IDEAS FOR RYZOM

Ryzom is full of hoarders. Bulk upgrades in apartments would encourage and facilitate this even more and I for one do not want to make it easier for these people.

Hoarders gain their mats in many different ways- camping is one of these ways. Every second a haorder has to spend switching accounts to store away mats is a second they (hopefully) won't be camping.

I mean, I get what your saying about crafting Talk, but would it really be any different for you to dig less mats, craft, dig again, craft? You might want this upgrade for ease of crafting but some others will just exploit its ease to hoard - and I've just read through the previous posts by Fyrosfreddy and couldn't agree more!

In my opinion, there will never be enough space - the more people have the more they will want, Ryzom is brilliant at creating a balance with regards to many things and storage is something I believe to be balanced (and I'm talking from the perspective of having at least 2 - usually 3 packers free for launcher).

still want this. so they switch accounts, they're not wasting a single second, that's what they have army's for, lolx.

i want the OPTION, and a good dapper sink that has a permanent reward to show for the effort.

i refute your claims about hoarders, we'll have them either way, there is no excuse for this, it's always going to be, that's a fact.

I want to spend 3 months digging all the mat's i need for a massive craft grind, one that i can get 50 level's without leaving (other then to sell the full bag's of grind crafted items to the merchants).

i want to fill it with grind mat's, item's i have that i want to keep because of msg's friends wrote on it, more so for the one's that don't play anymore.

not only that but everything in ryzom will respawns, so it's not there's a finite amount of anything in atys.

i want my apt with 1,000,000 bulk please. then i won't need to keep filling f2p alt's and their mounts with keepsakes.

my thoughts to all the nay sayers, when i get what i want i'll stop, until then i'll keep bringing this back up to keep it alive and i'll keep defending it until the server goes down, there's no reason you can argue with me that this is unreasonable as an option.

and once again, look at the poll, over 70% want this upgrade, that's more then 2/3's of the ppl that voted.

i hear a call for bulk upgrades in personal storage systems again.... seams that idea is already here.... and a few other places as well, check the old forums for things like this...

ok, due to recent things happening in game i've taken the time to hit this forum again with clear reasons

limited storage options have lead to other methods being used, and some of those methods are under fire for being "bugged" for over 9 years, after 9 years, it's very hard to call it a bug, bug's get fixed, features are not fixed because they aren't broken.

i'm posting today here to help promote the bulk upgrade idea once again, because based on recent actions it's only again proving that larger storage options are needed.

some people want to say it's only going to promote hoarding, regardless of this upgrade option hoarding will always be a possibility.

here's a couple things that would be helpful:
less alt's thus less server load from repeated log-in and log-out.
less individual database files for the server to keep track of and save

many players have put in alot of work on subb'ed alts, they're not likely to do away with them simply because of this upgrade, i know i would not.

other games have given this option to the player base, some use in-game money to get the upgrade, others have charged a one time cash fee, but in both cases it was used only by a portion of the game's player base, and they also were able to promote something that many other games did not offer.

it's very clear that storage is an issue with the player base, some claim it's fine the way it is, and for those players the option would not be used; for others it's not fine the way it is and they would be happy to have an option to improve things in their case.

the option doesn't have to be used by those that are happy with the current status-quo, but would be very welcomed by those that are not happy with the status-quo.

this would also reduce the use of merchant based storage workarounds, which i'm sure keeping that database smaller would improve the server load (the merchant lists are kept loaded and running on the server every day 24 hours a day, where as the player's apt only is active while the player is online in game, with a guild hall it would be only if there's at least one member of that guild online.)

i'll stop here for bit and think and dwell on this for more time while i wait to see if we get what we're asking for... i've vowed to keep this alive untill it's given, after two years it should be clear that i mean to keep my word :)

ok so here's a thought to go along with this, could be options to give the upgrade path

allow a player to buy one apt in each land, the inventory should be linked (up to 8k bulk)

allow a player to buy one apt in each city of a land, the inventory should be linked (total of 10k bulk)

allow a player to buy 5 (five) apt's in EACH land, all linked together through-out (up to 40k total)


each of these options would require you buy one in the capital of each land.
these are some valid options, it's not too insane for these numbers, i think this would be valid, the cost is there to help curb usage.

