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#1 [en] 

I just attended the organization Chanchey: beautiful band of players and bots that fall AEN in 10 minutes.
This approach destroys the foundation of the game and caused a leak of several guilds, and after a lot of Atys with homin, there powerless to desertification of the latter.
It seems that the pain is identified by the name of greed or covetousness: obtaining a special armor at all costs, sacrificing the game logic in the name of profit. I see this as like the idea of ​​drilling larvae to limit kitinière (but it GMs repress) cheating.
I therefore propose that maraud armor and exceptional weapons are distrubuted to this  players, to abandon this approach in order to give them more time to play in the background of the game
This may allow a return to more conventional players who live but what makes the specificity of Ryzom: the RP.

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#2 [en] 

The accusation has no merit.

The idea is...strange to say the least. And it kind of contradicts the poster's second sentence.

I'd say: Don't feed the troll.

#3 [en] 

Nope. And nope. Oh, and nope. And what irfidel said, no feeding trolls. And nope.

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#4 [en] 

The fact that some people have and use alts in game is obvious and known to all. Personally I can't say whether they're prevalent during NPC fights or present in any relevant number, it's kinda hard to discern especially if you're fighting yourself. And aside from obvious bot behaviour (only moving after its "master"), people sometimes behave like bots inadvertedly (stop casting due to phones ringing or personal conversations, etc. Not everyone steps in an isolated bubble once they log in).

This accusation has been brought many times already, and the GM response has always been: alts are tacitly accepted as long as you're not using software to control them. If you have a problem with people using alts, start there. The idea to give away NPC armor to those who you perceive as "cheaters" is sort of ridiculous.

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#5 [en] 

Please don't bring the discussion on a new, dirty level. Enough damage has been done to the community already.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Chanchey (1 decade ago)

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#6 [en] 

As Yricl is raising his defamations and lies also here, I feel compelled to respond.

Among the roughly 50 or so participants of the fight against the marauder NPC bosses, of whom I know about 75-80%, I saw exactly one player with an alt, namely me, Daomei, avec Diwu. There were no bots, which would be a violation of the rules of the game. I complained at the CSR for the defamation Yricl already uttered during the battle he was spying upon. He apologized against a CSR that he had expressed himself unclearly but is spouting his lies and insults again in the forums, in the french forum as well as here.

And I want to underline that Diwu is no "bot", even not in a symbolic sense as a slave or else subordinate and insignificant character in the game, she has her own biography and history, is participating in roleplay as well as in training and leveling holding several master levels in forage, combat, and magic.

We already had discussions where the CSR put certain limits on the usage of alts, and playing with one alt, much more a subbed one, is perfectly within.

I think that it is of crucial importance that the three former communities maintain and intensify their contacts and their joint gameplay, and that every side strives to learn and understand about the other. In particular, I consider it important to communicate the conflicts about different styles of roleplay and looking for ways to integrate them without alienating the one or the other group of players.

Defamation is clearly no way into that direction.

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#7 [en] 

I nabbed this from here: http://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/16956/14 #14

I feel this is a good translation so I'm quoting with the "google translate" version
Kemen(atys)

Hello, Again yet another reminder about Ryzom. This is a game and, as such, each has the right to play in their own way. Each type of player in his place on Atys from the moment or player who respects the rules, I remind you, accepted at each connection and available here . If you notice any violation of these rules you will need to contact the Support Ticket directly involved or by email at support@ryzom.fr and not throwing accusations in game or on the forums. All applications are processed without exceptions. It goes without saying that your application must be supported by facts and evidence and not merely a "hearsay." the BOTS (using third-party software) are prohibited. Connecting multiple accounts at once has never been banned and whatever the server (Aniro, Arispotle, Leanon Cho, Atys). If a player wishes to connect several X due accounts involved and it plays itself these characters is his right as a player. The "debate" (if we can call it that) has was launched and repeatedly yielded no solution simply because there is no real problem. Just be aware that Ryzom is a game and there is not a single way to play. SECTION " Ideas For Ryzom "is open to all and we read the entire forum. Each idea is read / studied. You can make suggestions and give your opinion on the condition that you comply with the terms of the other without trying to descend steeply into a public lynching by removing his idea because it is not a way play among many others. Any other matter which will be open in the future to boost non-constructive criticism and having merely intended to impose will be moderate, closed or deleted without notice.

This topic was blocked, and hopefully will be here too, the reply is very clear and strong.

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#8 [en] 

Topic moved since it does not belong in the Ideas for Ryzom section of the forum. Locking the thread in addition.

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