Ryzom points system - IDEAS FOR RYZOM

#18 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

So its written in the lore that the leader holds that mace? No. It doesn't. Well done for making that up off the top of your head. *applauds*

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#19 Added by Zilon 1 decade ago [en]

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thanks to you for making me laugh, you're so fun

#20 Added by Eruv 1 decade ago [en]

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let the record show i tried to prevent this nosedive :P

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#21 Added by Ingfarah 1 decade ago [en]

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+1 Zilon; -1 Firstdo; -1 Virg; +1 Icus; +1 Eruv.

#22 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

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Another person who resents change. "Don't change a winning formula" is a great quote to bring up. Ryzom isn't winning much. Change is needed.

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#23 Added by Daomei 1 decade ago [en]

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I tend to somewhat agree to both Virg and Icus. To Icus insofar as the very weapon the leaders wear should be and remain unique as the leaders are. To Virg insofar as a strong incentive to assume citizenship and excel in it, even as a lower level player or mere roleplayer, would be no bad idea. Still, citizenship is not so highly respected by many. The skin of the weapon might be similar to that of the leaders, only smaller e.g. not to spoil their significance.

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#24 Added by Ingfarah 1 decade ago [en]

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The -1 for Virg is not right; in fact; my problem lays with the nation leader's weapons losing their significatnce.

There are others skins that exist, that are not "present" in the game. As Icus said, you can see them in the client. But hey... don't tell me those guys got special weapons for their fame. Don't tell me you're as famous as a king, emperor or whatever, and that you deserve to be awarded the same weapon... I'm sure you can name the queen of England, but I doubt you can put on a name on England's most decorated soldier. And even if Excalibur has never existed, looking back through history, the weapons worn by kings usually were emblematic of their functions.

You can argue it's a fantasy game and could be different; I tell you it should be rooted in a bit of logic. Just pic up a different skin and I'll agree with the essence of your comment.

#25 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

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I guess I haven't seen Mabreka's fame tab. I assumed he had 100 fame max just like everyone else. Also in terms of IG fame not many people roleplay or can name the main leaders so I would say some, if not quite a lot of players are more famous than the leaders.

These weapons by the leaders aren't some weapons that have been handed down generation to generation and as proof of this emporer dexton actually had a sword not a burning axe. Besides even if people were able to get the same weapons the leaders still have their unique armour and decorations.

I would be happy with another skin I guess. There are just so many unobtainable skins within the game that the playerbase can't obain its frustrating.

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#26 Added by Icus 1 decade ago [en]

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Virg (atys)

These weapons by the leaders aren't some weapons that have been handed down generation to generation and as proof of this emporer dexton actually had a sword not a burning axe.

This is why the specific skin for the sharükos is the Imperial Sword, not the Imperial Axe :) which, of course, has been given to Lykos after Dexton's death, because he is the sharükos now.

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#27 Added by Ingfarah 1 decade ago [en]

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+1 Virg, then;)

I'd like to see people having those other weapon skins that from the tribes.

#28 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

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Where can all these game skins be viewed again? thanks

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#29 Added by Mjollren 1 decade ago [en]

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It's not only Mabreka's fame, it's his position in a hierarchy. This is even more poignant in a supposedly primitive society as those on Atys are: the rulers are distanced from the population. This is how humans have always worked, and homins on Atys have some very interesting semblance to humans, neh?

You as a simple citizen, no matter how esteemed/ardent/illuminated etc you are, you can't have the same ensigns as the rulers. Unless you are granted such privilege specifically by someone higher up in the hierarchy, for specific deeds done. The difference in concept is that anyone can get high fame, if they put in enough work; but recognition and appointment have to be specific to your person.

I think a set of armor with good boosts and maybe the nation symbol embroided on each piece would be sufficient reward.

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#30 Added by Indobi 1 decade ago [en]

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I would rather not see Mabreka's mace in the hands of anybody who is not Mabreka. Same for the other civ leader weapons. I might have a different opinion about tribal weapon skins but I am unfamiliar with those.

#31 Added by Virg 1 decade ago [en]

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Mjollren (atys)

you can't have the same ensigns as the rulers. Unless you are granted such privilege specifically by someone higher up in the hierarchy, for specific deeds done.

Specific deeds done for the nation are rewarded with fame and civilisation points. Therefore when you have enough of these you could be granted the privilege of purchusing the same ensings as the rulers. Maybe a ceremony could be put in place where the leaders/officials reward weapons instead of the faction merchant.

Everyone seems to get really hung up on "stealing" the leaders weapons that they seem to be missing the concept of the idea- which is more rewards and ways of showing off your acomplishments for your nation.

Why try and develop tribal weapons when there is still plenty of content than can (and needs imo) to be added to the current organisations and civs. This sort of thinking is what leads to diversity that severly lacks content.

Mj I agree with adding armour too, but im taking baby steps :P

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#32 Added by Mjollren 1 decade ago [en]

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What I'm trying is to make a distinction between an open club and a closed-door club. Current fame mechanics allow even level 1 alts to have fame 100 with a certain nation. Literally, *anyone* can have highest fame with a nation in a few days' work. This is an open club.

Virg (atys)

Specific deeds done for the nation are rewarded with fame and civilisation points.

No. Unspecific deeds are awarded with faction points - such as running missions for NPCs, or feeding the transporters. Specific things make you part of a closed club - heroic fighting during an event, etc.

I agree that the rewards for high fame should be more diverse, hence my suggestion of specific armor. I'm ok with the idea of racial weapons too. It's just the proposal to copy the looks of rulers and other people that are in a form leaders, that I'm partially opposed to - it's both lazy and uncreative.

It's bad enough that people get to wield pompous titles like "Defender of the Empire", when all they did was feed the transporters. Maybe it's just me, but if I get a weapon similar to Mabreka's, it better be because I worked my ass off and put in a lot of directed effort; running missions doesn't really fit, imho.

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