wanted to bump this thread because now everyone can vote on the poll, not just the english reading and speaking players.

i promiced to do this in the past and now here it is, links to posts related to bulk upgrade request of the past.  (really starting to feel ignored by the dev's about this much requested feature)

old forum link (player wish list)

old forum link (this one also has a poll with over 70% support of upgrades, sound familiar?)

old forum link (player speaks about buying extar apt bulk)

i could find several more on the old forums, but thought that this was a good start.  there are several on new forums, but for the last two years my two have been the active ones.  (not sure on the non-english forums, as the results were limited to english; if there are similar thread in other languages, i would love to have links posted here by anyone willing.)

it's very clear that bulk and slot's are importiant to a large number of the player base, i'm not the only one.  i'm true to my word that: I WILL NOT GIVE UP ON THIS PATH BECAUSE IT IS A VALID REQUEST!! (nay say all you want, it's clear that more of us want it then are against it, even historically proven with the old forum's poll)

ya know, this shouldn't be that hard to do, based on some reliable sources i've spoken with, it's not something that would take much work or effort to really offer us.  (when i have 1m bulk and 50k slot's in my apt i'll shut up about this, till then, the talk will not give up.)

+1637329947 I agree with more bulk fully

Talk, you would think that after this many years that the "answer" of the dev / event / whatever team would be crystal clear: We aren't going to get it. No point in further spam .

well then, i can sure say that customer satisfaction really isn't that big a deal to the company. regardless i won't stop trying until the server goes down for good. i also like to look at the majority of people that think positive, and focus less on the negative minority involved (because they don't have to use it).

also, quitters never get anything, but those that refuse to give in or give up may one day persevere.

That was meant to imply that perhaps you should ask for something else good rather than concentrating on something that while popular may have negative game balance issues that cause it to be rejected. For instance people have been asking for their fires back for some time and it now appears that they will be getting them soon.

which is likewise something that wasn't given up on....

due to the number of recent post i want the information to the one that mattered quoted below to ensure it's seen by those that matter.

bittty, i really must laugh at the whole "game balance" excuse, how in the blue blazes will giving more storage unbalance the game?? i guess me having 100 alt f2p accounts for storage of this or that would be better on the server? 100's of extra databases to waste space.... i'll not bother, but if your not in favor, or a dev, why are you still knocking this idea, are you afraid that we might get it? why more often then not are you negative about ideas that are optional content and could in no way harm everyday gameplay of anyone?
what do you know that we don't, other then what we really want doesn't matter and we're paying just to be ignored for years... yet another reason the population of the game is going down, because we're always given the shaft, and if that's not enough, then here you are knocking those of us that keep trying to ask for things.

But it wasn't spammed either.

Well, I know that I am now, after two years, getting a few bits of OP mats. I suspect if GH's had tons more storage, I wouldn't.

The point of limited GH/apt storage is to encourage people to *think* about what they really need to keep. At some point the alt storage becomes more trouble than it's worth and so good (but not mission-critical to the guild in question) mats come onto the market, either for sale or for trade. If I were a dev (and I am not), I would regard this as a *good* thing, but I wouldn't go about advertising the fact either, if only because of the tendency of players everywhere to work to the frustration of the plans of devs.

So, from my selfish point of view I am in favor of my getting good stuff. In terms of other players who are not part of powerful guilds getting good stuff, I'm in favor of that also. I fight with the question of allocation of good stuff to GH storage or not all the time as an HO of Phaedrea's Tears. I'd love to have just a little extra storage. However, it is good for me to have to make choices as well.

The dev / event / support teams (to judge by some other posts) are even fewer than I thought. If one has to communicate in 3 > 5 languages and make it come out the same in all of them in terms of "official pronouncements", it's going to take a long time to generate those pronouncements and they are going to be relatively few and far between.