookie, eats it in front of you, and slaps you 2 or 3 times for bringing a cookie in the first place.